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Old June 20th, 2006, 08:18 AM   #121
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i would still love to see the twin towers be rebuilt. The chances are small but it looks like the chances of the freedom tower being built are getting smaller by the day.


So you can explain the crane at the site and all those articles saying 'Freedom Tower Under Construction' how...?
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Old June 20th, 2006, 09:29 AM   #122
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Old June 20th, 2006, 10:54 AM   #123
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lets hope the freedom tower does get above street level
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Old June 21st, 2006, 05:09 AM   #124
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So you can explain the crane at the site and all those articles saying 'Freedom Tower Under Construction' how...?
That crane is for taking about the basement that is there, and you can notice that it's not a kangaroo crane, which is used for constructing skyscrapers. That article that I posted from the NY Times has been known for drawing speculations on if it really will be built or not. For the next three months we will not know what the PA's final answer will be until then.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 05:21 AM   #125
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So there is the possibility that they will unveil a total new Ft design again?????
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Old June 21st, 2006, 10:51 AM   #126
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this is getting stupid! i wish they would just build the damn thing
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 02:59 AM   #127
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this is getting stupid! i wish they would just build the damn thing
Yes of course it is stupid!!!!!!!But its a pity that they plan for about 4 years and that ugly result comes out.N.Y dont build that FT build a more spectacular one and a HIGHER ONE!!!!!!This one just looks like the architects were too lazy to design a brilliant gloryios new icon for N.Y!!!!!!!!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:15 AM   #128
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there should just be one massive poll where people vote for either freedom tower or new twin towers.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:35 AM   #129
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there should just be one massive poll where people vote for either freedom tower or new twin towers.
Thats a damm good idea.I cant believe that new yorkers and the victims family members are glad to see that thing going up.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:46 AM   #130
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i don't think most New Yorkers want the freedom tower
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:48 AM   #131
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The Freedom Tower will make ane extrodanary augment to the cities much needed skyline
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:54 AM   #132
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im one who does.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 05:07 AM   #133
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But why they dont build it more spectacular.Libeskinds ideas were good, Fosters twin tower concept was brilliant but NO!!!Silverstein let Childs to make a proposal and what comes out SHIT.Commerce architecture made by David Childs what else?And with a height of nearly 420m to roof only 69 floors????▀Please.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 06:04 AM   #134
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why don't they just make 2 freedom towers?
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 06:08 AM   #135
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why don't they just make 2 freedom towers?
that's a good idea.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 08:25 AM   #136
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But why they dont build it more spectacular.Libeskinds ideas were good, Fosters twin tower concept was brilliant but NO!!!Silverstein let Childs to make a proposal and what comes out SHIT.Commerce architecture made by David Childs what else?And with a height of nearly 420m to roof only 69 floors????▀Please.

82 floors, 69 office on top of 6 mechanical floors with another 7 multi purpose floors above.


Highest office- Foor 75 ~ 1140 feet (347m)

Highest Floors- 82~ 1320 feet (402m)


Some other good news is that the buildings official name is still 1 WTC, Freedom Tower is mainly just a media hype. (A really bad one)
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 11:23 AM   #137
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There are numerous factors that play a role in the development of the new WTC besides how 'cool' and 'spectacular' the Freedom Tower looks. There are specs, regulations and security guidelines that must be followed to build, especially in New York City. Most important of all is the market for real estate in Lower Manhattan. The amount of inhabitable floors and square footage per floor for any office building are closely studied and optimized for the trends and predictions of the market. Twin Towers II? How easy do you think it'll be for Silverstein to sell office lots on a resurrected set of the twin towers? Would you want to work there? On the floors where the airliner hit? I don't think so. These people aren't idiots. They know what they're doing. They're professionals. There are reasons why the redevelopment plan looks the way it does.

As for Child's FT design... I think it blends in perfectly with the neighboring structures with its simplicity and symmetry. For the height freaks out there, how retarded would a 2000 footer look in lower manhattan? It just wouldn't blend in. Someone should make a render of that to show how impractical and ridiculous a 2000ft office buliding would look in that area.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:28 PM   #138
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good post. Hopefully that will shut up some of these lame naysayers
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:51 PM   #139
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that two tower shit isnt gonna happen mex. im not against it, but ive accepted it. the renders ive seen on post #1 i thought were awesome. take a look. im glad to see no one tower will look the same as well. foster, the guy who designed hearst, is designing one of them. now you know thats gonna be a sight to see.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 08:00 PM   #140
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The tower will look gorgeous I think. The surropunding towers aren't as spectacular and a redesign is the only option for them... I dont understand why people don't like the tower.
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