Gwadar

[swerveut]

Originally Posted by Khanrak

Yea the plan is to move it, but its bigger than a village. The whole city seems to be slated for destruction so that an amusement park, boat club, revolving restaurant, and a few parks can be put in its place (according to the masterplan). I don't think thats a very wise move at all. What will you tell the residents? "Please leave your ancestral homes so that we can build an amusement park and revolving restaurant here?" If the gov't is planning on buying all these people's houses, then that's a waste of money too because there is so much unused land in the area.

Well first off, I dont think that area is demarcated for amusement parks etc. The whole neck of the peninsula is much too small, the only use I think of that land is for port related infrastructure and facilities such as warehouses, railway sheds etc. Maybe there would be space for a marina club or a boat club. But seeing from Karachi's example, it should be a priority for the GDA to relocate the residents of the old town since the settlements of Kiamari in Karachi contributed to a big logistical and development nightmare because of their nearness to the port.

Also, these are hardly ancestral homes. These are pretty much just hutments and feeble looking houses that have been built up by the local fisherfolk. I think it would be even better for them if the government gives them new land to make a home in thats close to the sea and has all infrastructural facilites like straight streets, electricity, sewage and water connections, gas, etc. They only stand to gain from it (unless the govt. screws them over).

After seeing the resistance faced by the Israelis in Gaza when they tried to kick the settlers out, I don't think it will be an easy task at all (nor a smart one at that) to kick out some 20,000 residents who almost surely don't want to move and will resist.

Please dont compare this to the issue of Israel and Palestine. These are two totally different issues in a completely different context. Gwadar's relocation is for urban redevelopment rather than for stealing and grabbing for nationalistic agendas. Please be responsible with what you say.

[Khanrak]

CNtower, I totally agree with you. It would be nice to renovate some nicer buildings and maybe make some traditional Baluchi style buildings to fill in the gaps. That way it would atleast look like an old town... with a few modern additions lol. I think destroying existing towns is a terrible thing to do, they should be preserved and improved, not torn down and rebuilt elsewhere (except in unavoidable circumstances like building a dam where its just impossible to save the town).

Well first off, I dont think that area is demarcated for amusement parks etc. The whole neck of the peninsula is much too small, the only use I think of that land is for port related infrastructure and facilities such as warehouses, railway sheds etc. Maybe there would be space for a marina club or a boat club. But seeing from Karachi's example, it should be a priority for the GDA to relocate the residents of the old town since the settlements of Kiamari in Karachi contributed to a big logistical and development nightmare because of their nearness to the port.

According to the Masterplan I'm right. Check out what's planned on the neck of land where Gwadar sits. Looks like a bunch of a parks and some roads. The area demarcated for Port usage seems to be a very thin strip of beach.


Also, these are hardly ancestral homes. These are pretty much just hutments and feeble looking houses that have been built up by the local fisherfolk.

A home is a home, even if it belongs to a poor man. Especially when generations of people have lived in the area. I'm not saying the house is their ancestral home, I'm saying the area is. Just like your ancestral home may be Peshawar, even if you don't live there.



I think it would be even better for them if the government gives them new land to make a home in thats close to the sea and has all infrastructural facilites like straight streets, electricity, sewage and water connections, gas, etc. They only stand to gain from it (unless the govt. screws them over).

This would be fine if the people want to do it, but i have a feeling people will resist fiercely.


Please dont compare this to the issue of Israel and Palestine. These are two totally different issues in a completely different context. Gwadar's relocation is for urban redevelopment rather than for stealing and grabbing for nationalistic agendas. Please be responsible with what you say

Please be careful with what you accuse people of saying because you absolutely missed my point and misread what I wrote. The Arab-Israeli conflict is a sensitive issue for me, and I wouldn't carelessly mention it unless it was a useful example. I said when the Israelis kicked out the settlers(Not the Palestinians) from their homes, they faced fierce resistance (settlers are Israelis). The Israelis didnt kick out Israeli settlers to steal and grab their land for their nationalist agendas, I can assure you of that. Regardless of context, people resist when they're being kicked out of their homes, right?

Furthermore, I think Balochi nationalists would see this as a landgrab, don't you? Whether or not its the truth, perceptions seem to matter more than truth these days.

[cntower]

Any idea on when this airport will be fully functional? I heard that this will be the first airport in Pakistan to be able to handle the new A380 is that true?

[Khanrak]

I presume 2-3 years from the initiation of construction... the groundbreaking date is the real variable

[KB]

singhar housing scheme

[KB]

princess of good hope



pishukan island

[KB]

Zaver pearl continental hotel

[FK]

That Singhar Housing scheme looks nice, what a location!

But I heard there was some sort of a fraud case against it

[KB]

monument circle


main gate to port

[KB]

[KB]

Originally Posted by FahadKhan

That Singhar Housing scheme looks nice, what a location!

But I heard there was some sort of a fraud case against it

I don't know specifically, but yeah some of them hadn't obtained their NOC but were still advertising.

[FK]

Originally Posted by kbboy

monument circle


main gate to port

The lights seem to be operated by solar energy!

[KB]

yeah... good thinking i would say. There's hardly any rain and plenty of sunshine in gwadar.

[FK]

Its certainly worth visiting

[Plasma.]

What a city this is going to turn out to be! Just love the shape of it, it has beaches on three sides. I can just imagine a sky line along it.

Nice picture.

[Intoxication]

Originally Posted by kbboy

singhar housing scheme

Seems like paradise! I wanna go. Plus none of my relatives would be there!

Thanks KB for the GORGEOUS pics!

[FK]

That object in the middle seems to be a plot that's been brick walled, seems like a huge plot?

[KB]

Gwadar beach

[KB]

Gwadar by night


PC Gwadar


Room at PC gwadar

[FK]

Originally Posted by kbboy

Gwadar beach

Those beaches have so many beaches!