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Old June 13th, 2006, 07:55 AM   #1
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russia to torn down rossiya hotel

Moscow okay plan to demolish rossiya hotel.the hotel was built 40 years ago.containing 3000 rooms.making it the biggest hotel in the world.
any word what going to built in the lot?
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Old June 13th, 2006, 08:10 AM   #2
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Yikes! At least it'll be no great loss to the architechural world. Check out Russia Hotel on Emporis - there's also a link to an article about it's demolition. Apparentely the hotel closed at the end of last year.
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Old June 13th, 2006, 10:11 AM   #3
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several floors already demolished on southeastern and northwestern sides. a new lowrise district will be rebuilt on its place, following old zaryad'ye plan.
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Old June 13th, 2006, 11:58 AM   #4
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several floors already demolished on southeastern and northwestern sides. a new lowrise district will be rebuilt on its place, following old zaryad'ye plan.
someone compare it fall of berlin wall,the end of the era.anyway the hotel occupy what is consider a prime lot.
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Old June 13th, 2006, 03:05 PM   #5
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Old June 13th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #6
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It will almost be sad to see this one go - I stayed there in 1998, and as a testament to crap architecture, crap facilities, lousy customer service and institutionalised organised crime, it can't be beat. I just hope they build something worthy of the memory of the scores of old buildings they razed to the ground in order to build it in the first place.
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Old June 13th, 2006, 05:24 PM   #7
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ugly as hell!!! i won't be sad to see it go!
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Old June 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM   #8
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Not a nice building, but lowrise district? Why tear down one eyesore, only to replace it with another?
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Old June 13th, 2006, 06:34 PM   #9
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It will almost be sad to see this one go - I stayed there in 1998, and as a testament to crap architecture, crap facilities, lousy customer service and institutionalised organised crime, it can't be beat. I just hope they build something worthy of the memory of the scores of old buildings they razed to the ground in order to build it in the first place.
most of hotel was upgraded in 90's. small part left in about 2 stars specially for people who wasn't able to allow more. as for organised crime - tell fairy tales to someone else.



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Not a nice building, but lowrise district? Why tear down one eyesore, only to replace it with another?
another eyesore?? what you talking about. before end of 1930's there was traditional east slavic lowrise district. it is center of moscow. so it is absolutely correct way to rebuilt the district and it is supported by everyone.

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Old June 13th, 2006, 06:54 PM   #10
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[QUOTE=coth]most of hotel was upgraded in 90's. small part left in about 2 stars specially for people who wasn't able to allow more. as for organised crime - tell fairy tales to someone else.

Fairy tales? You are joking? Maybe times have changed since I was last in Moscow, but in the late 90's the Rossiya was known for links to organised crime, and you couldn't pick up a copy of Izvestia without reading of another hotel manager who had been "retired" from his post. Or maybe all the squareheads in black leather in the reception just liked the coffee...
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Old June 13th, 2006, 06:56 PM   #11
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Smashing pictures of old Moscow, BTW Coth
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Old June 13th, 2006, 07:11 PM   #12
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[QUOTE=Varenukha]
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most of hotel was upgraded in 90's. small part left in about 2 stars specially for people who wasn't able to allow more. as for organised crime - tell fairy tales to someone else.

Fairy tales? You are joking? Maybe times have changed since I was last in Moscow, but in the late 90's the Rossiya was known for links to organised crime, and you couldn't pick up a copy of Izvestia without reading of another hotel manager who had been "retired" from his post. Or maybe all the squareheads in black leather in the reception just liked the coffee...
so all your knowledges came from story in newspaper, written by journalist who has heard that someone else heard story about it...?
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Old June 14th, 2006, 01:55 AM   #13
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Sad! They could have rebuilt it to a Las Vegas style luxury hotel with a USSR theme instead...
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Old June 14th, 2006, 11:53 AM   #14
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so all your knowledges came from story in newspaper, written by journalist who has heard that someone else heard story about it...?
I know little spats like this are thoroughly boring for SSC forum-ers, but...... since you ask, yes I do get some of my information from newspapers. And from direct experience of living in Moscow and St Petes. And from business contacts and friends I have had in Russia for 10 years. Sounds like you are a Russian citizen, so I yield to your greater knowledge, but I think you are substantially in denial if you believe that Moscow has no organised crime problem. Hell - it's in your face as soon as you get off the plan and need to get a cab from Scheremetyevo!
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most of hotel was upgraded in 90's. small part left in about 2 stars specially for people who wasn't able to allow more. as for organised crime - tell fairy tales to someone else.




another eyesore?? what you talking about. before end of 1930's there was traditional east slavic lowrise district. it is center of moscow. so it is absolutely correct way to rebuilt the district and it is supported by everyone.

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They're gonna retro design everything? Because, I know the local residents always fight for the smallest buildings (a process known as "nimbyism"), but imo (and this is ofc only my opinion) NO lowrise district I've seen to date involving modern architecture has been beautiful. Some tolerable, some bad, no really good. Single buildings can ofc be nice, but in Europe, all new large scale lowrise developments turn out to be endless rows of faceless shacks hiding behind and killing each other. But hey; please prove me wrong!
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Old June 15th, 2006, 04:54 AM   #17
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Sad! They could have rebuilt it to a Las Vegas style luxury hotel with a USSR theme instead...
That would be awesome!
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