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Old June 14th, 2006, 09:58 PM   #21
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That's only because all famous people "are" Greek It's interesting isn't it that a Greek would contribute so much to islamic architecture!

Nice Try. But try again. It is BYZANTINE architecture. It became "islamic" once the minarets were added.

For the record, this thread was going along fine and in a civil manner until this troll spewed his moronic statement.

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Old June 14th, 2006, 10:34 PM   #22
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Maybe I should write an article on the net, explaining that Aristotle was a Turk.
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Old June 14th, 2006, 10:36 PM   #23
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Nice Try. But try again. It is BYZANTINE architecture. It became "islamic" once the minarets were added.

For the record, this thread was going along fine and in a civil manner until this troll spewed his moronic statement.
No, it's Ottoman architecture inspired by the Byzantine architecture, if you are mentioning the works of Sinan here...
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Old June 14th, 2006, 10:42 PM   #24
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No, it's Ottoman architecture inspired by the Byzantine architecture, if you are mentioning the works of Sinan here...

The style of architecture is Byzantine. Period.

Who are you trying to kid here?


http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildi...ia_Sophia.html

Hagia Sophia Commentary:

"If there is one work that realizes the 'ideal' Byzantine model, it is the astonishing church of Hagia Sophia built as the new Cathedral of Constantinople by the Emperor Justinian...He intended it as the keystone of his vast architectural campaign..."

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Old June 14th, 2006, 11:38 PM   #25
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Here he is, the great architect Sinan:


Some of his works:


Suleymaniye Mosque



Mihrimah Sultan Mosque:



Inner views of Selimiye Mosque/Edirne:



Haseki Hamami (Turkish Bath):



Sokollu (Selim II) Kulliyesi/Hatay Payas:
P.S. Kulliye is complex of buildings adjacent to a mosque.



Sokollu Mosque/Kadirga/Istanbul:



Mihrimah Sultan Mosque/Uskudar:



Some of His Works:

Haseki Külliyesi
Şehzade Külliyesi
Süleymaniye Külliyesi
Atik Valide Külliyesi, Üsküdar
Sokollu Külliyesi, Lüleburgaz
Süleymaniye Külliyesi, Şam
Sokollu (Selim II) Külliyesi, Hatay Payas

Camiler (mosques):

Dört Dayanaklı - Tek Kubbeli Camiler (with unique dome)

Hadım İbrahim Paşa Camisi, Silivrikapı
Mihrimah Sultan Camisi, Edirnekapı
Zal Mahmut Paşa Camisi, Eyüp

Dört Dayanaklı - Yarım Kubbeli Camiler (with half dome)

Mihrimah Sultan Camisi, Üsküdar
Şehzade Camisi
Sülaymaniye Camisi
Kılıç Ali Paşa Camisi
Altı Dayanaklı Camiler
Sinan Paşa Camisi, Beşiktaş
Kara Ahmet Paşa Camisi, Topkapı
Molla Çelebi Camisi, Fındıklı
Semiz Ali Paşa Camisi, Babaeski
Atik Valide Camisi, Üsküdar
Sokollu Camisi, Kadırga

Special thanks to Prof. Dr. Reha Gunay
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Old June 15th, 2006, 12:02 AM   #26
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The style of architecture is Byzantine. Period.

Who are you trying to kid here?


http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildi...ia_Sophia.html

Hagia Sophia Commentary:

"If there is one work that realizes the 'ideal' Byzantine model, it is the astonishing church of Hagia Sophia built as the new Cathedral of Constantinople by the Emperor Justinian...He intended it as the keystone of his vast architectural campaign..."
Hello? We are not talking about Hagia Sophia here.

We are talking about Sinan and his masterpieces and his masterpieces are a great example of Ottoman architecture.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 12:08 AM   #27
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he knows everything better than us Istanbullu, they have a such a education system in Canada but mostly confuses the subjects...

If they paid attention to their own country as much as they pay attention to Turkey, the one who openned the thread about the White Tower would haven't been me
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Old June 15th, 2006, 12:33 AM   #28
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oh oh... kuvvaci be nice!!!!

well the Süleymaniye Camii is considered to be Sinans answer to Agia Sofia (he got inspired by the roof design of Agia Sofia)... I think the influence of Byzantine Architecture can not be denied... But it remains a ottoman mosque,..
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Old June 15th, 2006, 01:36 AM   #29
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Hello? We are not talking about Hagia Sophia here.

We are talking about Sinan and his masterpieces and his masterpieces are a great example of Ottoman architecture.

I think you are confusing what I am saying. I used the Agia Sophia as an example of prominent Byzantine architecture which was the basis, or inspiration, of many great works thereafter. I am not arguing with you.

And Kuvvaci, if you would like to discuss our educational backgrounds, I would love to chat with you. Just send me a PM.

With respect to the white tower of Thessaloniki thread you started, great work! It just is another addition to the hundreds of other threads and images I have posted of our great nation Hellas.

Thanks for your contribution!
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Old June 15th, 2006, 04:50 PM   #30
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Here he is, the great architect Sinan:


Some of his works:


Suleymaniye Mosque



Mihrimah Sultan Mosque:



Inner views of Selimiye Mosque/Edirne:



Haseki Hamami (Turkish Bath):



Sokollu (Selim II) Kulliyesi/Hatay Payas:
P.S. Kulliye is complex of buildings adjacent to a mosque.



Sokollu Mosque/Kadirga/Istanbul:



Mihrimah Sultan Mosque/Uskudar:



Some of His Works:

Haseki Külliyesi
Şehzade Külliyesi
Süleymaniye Külliyesi
Atik Valide Külliyesi, Üsküdar
Sokollu Külliyesi, Lüleburgaz
Süleymaniye Külliyesi, Şam
Sokollu (Selim II) Külliyesi, Hatay Payas

Camiler (mosques):

Dört Dayanaklı - Tek Kubbeli Camiler (with unique dome)

Hadım İbrahim Paşa Camisi, Silivrikapı
Mihrimah Sultan Camisi, Edirnekapı
Zal Mahmut Paşa Camisi, Eyüp

Dört Dayanaklı - Yarım Kubbeli Camiler (with half dome)

Mihrimah Sultan Camisi, Üsküdar
Şehzade Camisi
Sülaymaniye Camisi
Kılıç Ali Paşa Camisi
Altı Dayanaklı Camiler
Sinan Paşa Camisi, Beşiktaş
Kara Ahmet Paşa Camisi, Topkapı
Molla Çelebi Camisi, Fındıklı
Semiz Ali Paşa Camisi, Babaeski
Atik Valide Camisi, Üsküdar
Sokollu Camisi, Kadırga

Special thanks to Prof. Dr. Reha Gunay
Extensive list.

The last line in the Encyclopaedia Brittanica article on Sinan states. '...Many scholars consider his tomb monuments to be the finest examples of his smaller works.'

I found some pics. The work is exquisite, very original.









I couldn't put a label to the pictures, but the link has all the detail.

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Old June 15th, 2006, 05:03 PM   #31
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Great job Neo.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 05:09 PM   #32
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Very beautiful Ottoman masterpieces. Sinan was not only an architect but a city planner as well, he always constructed his masterpieces on the right place.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 07:10 PM   #33
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Errrrr

I have used the term "Megapolisomancy" or "urban Magic" to discuss how interventions in cities transform them.

I don't believe that the Byzantines or the Ottomans (both Great empires BTW) were moving at random when they were planning and expanding Konstantinople/ Istanbul. When someone visits this city what he sees is a seamless continuity of "architectural flow". We have every reason to believe that the urban magic performed here was according to a geodetic plan.

Unfortunately, I can speak about Paris and London as well as Athens, but Istanbul deserves a thorough analysis since the Ottimans probably found the principles guiding the energy lines of the city and abode to them in the same way Easter Romans/ Byzantines did. But this, is a long story.

Sinan, probably had the intuition to transcend cultures and see at the essence of things. True, the domes of the mosques, the Hagia Sophia and certain views of Istranbul are breathtaking and almost out-of-this-world. Sinan was an intuitive visionary and his vision still lives. We leave it to that.

As for the dome, it is a characteristic of monotheic religious architecture, as it symbolises the sky, the heavenly sphere... In many mosques and churches, you may see corresponding signs of the dome, into the ceiling, ir even the underground compartments of a structure. In Christianity we have a phrase "As above, so below". Check the Coran to see whether the Prophet has something equivalent to this. Then you will find the answer as to shy the roofs of many anciaent churches, mosques or even Buddhist and Hinduist temples have domes (i.e. like the TaJ Mahal). Then you will see the work of great urbanomancers trying to reflect what is "above" to "below" through the use of domes...

I believe it's time to write a HUGE thread about megappolisomancy... Urban magic... transformation... evolution...

But I stretched the topic too much I guess, didn't I?
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