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Old June 18th, 2007, 10:23 AM   #101
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You will find information about this tower on Ajman property site:

http://www.ajmanproperty.com/index.htm
Thank you very much djamel05. But I couldn't find the developer of the Tower there. I would like to study more about the developer before applying to buy an apartment in that tower. Any help?
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Old June 18th, 2007, 04:16 PM   #102
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I wonder what would be the status of Ajman property if the UAE Property market crashes. Will there be any buyers for Ajman property at that time if Dubai flats are available at good prices? With so many apartments to be ready in 2009 in Emirates city, do you think that a owner will be able to sell his apartment easily if he wishes to do so? Lets start debate on this as more than discussing about individual towers in Emirates City, it would be worthwhile discussing the fate of Ajman property in the medium to long term. Views of all boarders are welcome here. Thanks. Navin (owner of an apartment in Paradise Lakes)!
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Old June 18th, 2007, 08:24 PM   #103
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parham......by all means use ajmanproperty website for all the info and pics etc but dont buy through them as they add a transfer fee of about 1%. you pay the right price through other agents which are well documented on this forum . I even bargained them down on the price of the parking . Just for your info
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Old June 19th, 2007, 08:32 AM   #104
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hi

i dont think dubai property market will crash in next 10 years. i have never seen an city where metro train is developed and the property prices crashes. the latest example is delhi in india where after metro train arrival prices have increased 3 times. if ajman can do something with its transportation facilities to connect with dubai then this project will see double of its prices.however only buy if you want to live there for atleast 5 years because with so many towers and new projects coming it is not easy to sell your flat.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 08:57 AM   #105
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Several Projects on same plots

While I was trying to update the list of Towers in Emirates City, I found few alarming discrepencies that I want to share and thy basically consist of few projects are being claimed for the same plot. The first of these are:

Sahara Towers: Located on C15 and C16



The second project is Sum Gulf Tower developed by Sumgulf real Estate. Below is the link to their brochure:
http://somgulftowers.com/SOMGULF-PERSENTATION.pdf

Please advise on what is going on. I will be shortly preparing another write up about another contested plot.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 08:58 AM   #106
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Sorry I forgot to indicate that Sum Gulf Tower is claimed to be built on plot C16
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Old June 20th, 2007, 11:31 AM   #107
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may be sahara sold the whole tower to sumgulf real estate.as i know sahara have some tie up with r holdings and may be they have sold their tower.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #108
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may be sahara sold the whole tower to sumgulf real estate.as i know sahara have some tie up with r holdings and may be they have sold their tower.
It seems that Golf Tower(A11) is also going to be developed by Somgulf Ltd. while Somgolf only claims for C16.
Anybody has more accurate information?
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Old June 20th, 2007, 01:17 PM   #109
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may be sahara sold the whole tower to sumgulf real estate.as i know sahara have some tie up with r holdings and may be they have sold their tower.
These are two different tower designs and both projects are being sold. Sahara by different real estate agencies and Sumgulf, exclusively through them
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Old June 20th, 2007, 03:11 PM   #110
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As I have discussed earlier there are two other projects claimed on the same plot. These are Majestic Towers of Monarque Properties and Investment: Plots C2 and C3 and Lake Towers at plots C3 and C4.

At all of these plots, piling work is under way and finished at plot C2.
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Old June 20th, 2007, 03:17 PM   #111
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List of Towers with Developers

Plot Tower Name Developer
A1 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A2 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A3 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A4
A5
A6
A7
A8
AB1
AB2
AB3
A9
A10
A11 Golf Tower
A12
A13
A14
A15
A16
A17
B1 Burj Al Furqan Al Furqan Real Estate
B2 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B3 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B4 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B5 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B6 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B7 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B8 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B9 Paradise Lakes R Holding
B10 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B11 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B12 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B13 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B14 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B15 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B16 Crystal Residency Bonyad Developers Limites
B17
B18
CT The Eye Tower R Holding
CU
C1 Fortune Residency Fortune Homes Real Estate
C2 Majestic Towers Monarque Properties and Investment
C3 Majestic Towers Monarque Properties and Investment
C3 Lake Towers

C4 Lake Towers
C5 Orbit Tower Palm Real Estate
C6 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C7 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C8 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C9 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C10 Al Furqan Twin Towers Al Furqan Real Estate
C11 Al Furqan Twin Towers Al Furqan Real Estate
C12 Al Jazeera Tower Ghanim Saeed Matar Al Suwaidi
C13 Savannah GSS Group
C14
C15 Sahara Towers Sahara Real Estate
C16 Sahara Towers Sahara Real Estate
C16 Sum Gulf Tower Sumgulf Real Estate

C17 Lake View Tower Lake View
C18
D1 Lavender Tower R Holding
D2 Lilies Tower R Holding
D3 The Rose Residential Tower Real Estate Investment EST
D4 Chapal the Glory Chapal Group
D5 Harmony Chapal Group
D6
D7
D8
D9
D10
D11
D12
D13
D14 Pearl Tower BSEL

I still couldn't find developers of Golf Tower and Lake Towers
In Red, Towers for the same plot
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Old June 20th, 2007, 09:13 PM   #112
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These 2 have similar names - Lake Tower (C3/C4???) and Lake View Tower (C17), they are entirely different towers and developers
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Old June 21st, 2007, 09:29 AM   #113
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Gross Area vs. Net Area

I've noticed a big difference between gross area and net area of the apartments in Emirates City. Gross area is usually 20% higher than net area of the apartment. And the pricing is based on gross as far as I know.
Agree?
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Old June 21st, 2007, 03:34 PM   #114
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I've noticed a big difference between gross area and net area of the apartments in Emirates City. Gross area is usually 20% higher than net area of the apartment. And the pricing is based on gross as far as I know.
Agree?

This is becoming the norm in most projects in Dubai. It has to do partly to the nature of freehold ownership. Once all the units of a building are sold, 100% of the ownership of the building will be transferred to the units owners, for this reason each one does own a percentage of the shared areas. The gross area also determines the participation quota of each unit owner to the service charge.
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 06:57 PM   #115
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Plot no D-13 & D-14

djamel05June 3rd, 2007, 10:33 AM
The project on D14 has already been anounced is in on sale. It is PEARL Tower. The web site is: http://www.99acres.com/customised/bsel/index.htm
This company (BSEL Infrastructure Ltd) owns 4 plots in Emirates City and most probably D13 would be their project as well. Would you please Coolteam tell us from your visit to builders office abour any details regarding the starting schedules for the towers that they didn't start yet.


hi All

sorry for the delay in giving the details since i had to go to UK.

The company (BSEL Infrastructure Realty Ltd) is an indian Public listed company (Listed in bSE, NSE & Lexumber Stock)and owns 7 plots in Emirates City from D-08 to D-14. here in uae their company is known as Bsel Infrastructure realty FZE. i was lucky to meet the engineers and with my good contacts i met Mr Ahmed saffarini their in their Deira office. he explained me the entire project and also the city is getting extension with 20 more plots thats the latest news for all.

The Chairman of Saffarini office was appreciating the company and was recommending me to buy in BSEl Pearl Tower. as per his views the loading in pearl tower is comparatively lower than the other projects in the Emirates city. He was also saying that the company is a cash rich company and had signed the pilling contracts and the same will be starting in the month of July.

Now i even had the names of all of the projects of Emirates city

PROJECT EMIRATES CITY---- AJMAN.

MASTER DEVELOPER---- R HOLDINGS

List of Towers with Developers
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Plot Tower Name Developer
A1 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A2 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A3 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A4 Goldcrest Dreams
A5 Goldcrest Dreams
A6 Goldcrest Dreams
A7 Goldcrest Dreams
A11 Golf Tower
B1 Burj Al Furqan Al Furqan Real Estate
B2 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B3 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B4 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B5 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B6 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B7 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B8 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B9 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B10 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B11 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B12 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B13 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B14 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B15 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B16 Crystal Residency Bonyad Developers Limited
CT The Eye Tower R Holding
CU The Eye Tower R Holding
C1 Fortune Residency Fortune Homes Real Estate
C2 Majestic Towers Monarque Properties and Investment
C3 Majestic Towers Monarque Properties and Investment
C3 Lake Towers
C4 Lake Towers
C5 Orbit Tower Palm Real Estate
C6 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C7 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C8 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C9 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C10 Al Furqan Twin Towers -- Furqan Real Estate
C11 Al Furqan Twin Towers -- Furqan Real Estate
C12 Al Jazeera Tower Ghanim Saeed Matar Al Suwaidi
C13 Savannah--GSS Group
C15 Sahara Towers Sahara Real Estate
C16 Sahara Towers Sahara Real Estate
C16 Sum Gulf Tower Sumgulf Real Estate
C17 Lake View Tower Lake View
D1 Lavender Tower-- R Holding
D2 Lilies Tower-- R Holding
D3 The Rose Tower -- R Holding
D4 Chapal the Glory-- Chapal Group
D5 Chapal the Harmony-- Chapal Group
D6 _____ Chapal Group
D7 _____ Chapal Group
D8 Bsel Ruby—BSEL Group
D9 Bsel Emerald—BSEL Group
D10 Bsel Sapphire—BSEL Group
D11 Bsel Almas—BSEL Group
D12 Bsel Kharaman—BSEL Group
D13 Bsel Fayrooz—BSEL Group
D14 BSEL Pearl Tower—BSEL Group

Thanks and bye for today

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Old June 23rd, 2007, 06:57 PM   #116
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Plot no D-13 & D-14

djamel05June 3rd, 2007, 10:33 AM
The project on D14 has already been anounced is in on sale. It is PEARL Tower. The web site is: http://www.99acres.com/customised/bsel/index.htm
This company (BSEL Infrastructure Ltd) owns 4 plots in Emirates City and most probably D13 would be their project as well. Would you please Coolteam tell us from your visit to builders office abour any details regarding the starting schedules for the towers that they didn't start yet.


hi All

sorry for the delay in giving the details since i had to go to UK.

The company (BSEL Infrastructure Realty Ltd) is an indian Public listed company (Listed in bSE, NSE & Lexumber Stock)and owns 7 plots in Emirates City from D-08 to D-14. here in uae their company is known as Bsel Infrastructure realty FZE. i was lucky to meet the engineers and with my good contacts i met Mr Ahmed saffarini their in their Deira office. he explained me the entire project and also the city is getting extension with 20 more plots thats the latest news for all.

The Chairman of Saffarini office was appreciating the company and was recommending me to buy in BSEl Pearl Tower. as per his views the loading in pearl tower is comparatively lower than the other projects in the Emirates city. He was also saying that the company is a cash rich company and had signed the pilling contracts and the same will be starting in the month of July.

Now i even had the names of all of the projects of Emirates city

PROJECT EMIRATES CITY---- AJMAN.

MASTER DEVELOPER---- R HOLDINGS

List of Towers with Developers
________________________________________
Plot Tower Name Developer
A1 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A2 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A3 Goldcrest Dreams 2 GIGA Star
A4 Goldcrest Dreams
A5 Goldcrest Dreams
A6 Goldcrest Dreams
A7 Goldcrest Dreams
A11 Golf Tower
B1 Burj Al Furqan Al Furqan Real Estate
B2 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B3 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B4 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B5 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B6 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B7 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B8 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B9 Paradise Lakes-- Sweet Homes
B10 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B11 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B12 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B13 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B14 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B15 Rainbow Towers Sweet Homes
B16 Crystal Residency Bonyad Developers Limited
CT The Eye Tower R Holding
CU The Eye Tower R Holding
C1 Fortune Residency Fortune Homes Real Estate
C2 Majestic Towers Monarque Properties and Investment
C3 Majestic Towers Monarque Properties and Investment
C3 Lake Towers
C4 Lake Towers
C5 Orbit Tower Palm Real Estate
C6 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C7 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C8 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C9 Goldcrest Dreams GIGA Star
C10 Al Furqan Twin Towers -- Furqan Real Estate
C11 Al Furqan Twin Towers -- Furqan Real Estate
C12 Al Jazeera Tower Ghanim Saeed Matar Al Suwaidi
C13 Savannah--GSS Group
C15 Sahara Towers Sahara Real Estate
C16 Sahara Towers Sahara Real Estate
C16 Sum Gulf Tower Sumgulf Real Estate
C17 Lake View Tower Lake View
D1 Lavender Tower-- R Holding
D2 Lilies Tower-- R Holding
D3 The Rose Tower -- R Holding
D4 Chapal the Glory-- Chapal Group
D5 Chapal the Harmony-- Chapal Group
D6 _____ Chapal Group
D7 _____ Chapal Group
D8 Bsel Ruby—BSEL Group
D9 Bsel Emerald—BSEL Group
D10 Bsel Sapphire—BSEL Group
D11 Bsel Almas—BSEL Group
D12 Bsel Kharaman—BSEL Group
D13 Bsel Fayrooz—BSEL Group
D14 BSEL Pearl Tower—BSEL Group

Thanks and bye for today

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Old June 23rd, 2007, 08:57 PM   #117
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djamel05June 3rd, 2007, 10:33 AM
i was lucky to meet the engineers and with my good contacts i met Mr Ahmed saffarini their in their Deira office. he explained me the entire project and also the city is getting extension with 20 more plots thats the latest news for all.
20 more plots?...So you mean that they want to change the master plan of Emirates City?...
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Old June 23rd, 2007, 09:29 PM   #118
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I have heard that the Shaikh of Ajman keept 20 plot himself, its true or just gossip?

I see coolteam "s list , GIGA has more 4 plots??? 12 Goldcrest Dreams??
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Old June 24th, 2007, 06:35 AM   #119
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Mr. coolteam is right now Emirates city have 92 Towers, visit the R-holding website which is under construction but front page recorded 92 towers and not 72 towers as earlier announced, now we have to wait how and where they will accomodate these 20 towers. Visit www.rholdings.ae
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Old June 24th, 2007, 08:39 AM   #120
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Thanks Coolteam for the update. May I ask you if you found out from Ahmad Safarrini which towers are C3 (Majestic Tower vs. Lake Tower) and C16 (Sahara Tower vs. Sumgulf Tower). The following plots still tower name and developer unknown: A8, AB1, AB2, AB3, A9, A10, A12, A13, A14, A15, A16, A17, B17, B18, C14, and C18. I don't know if he has also confirmed to you that BCON will be the only contractor or that for some projects other contractors will be involved.
By the way, a question which does not relate to the topic, how is Saffarini copping with all the projects from their Deira office that they had from the seventies? It is becoming more and more of a small cramped space. Neither the office space or the number of staff has increased in the same magnitude of the projects they have.
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