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Old June 25th, 2006, 02:30 PM   #101
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Maybe the sky lobbys are situated in the double levels.For example level 42/43. Elevator passengers arrive at "level 42" and have to go up a floor by stairs to "level 43" to go to the elevators which will take them higher!
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Old June 26th, 2006, 12:36 AM   #102
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was playing around with Photoshop since i love Emaar's advertising slogans.

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Old June 26th, 2006, 01:02 AM   #103
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Yes there is a point to keep the height secret. It acts as a marketing gimmick for this tower and helps keep interest in it (which has been successful at doing so far).
I believe making the building taller than Taipei 101 was the marketing gimmick. Keeping the height undetermined at this point is soemthing else.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 01:21 AM   #104
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The 808 Meters makes a lot of sense. Since Adrian Smith was giving the freedom to design the building as tall as he'd like to go. The 808 Meters is exactly 1/2 mile, and since Adrian Smith is a U.S. Architect it makes sense that he would shot for 1/2 mile. A height that reaches 1/2 way to Frank L. Wright's vision.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 03:09 AM   #105
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You can see from this picture that the large core openings to the wings are simply not present on level 43 - I'd agree with the double-height floor for these levels.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 03:49 AM   #106
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The 808 Meters makes a lot of sense. Since Adrian Smith was giving the freedom to design the building as tall as he'd like to go. The 808 Meters is exactly 1/2 mile, and since Adrian Smith is a U.S. Architect it makes sense that he would shot for 1/2 mile. A height that reaches 1/2 way to Frank L. Wright's vision.
yes! i concur. sounds very much what Adrian Smith would do.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 04:25 AM   #107
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.. expect it to reach AT LEAST the top of this picture (assuming it's less than 800m to spire)

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My mind has a hard time imagining the building going up that high. This is one hell of a spectacular building for sure. I wonder where someone would have to stand to capture the whole thing in one frame.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 04:26 AM   #108
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:43 AM   #109
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The base is so big it doesnt look 50 stores to me! So tall!
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Old June 26th, 2006, 09:40 AM   #110
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^yes, BurjD is just over 90m/300ft wide at the lower floors, so its one of largest base of all skyscrapers! comparisons- ESB is about 90m?, WTc were 63m, Sears tower-70m,taipei101-65m, SWFC-70m,John hancock-75m,ICC-70m,
one of the widest skyscraper bases must be the Tuntex tower in Kaoshuing. being 130m wide! basically up to about half way (180m) then tower shaft only 45m for rest of way up.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 03:47 PM   #111
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^yes, BurjD is just over 90m/300ft wide at the lower floors, so its one of largest base of all skyscrapers! comparisons- ESB is about 90m?, WTc were 63m, Sears tower-70m,taipei101-65m, SWFC-70m,John hancock-75m,ICC-70m,
one of the widest skyscraper bases must be the Tuntex tower in Kaoshuing. being 130m wide! basically up to about half way (180m) then tower shaft only 45m for rest of way up.
I thought Sears was 90m, or 30m for each of the 9 squares that make up it's footprint. There's that strange one in North Korea that was never finished, 110f or so, and probably about 150m wide.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 04:09 PM   #112
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//My mind has a hard time imagining the building going up that high. This is one hell of a spectacular building for sure. I wonder where someone would have to stand to capture the whole thing in one frame.//

I estimate it's about quarter it's final height now (190m x 4 = 760m)
I can imagine it sort of getting as high as in that image...
For one the building curves upwards - so the number of floors between each setback begins to increase now. Instead of 7 floors it'll be more like 10 floors.
So unlike that London Gerkin / St Marys Axe that curves in at the top narrowing quickly - this curves upwards so it extends to a sharp point. So in profile the building won't have 2 straight sides.

Also each wingtip is a lot longer than each setback section - so they have to come up yet.

There's no-way this tower will only be 600-700m judging by the renders and the comments made by the designers about "increasing the final height so it didnt look too blunt" the new design shows the top half as being far more elongated pushing the final height above 800m. That 808m sounds good, I think somebody accidently leaked the final height.
I'm curious how many steel occupied floors we're going to have above the 150 concrete ones. If we really are going to have 190 floors in this thing!
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Old June 26th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #113
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I thought Sears was 90m, or 30m for each of the 9 squares that make up it's footprint. There's that strange one in North Korea that was never finished, 110f or so, and probably about 150m wide.
each of Sears tubes measure 75ft x75ft or 23m x 23m, thus 225ft or 68.5m in width.
yes the north korean pyong yang hotel would be well over 100m wide but it basically reduces straight away as it rises to only a few metres across at 330m mark.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 06:07 PM   #114
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I believe making the building taller than Taipei 101 was the marketing gimmick. Keeping the height undetermined at this point is soemthing else.
The secrecy was Adrian Smith's idea. After the failure of 7 South Dearborn in Chicago, he was desperate to get the WTB. Hardly a scientific conclusion, but that's what it seems.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 06:22 PM   #115
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Old June 26th, 2006, 06:50 PM   #116
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what a monster...and man its just hard to imagine it getting THAT much Taller!
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:05 PM   #117
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Great sequence. It would be hard to make an animated gif of that in the coming months, it would get too tall!
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:44 PM   #118
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hi my name is angelo
and i really dont think you guys are right about the buildings wideness it doesnt even look over 300 feet at the base
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Old June 26th, 2006, 08:14 PM   #119
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i am sure u r correct and we are a bunch of idiots who don't have an idea.

actually roughly 300f is what we are saying.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 09:41 PM   #120
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but is it close to 300
to me it looks like 100 feet wide
but does any body know exactly how wide it is
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