daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > General Urban Developments > DN Archives



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old July 6th, 2006, 09:56 AM   #41
FREKI
Lord of Legoland
 
FREKI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 10,663
Likes (Received): 6295

Quote:
Originally Posted by zenith
Only the uneducated and uncultured could seriously believe malls are wonderful.
Hey... I'm both kinda educated and cultured, and I still enjoy malls, eventhough my city have Europe's longest pedestrian shoppings street ( http://www.visitcopenhagen.com/touri...hopping_street ) and there's shops just about everywhere else too.

Malls are nice and convenient, warm in the winter, cold in the summer, full of chicks, easy parking, all the common stores... basicly anything you want.

Yes it's american culture, but hey what's so bad about that?
__________________
Recent FREKI PRESENTS threads:
Denmark - Dubai - The Wild Wild West - Prague - Phuket - Shanghai - Planet Earth
FREKI no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old July 6th, 2006, 10:06 AM   #42
virarch
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 448
Likes (Received): 1

Quote:
Originally Posted by _00_deathscar
Not sure about China, but Hong Kong's 'official hobby' is shopping. And we don't have very large malls at all, just very many.
Are you sure it's not gambling - horse racing, mahjong ... etc? LOL.

Compared with other peoples, Chinese as a group seem to have the strongest innate urge to gamble. And it's not just the small potatoes. Have you heard of the mainland Chinese official under arrest for losing 300 million dollars betting on oil futures in Singapore?
virarch no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 6th, 2006, 11:51 PM   #43
samsonyuen
SSLL
 
samsonyuen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canary Wharf > CityPlace
Posts: 8,350
Likes (Received): 314

I must admit the Gardens is a pretty cool concept. It's like Las Vegas!
samsonyuen no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2006, 10:54 AM   #44
shaggers_jr
can the can
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,141
Likes (Received): 174

As a western person who's never fully aclimatised to the demands of Asia's streets I have to say that malls are a a welcome treat on certain days. Malls might be going out of style in the west but some days in Asia they're like little urban oasis' for which I am extremely grateful. Part of the appeal of malls in Asia, in my opinion, is the because in developing societies they offer the rich an opportunity to demarcate themselves from the poor. In the west (certainly in Australia) it's going the other way: malls are associated with suburban "bogans" and street shopping with the rich, inner-city elite. Whether this is true or not is a matter of contention, but I think that's the perception.
shaggers_jr no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2006, 11:22 AM   #45
Saigoneseguy
Vivat capitalismus
 
Saigoneseguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Saigon
Posts: 5,330
Likes (Received): 106

Only the uneducated and uncultured could seriously believe malls are wonderful.

There's no true mall in England, remind you
__________________
' ' Si Gn khng bao giờ ngủ - V tiền khng bao giờ đủ '
Saigoneseguy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2006, 11:31 AM   #46
Kev the burninator
////////////////////
 
Kev the burninator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 456
Likes (Received): 0

Weird. I was almost positive that the West Ed mall was the biggest...
Kev the burninator no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2006, 11:33 AM   #47
szehoong
M O D E R A T O R
 
szehoong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 12,830
Likes (Received): 1812

It is easy for those living in temperate countries to say that malls are for the losers and stuffs like that.

Well.....try walking for just an hour outside a tropical (NOT Florida or HK's sub-tropical but the actual tropics like Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore) and you would know that even under shades you still sweat like there's a water tank inside you.

Walking into an air-conditioned mall is like walking into heaven and you would know why many South East Asians and Middle Easterners love malls
__________________
The MALAYSIAN Forums
szehoong no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2006, 11:39 AM   #48
szehoong
M O D E R A T O R
 
szehoong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 12,830
Likes (Received): 1812

Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggers_jr
As a western person who's never fully aclimatised to the demands of Asia's streets I have to say that malls are a a welcome treat on certain days. Malls might be going out of style in the west but some days in Asia they're like little urban oasis' for which I am extremely grateful. Part of the appeal of malls in Asia, in my opinion, is the because in developing societies they offer the rich an opportunity to demarcate themselves from the poor. In the west (certainly in Australia) it's going the other way: malls are associated with suburban "bogans" and street shopping with the rich, inner-city elite. Whether this is true or not is a matter of contention, but I think that's the perception.

Actually I beg to differ......at least not in the case of Malaysia (I can't speak for other countries thou). Here, we have high-society malls and we have middle class suburban malls to malls that are basically like a huge Wal-Mart/Target with lotsa other 'cheapo' shops to cater for the budget concious. Everyone here goes to the malls - yea....the poor and the rich.

Street shopping here is almost non-existance except for night markets because it is cooler here at night and people only comes out at night. During the day you would only see people in the car or at home or in the comfort of an air-conditioned shopping mall. There are shops (mostly in suburbias) but they are mostly convenient stores and restaurants One can't find Gucci or LV boutiques even on the poshes street although the rentals is much cheaper than those in a shopping mall.
__________________
The MALAYSIAN Forums
szehoong no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 7th, 2006, 11:59 AM   #49
Mosaic
BANGKOK
 
Mosaic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 13,302
Likes (Received): 758

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev the burninator
Weird. I was almost positive that the West Ed mall was the biggest...

it used to be the biggest but not anymore right now.
Mosaic no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 8th, 2006, 04:37 AM   #50
ishtefh_03
....
 
ishtefh_03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SJV-CSFP
Posts: 1,110
Likes (Received): 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmoManila
Mall of Asia, Manila, Philippines


(from flickr.com)
- Second largest IMAX theater in the world
- 5000 parking slots
- 600 shops, 150 dining establishments
- Southeast Asia's largest ice skating rink
- mile-long seaside promenade
the ice skating rink is olympic size, right?? i haven't tried watching in IMAX and i hate going here during weekend, it's always crowded.
__________________
Colegio de Arquitectura
Pontificia et Regalis Sancti Thomae Aquinatis Universitas Manilana
>>> ishtefh
ishtefh_03 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old July 8th, 2006, 05:44 AM   #51
_00_deathscar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 5,047
Likes (Received): 217

Quote:
Originally Posted by virarch
Are you sure it's not gambling - horse racing, mahjong ... etc? LOL.

Compared with other peoples, Chinese as a group seem to have the strongest innate urge to gamble. And it's not just the small potatoes. Have you heard of the mainland Chinese official under arrest for losing 300 million dollars betting on oil futures in Singapore?
Gambling's second.

And yes they do have an urge to gamble. I believe the Hong Kong Jockey Club pulls in as much money in one night of betting as the UK's equivalent in a year's time.

That, is simply ridiculous.
_00_deathscar no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 05:05 AM   #52
wafu21m
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 153
Likes (Received): 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by skytalk View Post
World's Largest Shopping Malls Compared
Information was compiled from several different sources and so may not be consistent or entirely reliable.


1) South China Mall Dongguan, China

2005

7.1-million (Gross lettable area)
(706,000 sqm)

9.6-million (Total Area)
(891,869 sqm)

1,500 (No of stores)

Currently the largest shopping mall in the world, but it will soon be eclipsed by at least two other Chinese malls.



2) Golden Resources
Shopping Mall
Beijing, China

2004

6.0-million (Gross lettable area)
(560,000sqm)

7.3-million (Total Area)
(680,000sqm)

1,000+ (No of stores)

On 6 levels, located near the Fourth Ring Road, west of Beijing.



3) West Edmonton Mall
West Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 1981 3.8-million

(350,000sqm)
5.3-million (Gross lettable area)

(570,000sqm) (Total Area)

800 (No of stores)

Largest shopping mall in North America; includes indoor wave pool, amusement areas, hotel, restaurants; 20,000 parking spaces. Official site.



4) Beijing Mall
Beijing, China

2005
3.4-million (Gross lettable area)
(320,000sqm)

4.7-million (Total Area)
(440,000sqm)

600 (No of stores)

Has 4 levels of shopping with interior residences; located near Fifth Ring Road, southeast of Beijing.


5) Panda Mall
Chengdu, Sichuan, China

3.2-million (Gross lettable area)
(300,000sqm)

Information on hand is not complete. Official site.




6) Grandview Mall
Guangzhou, China

2005

3.2-million (Gross lettable area)
(280,000sqm)

4.5-million (Total Area)
(420,000)

No details available.




7) South Coast Plaza
Costa Mesa, California, USA

1967

2.7-million (Gross lettable area)
(250,000)

280 (No of stores)

Largest shopping mall in the United States (by gross leaseable area). Official site.




8) Aricanduva Mall
Sao Paulo, Brazil

1991

2.6-million (Gross lettable area)
(242,000sqm)

3.7-million (Total Area)
(342,000sqm)

535 (No of stores)


Largest mall in Brazil; part of a complex of 3 shopping malls with a total area of 11.8-million sq ft.



9)Chia Tai Square
Shanghai, Jiangsu, China

2005

2.6-million (Gross lettable area)
(240,000sqm)



News releases in late 2005 touted it as "Asia's biggest shopping mall," but several other Asian malls appear to be considerably larger.



10) Mall of America
Bloomington, Minnesota,
USA

1992

2.5-million (Gross lettable area)
(230,000sqm)

4.2-million (Total Area)
(390,000sqm)

520 (No of Stores)

Largest shopping mall in the United States (by total area); includes a theme park, entertainment district, and aquarium. Official site.




11) Oriental Plaza
Foshan, Guangdong, China

2.5-million (Gross lettable area)
(230,000sqm)

8.6-million (Total Area)
(800,000sqm)



12) Sawgrass Mills
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, USA

2.5-million
(230,000sqm) (Gross lettable area)

300 (No of stores)

This sprawling, open-air mall, contains mainly discount outlets, along with restaurants, cinemas and other entertainments. Official site.



13) Del Amo Fashion Center
Los Angeles, California, USA

1975

2.5-million (230,000) (Gross lettable area)

300 (No of stores)

Del Amo straddles several blocks in the city of Torrence, part of the Los Angeles metropolitan area. Official site.



14) Mall of the Emirates
Dubai, United Arab Emirates

2005

2.4-million (Gross lettable area)
(225,000)

350 (No of Stores)

One complex in a vast entertainment and consumer-oriented district; encloses a 400-meter indoor ski slope.


Feel free to update this with the latest malls (only with construction or built stage).
WER DID YOU GET THIS DATA? THAT'S NOT SO TRUE.

CHECK THIS LINK FOR THE REAL DATAS: http://www.easternct.edu/depts/amerst/MallsWorld.htm
wafu21m no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 05:14 AM   #53
megatower
BANNED
 
megatower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: chicago
Posts: 1,214
Likes (Received): 34

what about the Burj Dubai mall ?
megatower no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 10:08 AM   #54
garzland
Oragon Ini!
 
garzland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Naga, Lagonoy, Canaman
Posts: 558
Likes (Received): 713

Quote:
Originally Posted by skytalk View Post
World's Largest Shopping Malls Compared
Information was compiled from several different sources and so may not be consistent or entirely reliable.


1) South China Mall Dongguan, China

2005

7.1-million (Gross lettable area)
(706,000 sqm)

9.6-million (Total Area)
(891,869 sqm)

1,500 (No of stores)

Currently the largest shopping mall in the world, but it will soon be eclipsed by at least two other Chinese malls.



2) Golden Resources
Shopping Mall
Beijing, China

2004

6.0-million (Gross lettable area)
(560,000sqm)

7.3-million (Total Area)
(680,000sqm)

1,000+ (No of stores)

On 6 levels, located near the Fourth Ring Road, west of Beijing.



3) West Edmonton Mall
West Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 1981 3.8-million

(350,000sqm)
5.3-million (Gross lettable area)

(570,000sqm) (Total Area)

800 (No of stores)

Largest shopping mall in North America; includes indoor wave pool, amusement areas, hotel, restaurants; 20,000 parking spaces. Official site.



4) Beijing Mall
Beijing, China

2005
3.4-million (Gross lettable area)
(320,000sqm)

4.7-million (Total Area)
(440,000sqm)

600 (No of stores)

Has 4 levels of shopping with interior residences; located near Fifth Ring Road, southeast of Beijing.


5) Panda Mall
Chengdu, Sichuan, China

3.2-million (Gross lettable area)
(300,000sqm)

Information on hand is not complete. Official site.




6) Grandview Mall
Guangzhou, China

2005

3.2-million (Gross lettable area)
(280,000sqm)

4.5-million (Total Area)
(420,000)

No details available.




7) South Coast Plaza
Costa Mesa, California, USA

1967

2.7-million (Gross lettable area)
(250,000)

280 (No of stores)

Largest shopping mall in the United States (by gross leaseable area). Official site.




8) Aricanduva Mall
Sao Paulo, Brazil

1991

2.6-million (Gross lettable area)
(242,000sqm)

3.7-million (Total Area)
(342,000sqm)

535 (No of stores)


Largest mall in Brazil; part of a complex of 3 shopping malls with a total area of 11.8-million sq ft.



9)Chia Tai Square
Shanghai, Jiangsu, China

2005

2.6-million (Gross lettable area)
(240,000sqm)



News releases in late 2005 touted it as "Asia's biggest shopping mall," but several other Asian malls appear to be considerably larger.



10) Mall of America
Bloomington, Minnesota,
USA

1992

2.5-million (Gross lettable area)
(230,000sqm)

4.2-million (Total Area)
(390,000sqm)

520 (No of Stores)

Largest shopping mall in the United States (by total area); includes a theme park, entertainment district, and aquarium. Official site.




11) Oriental Plaza
Foshan, Guangdong, China

2.5-million (Gross lettable area)
(230,000sqm)

8.6-million (Total Area)
(800,000sqm)



12) Sawgrass Mills
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, USA

2.5-million
(230,000sqm) (Gross lettable area)

300 (No of stores)

This sprawling, open-air mall, contains mainly discount outlets, along with restaurants, cinemas and other entertainments. Official site.



13) Del Amo Fashion Center
Los Angeles, California, USA

1975

2.5-million (230,000) (Gross lettable area)

300 (No of stores)

Del Amo straddles several blocks in the city of Torrence, part of the Los Angeles metropolitan area. Official site.



14) Mall of the Emirates
Dubai, United Arab Emirates

2005

2.4-million (Gross lettable area)
(225,000)

350 (No of Stores)

One complex in a vast entertainment and consumer-oriented district; encloses a 400-meter indoor ski slope.


Feel free to update this with the latest malls (only with construction or built stage).

This data somehow outdated... There are lots of malls sprawling around the world especially in tropical countries....
__________________
NAGA - 2nd MOST COMPETITIVE COMPONENT CITY in the Philippines and One of the Philippines' 10 NEXT WAVE CITIES
garzland no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 11:02 AM   #55
Chi649
Registered User
 
Chi649's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,156
Likes (Received): 12

Since this is about malls, I figure I might as well mention Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, IL (suburb of Chicago). It was the largest mall in the world when it opened in the early 1970's and it still is fairly large, with 2.7 million ft2 of retail space. Here a couple of pics




Chi649 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 11:41 AM   #56
wafu21m
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 153
Likes (Received): 6

SM Mall of Asia pics in the philippines

SM Mall of asia, currently the 3rd largest mall in the world. there are still some expansions.











olympic sized ice skating ring











wafu21m no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 01:27 PM   #57
great184
visionary
 
great184's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Miami-Manila-Bohol
Posts: 1,722
Likes (Received): 281

Its also one of the most uneasiest malls to be inside if you are aware of the retrofitting and the uneven strength of its landfilled foundation... The test of MOA will come in a strong quake!! Lets hope that it will stand in that event, for the sake of thousands of mallers that would be inside...
__________________
Arguably, one of the best 3d cities in SSC - South Sea Central

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1536278
great184 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 02:48 PM   #58
AntonAmeneiro
אנטון
 
AntonAmeneiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Oviedo (SPAIN)
Posts: 5
Likes (Received): 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam-Manchester View Post
I don't understand why people want to shop at malls so much- they're so bland and boring, although they are becoming increasingly extravagant as these pictures suggest.
Well, developing countries are using now malls as a symbol to show the world how "developed" they are, so that's why for them it's such a big deal to build the biggest or most opulent mall.

In my opinion, malls are sometimes convenient because as Mr. Denmark pointed out, they do offer some advantages (like extense [and free] parking area), but I still prefer street shopping...
AntonAmeneiro no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 03:13 PM   #59
Sinjin P.
TheLibotero
 
Sinjin P.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: CEBU
Posts: 13,715
Likes (Received): 535

In the Philippines though, a mall has become a second-home, a necessity, rather than a status symbol
Sinjin P. no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 1st, 2007, 03:17 PM   #60
LordCarnal
Filius Dei
 
LordCarnal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,629
Likes (Received): 6



Try to go street shopping in most tropical countries here in Asia or perhaps in the Middle East and you'll see the difference in just a minute or two.

"Malls" wouldn't be popular among Europeans since after all, you have subzero temperature there and obviously wouldn't be needing the airconditioning that we Asians want to enjoy.
LordCarnal no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 07:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu