The BIG HUGE Copenhagen Ørestad Thread | Projects & Construction

[cphdude]

Originally Posted by TORONTOCOPENHAGEN

Take a look at this guys. There is no doubt that the Bella Center Hotel will be built.

http://www2.kk.dk/of/beslut.nsf/ee35...f?OpenDocument

Merry Christmas!

Not so fast cowboy. Bella Center said in a press release today, that the hotel project is officially on hold. A decision was to be made this week, but now a construction start/date is unsure.

It is apparently the new, and much critisised, government proposed tax laws, that may have an influence on the project and is making the congresshall opperator step on the brakes. This could mean that the hotel will not be ready in time for the IOC conference in 2009...

http://www.bellacenter.dk/Bella+Cent...0/newsid/18799

[FREKI]

^ Great, just great... who needs tall buildings anyway... let's all live in foxholes and eat leafs... yum!

[cphdude]

Vi har ikke opgivet vort hotel

"Indtil vi ser det endelig udspil fra regeringen, er vi nødt til at stoppe op," siger adm. direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsen fra Bella Center om det ny hotelbyggeri.

Det store hotelbyggeri ved Bella Center, hvor kontrakterne skulle have været underskrevet i denne uge, er sat på vågeblus på grund af regeringens nye skatteudspil. I lighed med flere andre store projekter. For Bella Center vil det samme gælde for planerne om en multihal.

"Vi skulle i denne uge have underskrevet kontrakterne om starten af byggeriet lige efter sommerferien. Det er nødvendigt på grund af levering af byggemateriale. Nu må vi vente. Ærgerligt, men jeg håber sandelig ikke, at løbet er kørt. Vi har endnu en lille tidsfrist at løbe på, men nu gælder det uger, og ikke måneder," sådan siger adm . direktør Arne Bang Mikkelsen til Take Off, efter beslutningen om at vente på grund af regeringens nye skatteregler.

"Hvis vi kun kan fratrække renterne op til 10 mio. kroner på en sådan investering, hænger det simpelthen ikke sammen. Vi har budgetteret med et driftsunderskud de første år. Vis mig et hotelprojekt i Danmark, som straks giver overskud. Jeg håber vi har en afklaring inden for et par uger, " fortsætter han.

Hotellets første fase med 400 værelse, skal være færdig til olympisk komites møde i august 2009 i Bella Center. Det er en del af aftalen.

http://www.takeoff.dk/news.cfm?nNews...&nNewsId=10424

[TORONTOCOPENHAGEN]

So sorry cowgirl...

But according to the state of things 2 MONTHS ago it appeared that it would be built...

[cphdude]

Originally Posted by TORONTOCOPENHAGEN

So sorry cowgirl...

But according to the state of things 2 MONTHS ago it appeared that it would be built...

Yeah, I know...

Lets hope they get things resolved soon. If we dont get the hotel up for the IOC congress, it will be a huge embaresment, since they basicly promised it to IOC in their bid...

[Urbanus]

There is a new "Statusnotat" from Ørestad about the projects and construction. http://www.orestad.dk/index/erhverv/status.htm

Several new projects I haven't heard of apear. It is nice to see there still is happening a lot there - even though the Bella Center is on hold at the moment.

[Urbanus]

There is also some news about the Cab Inn-hotel designed by Liebeskind.

http://www.business.dk/brancher/deta...el:aid=2027496

15 floors!! Not bad. Looking forward to see the design!!!

[Kristoffer Mogensen]

Originally Posted by TORONTOCOPENHAGEN

I partially agree with you guys. They should have made cafés and snackbars in the lowest floors of the buildings that face the park.

Well, you know how it is in Copenhagen, whenever you come across a suitable site for a sidewalk café, you'll find it occupied by a bank, an estate agent or an undertaker. Or just a wall. Actually, the south-facing north side of the park must be a very sunny place, which is a trivial fact that did not seem to bother neither the planners, nor the architechts.

regards,
Kristoffer Mogensen

[onetwothree]

I agree (yeah, that's so easy to say). Personally, the more I see completed of the Ørestad, the less excited I am about it. Sure it might be nice, modern architecture, but I don't find it appealing at all. The life is missing. And it doesn't even have a decent skyline (yet?).

I hope they won't make the same mistake once they start developing the Carlsberg site

[Rosinmanden]

Originally Posted by Kristoffer Mogensen

Well, you know how it is in Copenhagen, whenever you come across a suitable site for a sidewalk café, you'll find it occupied by a bank, an estate agent or an undertaker. Or just a wall. Actually, the south-facing north side of the park must be a very sunny place, which is a trivial fact that did not seem to bother neither the planners, nor the architechts.

regards,
Kristoffer Mogensen

The lower floors on some of the building sorrounding the park are supoosed to conain kiosks and cafés, but maybe they just haven sold any yet.

Maybe when more people move out there, they´ll start popping up

[acebone]

I think we need to be a bit patient. During 2007 around 1000 more flats will be finished around the park. There are planned to be cafes in Parkhusene, Sejlhuset and inside the park and I know they are working on a plan for a new design of the park. I think that next spring life will have come to Ørestad.

[Hviid]

/\ Let's hope so

Welcome to the forum BTW!

[EDK_DK]

I think we need to be a bit patient. During 2007 around 1000 more flats will be finished around the park. There are planned to be cafes in Parkhusene, Sejlhuset and inside the park and I know they are working on a plan for a new design of the park. I think that next spring life will have come to Ørestad.

Agree - I remember seeing some renderings (somewhere) for the park in Ø-City.. A bit like "Torvehallerne" on Israels Plads.

mlm:
insted of the current "Gellerup Parken" look it currently feels like. Just my opinion of course..

Ahh - that's a scary comparison. I don't think it will turn out that bad.. first of all Ø-City will become much more dence than Gellerup. And the architecture is varied from block to block opposite the "ghetto" in Århus..

It is apparently the new, and much critisised, government proposed tax laws, that may have an influence on the project and is making the congresshall opperator step on the brakes. This could mean that the hotel will not be ready in time for the IOC conference in 2009...

Typical..The most beautiful project in Copenhagen for years - ON HOLD - From now on I'll call everything taller than 15 floors "A Vision" until the last floor is finished.
Actually "metropolis" is a good example. The height was lowered some 20 m in the last minute because of the nearby B&W chimney...

[cphdude]

Yep. It sucks....But for once, it was not the nimby's that "killed" the project, if indeed it is dead...I hope not. But lets hope it will happen. They said that they might know something in a few weeks....

[Urbanus]

Originally Posted by EDK_DK

Typical..The most beautiful project in Copenhagen for years - ON HOLD - From now on I'll call everything taller than 15 floors "A Vision" until the last floor is finished.
Actually "metropolis" is a good example. The height was lowered some 20 m in the last minute because of the nearby B&W chimney...

Very goddam typical. Also it seems very likely that the Tivoli Hotel will not be approved. There seems to be majority against it at the City hall. Venstre have already announced they're against. I'm tired of that party - they are against almost all development and projects in Copenhagen - unless there is a bribe involved ofcourse...

[mlm]

Originally Posted by EDK_DK

Ahh - that's a scary comparison. I don't think it will turn out that bad.. first of all Ø-City will become much more dence than Gellerup. And the architecture is varied from block to block opposite the "ghetto" in Århus..

Okay okay, of course it's not Gjellerup Parken (not even close), but I'm sure you know what I mean... Big blocks with "empty" green areas between them. But hopefully it'll be a lot better when things get more developed out there. Finally though, I'm not so sure it'll be "much more dense" than Gjellerup, which is actually quite dense, with the almost endless big concrete blocks. I know, since that's the view I woke up to every day, the 2 years I lived there

Anyway, I cross my fingers and hope Ørestaden will turn out vibrant, lively and urban in the end.

[ØlandDK]

Interesting slideshow from Berlingske.dk:

http://www.berlingske.dk/upload/webr...H/2007/story3/

[ØlandDK]

It's in danish...

[acebone]

I think we will have the bella towers in Ørestad after all:

Hoteltårne i Ørestad
I den nærmeste fremtid vil Ørestad få et nyt vartegn i form af to hotel- og kongrescentertårne kaldet Bella Hotels. Bella Center står for opførelsen og driften i nær samarbejde med en endnu ukendt international hotelkæde. Arkitektfirmaet 3xNielsen står bag byggeriet, der vil rumme Nordens største hotel med 800 værelser samt et kongrescenter. Tårnene er på hver 75 meter, og fra 23. etage kan man komme til at nyde udsigten fra hotellets restaurant og skybar. Byggeriet vil blive opført i to etaper med planlagt start til sommer og forventet indvielse af det ene tårn i 2009.

Børsen 22/03/2007

[FREKI]

Sweet!