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Old October 27th, 2014, 12:46 PM   #201
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Do not want to offend anyone.
Is it true that the Great Wall of China at the initial stage consisted of packed earth?
Perhaps only this can explain that the Mongol invaders somehow overcame her.

Here's some more food for thought.
It turns out that tourists usually show a section of the Great Wall, located 60 km north-west of Beijing. This is the area of Mount Badaling (Badaling), the length of the wall is 50 km away. The wall is in excellent condition, which is not surprising - its reconstruction at the site was carried out in the 50s of the 20th century. In fact, the wall was rebuilt, although states that on the old foundations."

If the wall was in such a state, as in the photo, why Japanese do not have arranged her line of defense?
Why her memoirs do not mention in his memoirs? In the end I did not manage to find a wall of photos taken before the fiftieth year of the twentieth century.
Maybe the point is that the Great Wall has evolved into ruins or, simpler, its never existed?
Maybe the Great wall of China consisted of a chain of earthen ramparts and fortresses of clay?
And tourists show a clear new building near Beijing.


I present to you what we found.
Apparently this is the real Great Wall of China:

As you can see with your own eyes is very different from that built specifically for tourists.
The wall was built over the course of over 2000 years, from the Zhou to the Qing dynasties. It was constantly upgraded and repaired over the years, some parts are in better condition than others. The early wall was built from packed earth, but during the Ming, most of the wall in the eastern part of China was renovated in brick.

The Badaling section was RENOVATED in the '50s, not rebuilt. There are plenty of pictures of the Great Wall before the 1950s, you need to learn how to use Google.


1936


1902


Sometime before 1911, picture from Wikipedia

Also, if all the masonry portions were built after 1950 like you suspect, what explains ruined portions like this? Did sixty years of weathering do this?



As to the Great Wall never existing... I don't even know how to answer that. Yes, all Chinese people are involved in a huge plot to fool you into thinking they built this thing when it's just a big hoax... and pssst, by the way the world is actually flat! Gimme a break.

Many of these questions you have been asking recently can be answered by a quick visit to Wikipedia. Knowledge is power my friend.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 10:24 AM   #202
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I asked the professor from Boston, what he thinks about it.
He says that perhaps old photos obvious fake.
Anyone can dress up in old clothes and use old camera to take a picture on the wall background.
If the wall was in such a state, why it has not been mentioned in the stories of the Japanese militarists?
Japanese troops near Beijing simply not noticed the wall?
If before 1950 the whole wall was in ruins?
Or walls have never been?
And another version-Great Wall of China was built in 1950 from the remains other buildings.
Only this can explain the old age of the building material.
Can The Great Wall is one of mankind another hoax? How Gardens of Babylon?
Just hype?
I'll tell you a story.
The story took place in ancient Greece.
"In ancient Athens lived a respected citizen named Pariklos.
One day our hero was sent to conclude a peace treaty with Sparta.
Sparta was the worst enemy of Athens.
Pariklos speak to an audience in the main hall of Sparta.
"Athenian democracy the most wonderful thing in the world.
Other countries are not the bulwark of democracy.
They need the Athenian democracy.
A peace treaty with Athens will bring a peaceful life."- he said.
Suddenly one Spartan jumped up, ran to Pariklos and mechanically plucked from his head wig.
Throwing a wig on the floor,the Spartan gave a speech:

"What truth can say is this man?
If he's cheating not only in the heart and on the tongue, but on the head? "

Our hero was expelled in disgrace from the city."

The story ended, but the deception and the lies continue in our time.
Why residents of Maryland refused to hear the speech of Barack Obama?
Because all his words are nothing but lies.
All of his presidential term, he lied to his people and the world.
Liars that he and his government.
Donald Trump was right.
Barack Obama and his government are guilty of the deaths of civilians in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and South-East of Ukraine.
Barack Obama and his government in the blood of innocent people of these countries.
Barack Obama and his government is the murderer.

I am ashamed that we have such a President.
I curse Barack Obama and his government.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 10:51 AM   #203
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I wonder how difficult it may be to build The Great Wall lasting thousands of miles......Great thread and all are nice pictures......!
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The Great Wall Revisited
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Great-Wa.../dp/0711228930

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https://www.google.co.uk/search?neww...29.z31yaqOCfD0








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DSC_0144 copy by photolitherland, on Flickr
Photo from when I visited the Great Wall in 2007 at Jinshanling.
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