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Old August 20th, 2005, 10:05 AM   #401
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Singapore's Mass Rapid Transit (MRT)

MRT Map today:


MRT Map in the future:

It looks like the London Underground! lol. Looks like spagetti that is splased all over.

















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Old August 20th, 2005, 11:16 PM   #402
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Nice Singapore's!!

But not similar to London tube.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 03:25 AM   #403
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What do you mean Canada's largest metro system? First of all Vancouver's RAV is not a metro, it's a form of Light Rapid Transit and second of all, Toronto's and Montreal's subway system is far larger and more comprehensive than a toy like train running on elevated tracks. Third of all, a metro is to a very large extent underground, Vancouver's RAV is an above grade glorified streetcar don't try to even compare it to the big boys in Montreal and Tdot.
Don't try to fool the world by saying that it's the biggest, sure it's nice, but it will be always THIRD.
Please understand the subject at hand before you begin to ramble on. Vancouver's SkyTrain is completely grade-separated (the RAV will be too, the subject of much controversy), and the trains run at a pretty decent frequency (no worse than TO or MTL), so for all intents and purposes, it is a metro system.

And just because a system is largely above ground doesn't make it any less of a metro. By your criterion, I assume you don't consider Chicago's system a metro either.

For all I know, Vancouver's system *might* be the longest in terms of track length once the RAV is completed (can someone provide some figures?). But I definitely agree that calling it "Canada's Largest Metro System" is misleading. Certainly Toronto and Montreal are in front of Vancouver in terms of ridership.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 03:30 AM   #404
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That proposed system for Singapore looks pretty impressive. What's the timeline for the new lines?
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 06:08 AM   #405
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Isn't a metro a heavy rail line? The Skytrain is definitely not heavy rail. It is somewhat an in-between between heavy and light.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 08:26 AM   #406
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Better finish the job.

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Melbourne Train Network
A Connex XTraolis train.


The Melbourne tram network.


Detail of tram network in the CBD.


Siemens tram.


Another Melbourne tram.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 11:32 AM   #407
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That proposed system for Singapore looks pretty impressive. What's the timeline for the new lines?
Well currently, the Circle Line is being built to serve the outer regions that are not served by the MRT. CL also links all 3 line togerther so that ppl so not need to change trains in the city. The Circle Line is excpected to be completed by 2008 I think. After the circle line will most likely be Eastern Region Line or the Bukit Timah Line. Infomation is a bit scetchy at the moment. The Sentosa Express is now being constructed and the Changi Airport Skytrain will be finished when Terminal 3 is ready.The government has not announced which line will be built after the Circle Line. They have been tight liped about it. But the routes are likely to reamain the same once they have planned everything out.But I think the order will be like this:

East West Line Extension
Circle Line
Eastern Region Line
Bukit Timah Line
Downtown Extension
North Coast Line
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 11:40 PM   #408
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Thanks for the info, Leichestern.

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Isn't a metro a heavy rail line? The Skytrain is definitely not heavy rail. It is somewhat an in-between between heavy and light.
I was using the definition on UrbanRail.net:
http://www.urbanrail.net/about.htm#definition

But what you said about its capacity is true.
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Old August 24th, 2005, 11:12 PM   #410
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LOS ANGELES

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Old August 25th, 2005, 08:15 PM   #411
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You can also visit my Sao Paulo Metro Gallery at www.urbanrail.net, look in the Sao Paulo section.

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Old August 26th, 2005, 12:25 PM   #413
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Old August 26th, 2005, 05:51 PM   #414
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New tramway model in Paris?
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Old August 26th, 2005, 11:06 PM   #415
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What needs to be asked is what defines the term 'metro'? Sure Skytrain isn't heavy rail, it's a form of light rail rapid transit. But it is definitely not light rail like a tram or streetcar. It's faster (upto 90km) with third rail technology like a metro, elevated and underground like a metro, separate from roads like all metros, with trains that run at peak every 2 mins. The new 25 km line will be mostly underground(similar to Chicago's underground length) using a technology unknown right now but most certainly similar to Skytrain or possibly heavier. I think Skytrain earns the term metro.

UrbanRail's 'metro' definition sums it up perfectly -

1) An urban electric mass rail transport system, i.e. it is primarily used to move within the city
2) Totally independent from other traffic, rail or street traffic
3) High frequency service (maximum interval approx. 10 minutes during normal daytime service)

Also from UrbanRail - Obviously a metro does not have to be underground (this is why I prefer this term to 'subway' or 'underground' or 'U-Bahn' as all these terms imply a tunnel), it can also be elevated or at grade. A metro does not necessarily use heavy rail technology, therefore the Docklands Light Railway or the Lille VAL are full metro services, with the only difference that their capacity is smaller according to the needs of the city/area they serve.

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New tramway model in Paris?
this is ligne T2 tramway model

Lyon metro system (france

4 metro lignes (3 rubber ligne) (1 automatic)
2 funicular lignes
2 tramway lignes + 2 lignes under in construction

metro train ligne a and b


ligne c

ligne d

tramway t1 and t2
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Old August 27th, 2005, 01:24 AM   #417
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I really like the trains of Lyon metro!!

They are so "retro"...
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Old August 29th, 2005, 01:01 AM   #418
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^How likely is that to be built, and when?
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I'm sure you've never seen this.
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^wow, is that to scale. It looks different from the official one.
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