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Old November 22nd, 2005, 10:44 PM   #481
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 09:33 AM   #482
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Metropolitan Melbourne trains and trams:
This is everything within the three ticketing zones, drawn to scale. I was going to put stations in, but there's 200 of them. And there is no giant coverage hole in the south - that's Port Phillip Bay.

Blue = electrified suburban rail
Red = diesel services
Green = trams and light rail


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Old November 23rd, 2005, 06:46 PM   #483
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Agree! awesome...
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 07:39 PM   #484
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The Melbourne one from invincible is also pretty cool. What I would love to see, is it with all the stations, including the Tram stops.

Now, the tram stops would be a problem, as if I remember correctly Melbourne has a large number of "half" stops, where say, stop "19" is for traffic only in one direction, and then a bit further up the road stop "20" is for the tram on the other side of the road.
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 07:48 PM   #485
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San Jose has a lot of those, because the section between the roadway in a lot of locations isnt wide enough to fit the two tracks and the two platforms, only 1. So the stations are staggered down the street to fit everything
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:18 PM   #486
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There are a ring line in Paris subway but it separated in two ligne

look at line 2 and line 6


In Paris subway project of 1898 line 2 and 6 are a ring line (ligne B)
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 08:40 PM   #487
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Actually, the organisation of the Parisian subway is simpler than it looks, if you consider the 6 first lines:

2 east/west parallel lines (1 and 3)
2 north/south parrallel lines (4 and 5)
2 lines making a ring (2 and 6)

the rest are diagonals and semi circles.

it would looks very clear on a schematic map, instead of the actual realistic map.

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Old November 23rd, 2005, 10:09 PM   #488
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Paris subway maps

Map Metro RER Commuter train Tram


Map metro 1937
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Old November 23rd, 2005, 10:16 PM   #489
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Actually, the organisation of the Parisian subway is simpler than it looks, if you consider the 6 first lines:

2 east/west parallel lines (1 and 3)
2 north/south parrallel lines (4 and 5)
2 lines making a ring (2 and 6)

the rest are diagonals and semi circles.

it would looks very clear on a schematic map, instead of the actual realistic map.
line 4 and 5 parrallel (two line parrallel don't be connected at same station )
lines 4 and 5 are connected at Gare De L'Est Station
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Old November 24th, 2005, 01:36 AM   #490
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There are a ring line in Paris subway but it separated in two ligne

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In Paris subway project of 1898 line 2 and 6 are a ring line (ligne B)
Actually, line 2 and line 6 have always been thought as independent lines, never as a ring. However, you're indeed right that in the first years they were respectively called "2Nord" (2North) for line 2 and "2Sud" (2South) for line 6. And there was also the idea to make trains circulating in circle. However, that plan has finally been considered as too complicate and a system with all trains sharing the same road has been considered as more efficient (trains circulating exclusively on one line and stopping at each stations).

Finally, the line 2South became firstly the line 5 (as you can see on the 1937 map you'v posted) before becoming the line 6 during the German occupation.


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it would looks very clear on a schematic map, instead of the actual realistic map.
According to most Parisians, the metro is very clear simply because it's mostly made of single line with trains stopping at each stations. And it's really not that hard to get the map in mind. However, the generic map of the metro is actually a scheme, not realistic at all. You can try if you want to simplify the scheme, but you'll realize fast that it's almost impossible because of the connections between lines that you have to respect.

If you check well, the lines on the last metro map has only 45° angles turn. That's not realistic, it was made in order to simplify the map. Distances between stations aren't realistic either. However, it was made in order to be as simple as possible.

Just for fun, here's an independent version of Paris network. It looks even more complicated than ever : Urban Rail's metro map of Paris

Even as a Parisian I feel lost !
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Old November 24th, 2005, 02:20 AM   #491
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The Melbourne one from invincible is also pretty cool. What I would love to see, is it with all the stations, including the Tram stops.

Now, the tram stops would be a problem, as if I remember correctly Melbourne has a large number of "half" stops, where say, stop "19" is for traffic only in one direction, and then a bit further up the road stop "20" is for the tram on the other side of the road.
Stations are easily done, but tram stops would probably involve me actually having to travel along each route. I've got plenty of time, but that sure isn't going to be one of my priorities.

The only thing that's really holding me back is that the PSD file I'm working with has become extremely large and every single process takes ages. I did the map using a street directory as an underlay which results in my 400mb PSD.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 07:39 AM   #492
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^Really cool map Tram stops would be neat, but in my opinion they would clutter the map too much. On the other hand, you can flatten the map you have now (if you are sure everything is how you want) and start adding stations to the suburban rail, and labels.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 08:03 AM   #493
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Old November 24th, 2005, 10:04 AM   #494
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Stations are easily done, but tram stops would probably involve me actually having to travel along each route. I've got plenty of time, but that sure isn't going to be one of my priorities.

The only thing that's really holding me back is that the PSD file I'm working with has become extremely large and every single process takes ages. I did the map using a street directory as an underlay which results in my 400mb PSD.
Actually, the street directories would have the tram stops, at least Melway does. One would have to consolidate those double stops, i.e. one stop marked "19/20" to simplify the map.

The only problem is time. I wanted to do such a map as well, but I can't see me ever having time as well.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 04:24 PM   #495
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line 4 and 5 parrallel (two line parrallel don't be connected at same station )
lines 4 and 5 are connected at Gare De L'Est Station
apart from that it is, if you look at it as a scheme... for the user i am lines 4 and 5 mean north/south.
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Old November 24th, 2005, 08:13 PM   #496
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apart from that it is, if you look at it as a scheme... for the user i am lines 4 and 5 mean north/south.
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Old November 26th, 2005, 06:37 AM   #497
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Actually, the street directories would have the tram stops, at least Melway does. One would have to consolidate those double stops, i.e. one stop marked "19/20" to simplify the map.

The only problem is time. I wanted to do such a map as well, but I can't see me ever having time as well.
Nope, the most recent of the Melways does not appear to show tram stops. I'm using the online edition, since it's easy to use the script to generate 3500x3500 sections of map - http://www.street-directory.com.au/sd_new/mapsearch.cgi

What I did do was add stations, but it's made the image a lot larger because of the font size I had to use in order to fit the names in.
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Nice map urge!
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