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Old May 1st, 2010, 07:13 PM   #1181
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 12:24 AM   #1182
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Work in progress: my New York Subway map.

I wanted to distinguish more clearly between the various local and express services, which is rather difficult with the official Map. So, I drew parallel local and express services as two distinct lines, combining different routes that use the same track into one line. If two services with different route colours share the same track, they are shown with thinner lines (e.g. the Queens Boulevard or Central Park West lines):

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Old May 4th, 2010, 12:08 PM   #1183
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wow. Amazing map dude. Illustrator?
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Old May 4th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #1184
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Yes, I used Illustrator.

The map itself is based on an older map I made in MS Paint, six years ago:



In the mean time, an update, with all station names filled. Please let me know if I missed any - it's quite the task to fill some 450+ station names

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Old May 4th, 2010, 04:06 PM   #1185
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Well, i can't say anything else than : you're really good !
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Old May 4th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #1186
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This is certainly the best approach I have seen to get this overly complex metro system into one handy map. There is just one thing, however. The stations for express services on the IND Concourse Line doesn't match with other source.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #1187
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This is certainly the best approach I have seen to get this overly complex metro system into one handy map.
Thanks I've had the idea for a local/express-distinction based map for quite some time now, but only recently found the time to actually put it all together.

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There is just one thing, however. The stations for express services on the IND Concourse Line doesn't match with other source.
Ah, yes, that one is still on the 'to do' pile (which only seems to get bigger, somehow ). I'm not even sure if I will designate the Concourse Line as a true local/express line, since the express service only runs in one direction. The same applies to the Flushing (7) and Pelham (6) lines. I'd like to distinguish those 'diamond' services from the regular express services, but still have to figure out how.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 08:47 AM   #1188
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Vignelli would be pleased with your map. New Yorkers would bitch that the streets don't exactly match up.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #1189
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Yes, well...though I don't actually live there, I think most New Yorkers wouldn't even care. First of all, most don't consult a map every day, simply because they have a standard trip they make every day. And for the ones that do use the map, most probably wouldn't even notice that stations on the same street don't match up, and if they did, they wouldn't make such a big deal out of it.
I think that the few that do care decided to raise their voices in the late 1970's, acting as though they were representing the general public opinion. It's probably just politics after all that killed the Vignelli map. Too bad, I really liked it.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #1190
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St. Petersburg metro map with Moscow metro map design
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Old May 7th, 2010, 05:21 PM   #1191
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It's extremely well done IMHO, but do yourself a favor and make a quick change to the font (should be able to change the lot on one go no?) You sholud put it into Helvetica or Akzidenz Grotesque the NYC Subway fonts. It would make all the difference!!

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Old May 7th, 2010, 05:32 PM   #1192
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It's extremely well done IMHO, but do yourself a favor...
Myself...or you?

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...and make a quick change to the font (should be able to change the lot on one go no?) You sholud put it into Helvetica or Akzidenz Grotesque the NYC Subway fonts. It would make all the difference!!
OK, I'll give it a try, see what it turns out like. However, I've used the Century Gothic font for two other maps as well, and I must say I really like the feel of it:


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Old May 7th, 2010, 09:07 PM   #1193
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Old May 8th, 2010, 12:21 PM   #1194
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@Alargule
The NY map is great! Much clearer than the MTA map!
I'd like to print it but the dark background would eat up all my ink. How about a white-background version?
Line numbers would be of value.
I agree with MarkO about the font.
Maybe it's also the font, but some of the hyphens should be dashes.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #1195
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Thanks for all the (positive) feedback so far, guys

I don't have Helvetica or Akzidenz Grotesque installed, so I'll have to download those.

I'm working on the route bullets and the last finishing touches, which is probably going to be a few evenings work.

A white-background version might be a good idea for a printer-friendly version, but the dark grey background gives it a more stylish look That, and it makes the lines stand out more clearly.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 11:38 PM   #1196
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Update:
  • Included route bullets at terminal stations and in lines;
  • Added rush hour express services in the Bronx and Queens (three-track lines);
  • Made various tweaks.

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Still to do:
  • Add legend;
  • See what difference Helvetica/Akzidenz Grotesque makes;
  • Make a version with a white/light background;
  • Various other tweaks and checks.
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Old May 11th, 2010, 12:00 AM   #1197
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OK, the first "final" version, with legend included:



See if you can spot all the differences with the previous map
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Old May 11th, 2010, 02:07 PM   #1198
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For completeness, how about including a small Staten Island with the SIR in the lower left corner and moving the legend to the right?
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Old May 12th, 2010, 01:35 AM   #1199
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That's a really nice map of New York's subway, but you're missing two details: a stop for the Q train at Canal St. and the connection between the 8th Ave. Line and the others at Times Square.
I second micro's sentiment. Actually, if anyone were so bold as to to create a regional map for New York, like many of the maps from Europe or Japan, that would be awesome!
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That's already been done

I don't think I will include SIR. Yes, it's run by the MTA and yes, it has the same function for Staten Island as the NYC Subway has for the other boroughs, but it's not in any way directly linked to the Subway system. Maybe if they'd build that tunnel between 86 St Bklyn and Staten Island...
Still lots of other things to do, like correcting some errors, like the ones you already pointed out to me. I also saw I forgot to add Lawrence St station between Court St and DeKalb Av on the R line.
I'm not too satisfied with the layout in Downtown, either. The area between 14 St and say 4 St takes up too much space without any stations in between. Downtown itself is cramped, which leaves me with station names I had to squeeze in. The stations along Central Park and in Harlem need to be lined up, and the plotting of the Fulton St line (A/C lines) between Fulton St (Manhattan) and Lafayette Av (Bklyn) is incorrect (Jay St and Hoyt/Schermerhorn Sts are both located south of DeKalb Av, instead of north, as the map suggests).
I have used transfer station symbols at 36 St (Bklyn) and Queens Plaza, where I should have used simple station symbols.
And so on. Anyway, still lots of work to be done, and I won't be doing any of it soon, since I'll be on a holiday trip for the next 2 1/2 weeks.

So I'm sorry guys, but no updates until the beginning of June
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