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Old May 14th, 2015, 03:17 AM   #1541
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Old May 14th, 2015, 03:21 AM   #1542
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Old May 14th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #1543
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Ugh. Isn't it about time the 'Overground' brand got integrated into the 'Underground' brand, using the same naming and colour coding convention? That would at least create the feel of a single integrated urban rail network for London...
I don't think it should.
Overground has a lower frequency and comes across as a cheap sbahn rather than a cheap ubahn.

DLR is a better candidate for conversion into a Tube line, as it is essentially a ubahn line except with cheaper construction. It always struck me as a pre-ubahn construction, waiting for an upgrade.

The overground strikes me as a future sbahn, mid-to-high frequency trains serving suburban areas. Overground should take over stoppimg services in the metro area, while intertown and commuter services should be given over to 'RER'.
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Old May 17th, 2015, 11:06 PM   #1544
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This is the current official scheme from Warsaws Public Transport Authority site:

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Looks just as bad. Lacking both in style and coherence.
However, I do love those local convex-shaped street plans that stand in some areas of Warsaw, especially at night with the back-lighting.

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Brenda goats On the Warsaw map, it's pretty hard to compress surface and underground all on one map.
Wouldn't have to be a problem, just needs to be designed in a great way, as with anything.

That black and white version of the London tube map you presented is perfectly legible.
The problem is that its a bit dead looking, colour obviously introduces life and visual interest.
Besides, these days everything is full-colour printed or available online so a black and white tube map is redundant.
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Old May 26th, 2015, 05:39 PM   #1545
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Transport for London (TfL) has uploaded the official Tube map (a.k.a. "TfL rail map" 'cause it's now far beyond just showing the "tube" network). It has a real-time SVG for showing latest service status. (The PDF files in the linked page are probably not updated yet, so download this one for updated PDF version.) Sadly the SVG was poorly converted from its source file, likely Adobe Illustrator, and several glitches make the SVG map look so amateurish: District line's Olympia branch and Emirates cable car disappear enigmatically; station labels overlap the rail lines because no font-family, font-size or text-anchor have been defined whatsoever!

oobrien on Reddit created a html shell to contain the raw SVG source for better rendition.

I did my own fix which primarily focuses on the canvas size and font style. I leave the rest as is because otherwise it would take much more time and I only want to invest minimal effort into it. Surprisingly Arial of 4.5px font-size fits snugly, not completely perfectly, but still.
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Old May 26th, 2015, 05:58 PM   #1546
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Way better. Although I'm still having seconds thoughts on the onslaught of Overground lines. All in orange.
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Old May 27th, 2015, 01:49 PM   #1547
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Olympia Branch is back on the status map, but it is clear that they had to redo the whole map because of the new services. This is also why changes to the Central line have been made in advance of the main part of Crossrail.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 09:20 AM   #1548
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This is how my (unofficial) TfL rail map would have looked like if each Overground line is given different livery color.
I also changed the route names of all LO lines as well as separating Liverpool Street-Enfield Town/Chesthunt/Chingford into 2 lines
because route to/from Chingford does not stop by London Fields and Cambridge Heath.


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Formal version:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...ssrail_map.svg

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Official Tube map (SVG) with my Overground color scheme
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Old May 28th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #1549
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Still, now the Tube map is very orange.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #1550
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route to/from Chingford does not stop by London Fields and Cambridge Heath.
Most of the time, anyway...

You don't see semi-fast/fast Met line trains marked on the main map, so I don't think it's a problem.

Of course, you would have to say something on the in-car line diagrams, because unlike Battersea Park, or Barking-Willesden Junction LL, or the Cheshunt fasts, etc, it is more than a couple of times a day. And obviously you'd make it clear when announcing/indicating the train that it skips those stops.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 01:10 PM   #1551
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Great map, Sameboat, and way clearer than the official version.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 02:17 PM   #1552
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Olympia Branch is back on the status map, but it is clear that they had to redo the whole map because of the new services. This is also why changes to the Central line have been made in advance of the main part of Crossrail.
I checked the SVG source again and the Dangleway is still there. My guess is TfL is still testing live status report in the SVG map and the system isn't quite ready yet. Once it's fully functional, section of disrupted service would either disappear or blink.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #1553
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This is how my (unofficial) TfL rail map would have looked like if each Overground line is given different livery color.
I also changed the route names of all LO lines as well as separating Liverpool Street-Enfield Town/Chesthunt/Chingford into 2 lines
because route to/from Chingford does not stop by London Fields and Cambridge Heath.
Nice map! Does anyone know why the connection between Seven Sisters and South Tottenham does not appear on the official map?
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Old May 28th, 2015, 05:11 PM   #1554
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Nice map! Does anyone know why the connection between Seven Sisters and South Tottenham does not appear on the official map?
Thank you. Apparently the graphist of the official Tube map is so resilient to changing the existing Victoria line drastically. It is still possible, but you will end up with a barbell much longer than Bank-Monument for joining the 2 stations instead of the usual shorter dumbbell.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 01:39 PM   #1555
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@Sameboat.

Some interesting elements to the design but I feel that Crossrail should have been afforded more prominence.
It just looks a bit too faint and veering towards insignificance, especially with the strong colours of the underground lines around it, getting lost in the jungle.

I think black dots would give the Crossrail line prominence, that is dots rather than interrupted lines which could suggest a planned or 'under construction' phase.

Other than that I can't really fault it. Impressive bit of work.
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Some interesting elements to the design but I feel that Crossrail should have been afforded more prominence.
It just looks a bit too faint and veering towards insignificance, especially with the strong colours of the underground lines around it, getting lost in the jungle
Why give an under-construction line prominence?
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Old May 30th, 2015, 08:34 PM   #1557
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Thank you. Apparently the graphist of the official Tube map is so resilient to changing the existing Victoria line drastically. It is still possible, but you will end up with a barbell much longer than Bank-Monument for joining the 2 stations instead of the usual shorter dumbbell.
Great map - how would the zones fit into it - I wouldn't even know where to start.
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Why give an under-construction line prominence?
Sameboat's map is future-proofed. So what you see is a map of the network with Crossrail already in operation.

My point is Sameboat depicts Crossrail as a service of secondary value or somehow less important than the other lines (as if it were a canal route for barges for example). The reason it looks secondary is because it doesn't visually stand out much. Black dots for instance, would give it the prominence it deserves whereas interrupted lines would male it look as if it were still under construction.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 02:23 AM   #1559
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The latest tube map appears to be preparing for Crossrail:


May 2015 poster Underground map by bowroaduk, on Flickr
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Sameboat's map is future-proofed. So what you see is a map of the network with Crossrail already in operation.
No. Future-proofed doesn't mean 'from the future', but 'ready for the future'. This map shows today's network, including (shown differently) the bits under-construction.

Now sure, when Sameboat made it, it was a future map, but that future was short-term, and is here today.

The TfL map is half-future-proofed for Crossrail - you'll notice, especially in eastern zone 1, that lines' shapes have been altered to help give a straight line. It's not fully future-proofed as Paddington and Ealing Broadway will need moving, but a lot of the map has been altered to allow Crossrail to easily fit on the map (even if they haven't drawn it on there yet)
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Because on the map it is under construction!

Look at the Croxley link and the Battersea branch of the Northern line. Both shown differently to the existing Met/Northern lines and both shown with the same paler and piped line...

Look at the key and see that there is TfL Rail (Crossrail) and a 'future extension' variant of that...
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