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Old March 9th, 2016, 03:32 PM   #1721
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Thanks @Alargule, next are Madrid and Hanoi bus systems. Way more difficult to map than metro.
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Old March 10th, 2016, 12:33 PM   #1722
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The World's 15 Most Complex Subway Maps

http://www.citylab.com/commute/2016/...-paris/470565/
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Old March 10th, 2016, 12:41 PM   #1723
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This is incorrect. It's not about what's the most complex MAP, but about which city has got the most complex SYSTEM. For some reason this research has been understood incorrectly by many around.
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Old March 10th, 2016, 05:32 PM   #1724
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The more complex the system, the more complex the map.
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Old March 10th, 2016, 09:36 PM   #1725
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Depends on who builds the map. Sometimes a very complex system can be rendered as organized and legible, sometimes on the contrary a very well designed and simple system can be shown as an inextricable mess.

Our minds are not purely maths, that would be too simple, there's something about spirit.
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Old March 19th, 2016, 03:22 AM   #1726
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How the currently under construction Sydney Metro Northwest line (purple) will look on the new combined trains/metro map. It will eventually extend down towards the city circle in the bottom right and cut through the centre of it.

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Old March 19th, 2016, 03:56 PM   #1727
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Oh, so the lines now got finally numbers? Would be nice... or it's still only the number for the group of lines?
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Old March 20th, 2016, 04:20 AM   #1728
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Depends on who builds the map. Sometimes a very complex system can be rendered as organized and legible, sometimes on the contrary a very well designed and simple system can be shown as an inextricable mess.
This. There is a definite art to the representation of a map. A major part of cartography is aesthetics, to effectively communicate spatial information and reduce complexity/clutter.
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Old April 10th, 2016, 02:37 PM   #1729
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Check this out!

http://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_in...maps-for-sale/
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Old May 14th, 2016, 07:25 AM   #1730
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One must be very bored to attempt this thing in text editor. That's me.

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Old May 14th, 2016, 08:06 AM   #1731
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You could put Central at the centre of the map...
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Old May 14th, 2016, 10:59 AM   #1732
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Tyne and Wear Metro (serving cities of Newcastle and Gateshead)

First light-rail system in the UK

Here are the actual "Metro Maps" for the Newcastle upon Tyne Metro, as it evolved (in stages) over the years, prior to and since it first opened in August 1980 . . .


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The TYNE AND WEAR METRO Map . . .



The Tyne and Wear Metro opened in stages, from August 1980 onward. These (now rare) early maps reflect the system as it gradually opened, and also includes two "pre-opening" versions of the MAP. Below we therefore show The evolution of the METRO MAP from 1969 to the present day.

Many of us are familiar with the famous 'diagramatic' style Metro Map, on the walls of station platforms, etc. But, we often don't notice the subtle changes that have been made to it, over the years. Mind, some of the changes have not exactly been 'subtle' as the map responded (in the early years of the Metro, particularly) to the ever-expanding system, as new stretches were opened, post 11th August 1980 . . .

1 - 1969 (Pre-system opening) the original Tyneside PTE proposed route, from "Rapid Transit for Tyneside" published by Tyneside PTE



2 - 1971 (still pre-opening) and the 'diagramatic' map first appears. NOTE, the station called 'Osborne', in between West Jesmond and Jesmond stations. This map is from 'Public Transport on Tyneside, a Plan for the People', by Tyneside PTE.



3 - 10th August 1980, the Metro opens and its first public-use map shows that only the 'Haymarket to Tynemouth' (Yellow Line) stretch is open.



4 - April 1981, the 'Haymarket to Bank Foot' stretch (Green Line) opens



5 - October 1981, The Metro bridge opens (Royal opening on 6th November) and the lines extend through Monument (for the first time) and on to Heworth. The 'Red Line' for peak day-time journies, is also added to the map.



6 - 1982, the riverside part of the Yellow Line from Tynemouth, through the second level at Monument, to St James' opens.



7 - 1982, the Green Line is extended from Heworth to South Shields, and the second 'peak day-time' line (the Blue Line) between St James' and North Shields, is added to the map.



8 - 1985, Kingston Park and Pelaw stations are added and a 'mark' for the future Palmersville station can be seen on the map.



9 - 17th November 1991, the line to Newcastle Airport opens and is added to the map, on the Green Line.



10 - Here in the year 2000, showing the Sunderland extension (The 'South Hylton Line' to be more correct) under construction . . .




11 - The extension to Sunderland opens, and the map changes considerably. The 'sloping line' of the South Gosforth to Gateshead stretch is straightened, the two 'peak time' lines (Red & Blue lines) are gone, and the yellow line now diverts off at Pelaw, down to South Hylton.



12 - One thing I hadn't noticed until 'right now', is that they have re-introduced the SLOPING LINE of the central section of the map, in today's current map . . but this time it is sloping the other way!



I hope you found these evolving 'Metro Maps' (as the system was planned, then started and then extended over the years) of interest.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=402998
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Old May 14th, 2016, 01:10 PM   #1733
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It's pretty useful when a metro map includes journey times, like the Tyne&Wear one until 1985.

Journey times are found in a number of metro maps of the world, but usually they add clutter and a slightly nerdy impression. The designers of the Tyne&Wear map were smart enough to limit journey times to bus interchange stations, where they are most relevant for passengers. The remaining ones can be estimated easily anyways.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 02:39 PM   #1734
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One must be very bored to attempt this thing in text editor. That's me.
this is quite a feat indeed, consistent and well balanced, congratulations !

I would suggest several small tweaks to make the diagram fully consistent:

- Make the Tseung Kwan O line follow the 6h radial between Causeway Bay North and North Point

- Place the Po Lam branch on the G circle

- Place the South Island Line (East) on D Circle from Admiralty

- Extend Island Line to G circle in the East to make room for labels


And, yes, maybe some day you might want to try using a vectorial drawing software, Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape, you can save your work as .svg and get most of the coding done automatically.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 09:32 PM   #1735
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It's pretty useful when a metro map includes journey times, like the Tyne&Wear one until 1985.

Journey times are found in a number of metro maps of the world, but usually they add clutter and a slightly nerdy impression. The designers of the Tyne&Wear map were smart enough to limit journey times to bus interchange stations, where they are most relevant for passengers. The remaining ones can be estimated easily anyways.
The CTA used to post travel time to loop on the station platforms in Chicago ("X minutes to Loop"), until (I assume) somebody noticed that the actual travel times were considerably longer than posted.
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Old May 18th, 2016, 11:26 AM   #1736
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this is quite a feat indeed, consistent and well balanced, congratulations !

I would suggest several small tweaks to make the diagram fully consistent:

- Make the Tseung Kwan O line follow the 6h radial between Causeway Bay North and North Point

- Place the Po Lam branch on the G circle

- Place the South Island Line (East) on D Circle from Admiralty

- Extend Island Line to G circle in the East to make room for labels


And, yes, maybe some day you might want to try using a vectorial drawing software, Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape, you can save your work as .svg and get most of the coding done automatically.

Thanks. Although I tried to avoid sharp (small radius) bends of the paths, unlike Max Roberts' version which use the same small radius bend across the whole map. The reason I "cheat" on the lime and violet lines is that I don't want to introduce more kinks merely for the sake of adhering to the concentric pattern.

However, I do take your advice to lengthen the 2 ends of the blue line so the station labels are less crowded and for the Chai Wan end to mirror South Horizons on the lime line.
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Old July 5th, 2016, 03:44 PM   #1737
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As of this week Utrecht has a brand new Bus+Tram+Train map



I was commissioned to build it a few months ago and I'm happy to see it live

Main features:

- Historic Center and De Uithof are geographic, the rest of the map is schematized but topologically accurate

- Bus frequency: high frequency-thick line / low frequency-thin line

- Services are grouped by color according to their nature or charachteristics:

Train line (Blue)

Tram lines (Yellow)

Bus lines terminating at Utrecht Centraal Station (green)

Bus lines going through the city center (Purple)

Bus lines serving De Uithof Campus (Orange)

Tangent bus lines (brown)

Local bus line (pink)

- All angles are multiples of 30° which roughly corresponds to the urban layout and main street, rail and canal orientations.

- In addition there are some nice landmark icons and main waterways to help you orientate.



Hi res map map and design notes on my website here:

http://www.inat.fr/map/utrecht/


Hi res .pdf on the official u-ov website here:

http://u-ov.info/plan-mijn-reis/lijn...52.0748/5.1237
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Old July 5th, 2016, 05:10 PM   #1738
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(Clicks on the link of the high resolution map, leaves happy as Utrecht has a line 41 running from Utrecht Centraal to Stadion Galgenwaard and on to Wijk bij Duurstede bus station)
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Old July 5th, 2016, 09:26 PM   #1739
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brilliant work zidar fr!
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Old July 28th, 2016, 05:00 PM   #1740
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New app for urban rail maps - City Rail Maps:
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