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Old September 30th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #301
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many westeners dont understabd this!in iran it is the same !and many women are happy to get seperate trains!
in germany when train is full young people even dont givetheir seat to elder people!
iniran when train is full usually people give their seats to women when the woman train is too full and woman have to travel with man!
So women are like handicapped people?

And whats so bad for a women to travel in same train as man? Its not like everybody stares at her or even touches her. Might be different in Islam countries but in Germany, man are mainly civilized.
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Old September 30th, 2008, 03:23 PM   #302
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How is civilized even relevant? You obviously don't know what u are talking about.

Going to females and kids train is optional to the ones who prefer to do so. It is because many females wouldn't want to be sitting between guys. In fact the only reason for example why my mother might have a slightest desire of wanting to use the metro would be the fact that there are dedicated trains for them.
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Old September 30th, 2008, 03:23 PM   #303
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So women are like handicapped people?

And whats so bad for a women to travel in same train as man? Its not like everybody stares at her or even touches her. Might be different in Islam countries but in Germany, man are mainly civilized.
I think it is not for us to discuss whether Ladies only wagons are good or bad idea. By definition, that's their way, and if women feel better that way, why change it?

A different story would be if women COULD NOT access the other wagons...
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Old September 30th, 2008, 08:44 PM   #304
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Old October 1st, 2008, 08:38 PM   #305
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It is simply because they want females to be comfortable and not stuck between guys !

or avoid problems such as this that has plagued the New York MTA

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NYC transit plans anti-groping campaign
6 August 2008

NEW YORK (AP) - People who get groped on crowded subway trains will be encouraged to report it as part of an anti-groping campaign being launched by New York City Transit next month.

The agency expects to distribute 2,000 posters throughout the subway system that tell people who are sexually harassed on trains to report it to an employee or police officer.

A survey released last year by the Manhattan borough president's office on sexual harassment in the subways found that 63 percent of those responding reported they were harassed in some way, whether it was random groping, lewd comments or unwanted advances. The report was compiled from 1,790 responses collected from New York City straphangers in all five boroughs.
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Old October 1st, 2008, 11:40 PM   #306
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So women are like handicapped people?

And whats so bad for a women to travel in same train as man? Its not like everybody stares at her or even touches her. Might be different in Islam countries but in Germany, man are mainly civilized.
listen potatoe
who was saying womanare handicaped!
1.we have respect for our woman and we dont want them to stay while we are sitting!never heard about gentlements?huh!
2.woman can go to trains with man noproblem but those who dont feel comfortable cause its to full and they dont want to get in between two man and getting pressed can go to woman only trains!
but even if they use the train with man no one even dares to touch her cause people have honour and help the woman!
opposite of germany where old peiople are getting beart up bye thugs,foreigners being killed by nazis and womenbeeing raped without any helpfrom people who only watch! and how civilized u german are u have showed to the workd bye burning 6 million kids and woman of jewish origin,1million sinti and roma.....
so dont even try to tell what is civilized and what not!
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 04:21 PM   #307
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Old October 4th, 2008, 01:44 AM   #308
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How is civilized even relevant? You obviously don't know what u are talking about.

Going to females and kids train is optional to the ones who prefer to do so. It is because many females wouldn't want to be sitting between guys. In fact the only reason for example why my mother might have a slightest desire of wanting to use the metro would be the fact that there are dedicated trains for them.

this makes no sense whatsoever. it may be a cultural thing but to have a separate train for females is disturbing. the reasoning you gave about women not wanting to ride a train because they didn't want to sit between guys is also laughable. I'd love to hear an Arab female's perspective. I can honestly say that I'm glad that I don't live in such a culture. you made it sound like as if Arab men aren't capable of controlling themselves, and a 10 minutes ride next to a woman is somewhat a scary thing. these pathetic practices need to be changed. building tall buildings and roads with foreign knowledge doesn't equate to civilization, respecting humanity is.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #309
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Talk about being self-centralized ! The world doesn't evolve around what u think make sense and it is apparent that you don't know what ur talking about at all ! So stop being imperialistic and start learning that there is something beyond the US where people have a different understanding of respecting women !
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Old October 4th, 2008, 07:15 AM   #310
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this makes no sense whatsoever. it may be a cultural thing but to have a separate train for females is disturbing. the reasoning you gave about women not wanting to ride a train because they didn't want to sit between guys is also laughable. I'd love to hear an Arab female's perspective. I can honestly say that I'm glad that I don't live in such a culture. you made it sound like as if Arab men aren't capable of controlling themselves, and a 10 minutes ride next to a woman is somewhat a scary thing. these pathetic practices need to be changed. building tall buildings and roads with foreign knowledge doesn't equate to civilization, respecting humanity is.
Women-only cars also exist in Japan, Korea, Mexico, Brazil, and other non-Arab countries.

I'm sure western countries would install such cars if groping became a problem.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 03:07 PM   #311
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in iran if a woman wants to travel with man its ok!
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it is as normal as in other citys!
but many woman specialy elder or more religiouse women dont want to sit next man!we should respect everybody!
so if u want to travel with man its cool and if not its cool too!
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Old October 4th, 2008, 03:39 PM   #312
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Talk about being self-centralized ! The world doesn't evolve around what u think make sense and it is apparent that you don't know what ur talking about at all ! So stop being imperialistic and start learning that there is something beyond the US where people have a different understanding of respecting women !

thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious

the fact of the matter is there is no "different understanding" of "respecting "women" by denying their basic right to live their lives. you can get all defensive if you want and make a fuss about it but that doesn't change the fact. you want to insult my country and it's values yet your nation and it's culture aspires to be it. how ironic. your whole country is trying to become one Big part of the USA (with British and Americans building and running everything)

if you ask me, that's laughable.
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Old October 4th, 2008, 07:46 PM   #313
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OK enough, can you pleas shut up now!! for one you are wayyy off topic.

and as for having women only trains, they exist in many countries in the world, not just in the Arab world. There are dedicated women only trains in a lot of Suburban train services in India as well and i see nothing there which takes away any rights from any women. If anything, it encourages women to get out and work or do anything with a certain amount of privacy/freedom if that choose to have it!!! Not having that choice would be discriminatory and you for suggesting this are the one who wants to take away their freedom. Do you actually know how the women in these countries feel and what their values are to even have the right to make any comments here?

Commenting on other's civilization when you know nothing about it apart from what you see on TV is completely pathetic and i quite frankly think you need to learn more before you ever comment on forums again!!!
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Old October 5th, 2008, 09:06 AM   #314
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if you ask me, that's laughable.
Hmmmm . . . .

What's not funny is the amount of ignorance you have on America's (or the west's) problems with women. Rape and sexual assault per capita in America is high, top 10 in the world actually. How 'progressive'! The UAE's statistics are literally a fraction of America's (per capita). Saudi Arabia? 1/100 of the rape (per capita) as compared to America. Considering the UAE's punishment for rape can easily be the death sentence, you can understand why men show respect for women over there.

Every country has its problems with the way they handle women, America is no exception.

Anyway, onto those trains -- can't wait for the monorails to be running on the palm!
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Old October 5th, 2008, 02:27 PM   #315
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pleaaaaaaaaase lets stop this!lets enjoy progress in the world and lets not get involved in this childisch "my father is stronger than yours"behavejour!
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Old October 7th, 2008, 05:47 AM   #316
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Dubai must recognise need for public transport
United Arab Emirates: Monday, 06 October 2008 at 14:29


Former London mayor Ken Livingstone would be 'delighted' to advise on Dubai's planning.

The controversial former mayor of London Ken Livingstone today urges Dubai to recognise the need for an efficient public transport system if it wants to succeed in becoming a major financial centre.

Livingstone, who has strong ideas on how cities should be run and the driving force behind the London's successful 2012 Olympic bid, was speaking to regional and international press at Cityscape Dubai, the world's largest business-to-business real estate investment and development event.

Ken, who is chairing the World Architecture Congress which is part of the Cityscape programme, was recently appointed an advisor on urban planning to Caracas, Venezuela, acting as a consultant on the city's policing and transport. Asked if he would consider taking on a similar role for Dubai, he said: 'I'd be delighted!'

With strong ideas about how a city should be run, Ken has never been afraid of controversy. He introduced the congestion charge in London and oversaw a transformation of the city's aging transport infrastructure to free up London traffic.

Making his first visit to Dubai, Ken said he had previously only passed through Dubai airport on his way to Australia. But asked for his suggestions on how Dubai could be improved, he replied: 'Dubai must recognise a modern financial district requires the vast majority of workers to use public transport.'

How does he think the global economic crisis will impact the development of Dubai? 'It represents a real opportunity as economic power continues to shift from America and Europe's financial centres to the growing economies of Asia,' he said.

Ken had no fear that the economic crisis will adversely impact the 2012 Olympics in London. 'Initially the government will have to put up some more of the construction costs for the media centre and the Olympic village but they will get the money back when these are sold after the Olympic games,' he said.

Livingstone has twice held the chief executive office in London, firstly as leader of the Greater London Council from 1981 until the council was abolished in 1986 by Margaret Thatcher's government. He became the first directly elected Mayor of London when London-wide government was restored in 2000.

Ken was defeated in his second re-election bid by Boris Johnson in May 2008. He has written two books, If Voting Changed Anything They'd Abolish It and Livingstone's Labour. He is currently working on his autobiography for publication in 2009.

Cityscape Dubai is expected to break new records this year with more than 60,000 participants from over 150 countries attending the exhibition and conferences taking place from 6-9 October 2008 at the Dubai International Exhibition Centre. Now in its seventh year, Cityscape Dubai features a series of important conferences of which the World Architecture Congress is one.

Other conferences taking place at Cityscape Dubai include the Real Estate Leadership Strategy Summit and the International Real Estate Investment and Development Conference, Cityscape Dubai's main conference. In addition, Cityscape Dubai hosts the second Cityscape Dubai Hotel and Tourism Investment and Development Conference and the Middle East Facilities and Asset Management Conference.

Platinum sponsors of Cityscape are: Nakheel, Aldar, Dar Al Arkan, Qatari Diar, Saraya, and Tanmiyat. Gold sponsor are: Abyaar, Aqaba Development Corporation, and Tameer. Silver sponsors are: Al Qudra Real Estate, MAG Property Development, and Iskandar Financial District.

The conferences are also backed by leading sponsors. Associate sponsor of the World Architecture Congress are Al Fajer Property and headline sponsors are Groho, Arup, Timelinks and Move In. Diamond sponsors of the Hotel and Tourism Investment and Development Conference are Bawadi, platinum sponsors are Group RCI and silver sponsors are SNASCO. Gold sponsor of the Facilities and Asset Management Conference are Wasl.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 11:48 AM   #317
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what is Ren Ken doing, telling Dubai how to do things, it should be the other way around. Two face hypocrite Ken has no right to lecture dubai about efficient public transport when the london transport under his reign has a lot of improvement to do. He also vetoed motorbikes from using the bus lanes in london, put up congestion charge that is more a money making gimmick then reducing congestion
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Ken knows what he's talking about
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Hmmmm . . . .

What's not funny is the amount of ignorance you have on America's (or the west's) problems with women. Rape and sexual assault per capita in America is high, top 10 in the world actually. How 'progressive'! The UAE's statistics are literally a fraction of America's (per capita). Saudi Arabia? 1/100 of the rape (per capita) as compared to America. Considering the UAE's punishment for rape can easily be the death sentence, you can understand why men show respect for women over there.

Every country has its problems with the way they handle women, America is no exception.

Anyway, onto those trains -- can't wait for the monorails to be running on the palm!

Yeah, that's why they rape men instead....
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Old October 14th, 2008, 03:46 AM   #320
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Here are a few updates of the Palm Jumeirah Monorail:

Viaduct:
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by Richard Head; 13 October 2008

Trump Station:
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by Richard Head; 13 October 2008

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by Richard Head; 13 October 2008

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by Richard Head; 13 October 2008

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by Richard Head; 13 October 2008

And here is a video that somewhat describes the switching system for the monorail:
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