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Old January 24th, 2010, 10:33 AM   #101
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Ahoi I'll post my little excurse from the Dresden Neumarkt thread here as well:



Dresden - gothic Sophienkirche

Construction started in 1250, so the church was the oldest of Dresden.
After heavy bombing raids in WWII, it was left in ruins in 1945.
The GDR government decided to tear it down, they started with the demolitions in 1950 and finished them in 1962. The city of Dresden started to build a memorial in its place, which includes the reconstruction of some parts.


Historical photos of the Sophienkirche:

With the baroque Zwinger palace in the foreground (photochrom print around 1900)

by Wiki

Baroque Zwinger and gothic Sophienkirche, photo of 1880
(The towers are neogothic, btw)

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Sepia photo, around 1900

Source: herberts-home.de - more photos to be found there


Sophienkirche and Postplatz in the foreground, quite some splendid square back then, today it rather looks deserted


Source: ZENO.org -- click for full resolution


Source: herberts-home.de


Source: herberts-home.de


They simplified the church towers later (in 1933), because the neogothic towers were quite sensitive regarding the weather and about to be dangerous (stuff falling down from there), but it was said to be a temporary solution and to restore the neogothic towers later.


Source: Bildindex.de


Sophienkirche after the allied bombing raids in 1945

by Wiki


Source: Bildindex.de


The GDR government (under Walter Ulbricht) decided to blow it up in 1962.
"A socialist city doesn't need gothic church towers!"


One day before the final demolition

Source: nicole1982.de


For more churches blown up in Dresden and the whole GDR, have a look at this page (warning: EXPLICIT/SAD CONTENT!): http://www.kirchensprengung.de/Dresden.htm





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Does anyone know where to find interior pictures of it?
Check out www.bildindex.de.
Just follow the link "Orte" on the sidebar to the left, then "Deutschland" > "D" > "Dresden" > "Sakralbau, alph." > "Sophienkirche".

You'll find hundreds of photos of the Sophienkirche there. This page offers loads of photos of any German city (as well as other European ones) and is a real treasure.


One of the interior photos you can find there:

Source: Bildindex.de -- full resolution

The baroque Silbermann pipe organ

Source: nicole1982.de


You can also find additional photos there: nicole1982.de


Now that's what they're going to build on its place: A memorial called "Busmannkapelle" (Busmann chapel). They'll reconstruct some back parts of the choir and use original stones for this. It'll commemorate WWII and the horrible failures of the GDR government after the war. The construction started in September 2009.


Source: neumarkt-dresden.de / Gustavs und Lungwitz Architekten

German website of the memorial: www.busmannkapelle.de (You can donate for it)

More German info and images of the future memorial: GHND - neumarkt-dresden.de
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Old January 24th, 2010, 10:40 AM   #102
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Some great historical comparison of Berlin cityscape - seen from Straße des 17. Juni
(in front of the Brandenburg Gate, where it leads to the Siegessäule / Victory Column):


1930 ca.:


1945:


Berlin Wall period (1966/1968):



2008/2009:

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Old January 24th, 2010, 04:11 PM   #103
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Wow!! What a comparison! So sad a large portion of old Berlin will (probably) be gone forever hm
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Old January 24th, 2010, 09:26 PM   #104
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The comparison is indeed great to see.
In my personal opinion Berlin looks better than ever today.
Only the Bauakademie I'm sadly missing.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 01:09 AM   #105
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So sad!
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Old April 10th, 2010, 09:28 PM   #106
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the Sophienkirche memorial is the same type of mess that the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial is in Berlin. Pieces of the original surrounded by inappropriate, unintegrated steel and concrete makes no artistic sense nor does it communicate anything other that man's inhumanity to man in terms of visual abuse, imho.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 10:21 AM   #107
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At the moment there's nothing original of the Sophienkirche at the place.
It's better than having no reminder of the Sophienkirche at this place imho.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 10:24 AM   #108
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This old photo of Berlin at 30s is really very nice:
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Old April 11th, 2010, 10:24 PM   #109
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This church - shown in the original post - was already destroyed before WWII, correct? Wasn't it bombed in WWI or something like that?



I think it's the ruin with the ugly modernist memorial somewhat near the Berlin zoo.
Better late than never....! I do not see a reply yet...

No, the Kaiser Wilhelm I Memorial Kirche was in excellent shape up until it was bombed in WWII. The church was the focal point of the west side of Berlin street hub and a beautifully designed structure. Kaiserin Augusta Viktoria was privotal in its building and it was financed by William II to honor his grandfather. I so doing, he did slight his own father and mother, but that's another story.

The church was bombed in Nov 1943 during the early days of the British/American terror bombing strategy on German civilian population centers.

The so-called memorial looks silly. Again, in recent times, architects and designers seem to have been obsessed with start contrasts rather then continuity. The ultra modern "lip stick and powder box" structures around the ruins of the church look like a grade school project for attention deficit disorder children.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #110
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Absolutely amazing thread. Amazing photos. I love pre-war Germany.
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Old April 12th, 2010, 12:00 AM   #111
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erbse, your photos are fantastic! Schwerin is a lovely city; the home of the last crown princess of Germany. And i visited the island of Rugen a few years ago; it is becoming a resort destination once again. In the 1920s it was THE destination for the social set of Berlin.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 12:38 AM   #112
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Oh anyhow -we've got a single reconstruction at the Potsdamer Platz - the traffic light





At least we have that. It was also the world's first red, yellow, green traffic light to control the 5 street intersection at Potsdamer platz/
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Old June 25th, 2010, 12:45 AM   #113
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A handful of Hamburg shots just wont do, Im afraid. More more more!

Btw those in post #86 wont show up.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 02:14 AM   #114
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It's very sad to see how much was lost!
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Old July 29th, 2010, 12:00 PM   #115
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Two great ones of Leipzig.


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Old July 29th, 2010, 12:04 PM   #116
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Some useful links (originally posted by Dr. Mabuse at Germany before WW2 - Dozens of links with hundreds of photos):


A newly discovered collection of more than 3,000 aerial photographs of Germany before and during the allied bombing campaign of the second world war. The photographs, taken diagonally with special cameras from low-flying aircraft, offer detailed views of buildings. They concentrate on Germany's inner cities, which are shown in their full baroque and gothic splendour.

All in all excatly 3235 negatives, but only about 200 hundreds are digitized and uploaded. Here they are.
http://www.uni-marburg.de/fb09/fotom...ernahm/kieler2
The other 3000 are waited to be uploaded.

Polish Capital Warsaw http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm931417a.jpg
Königsberg (today Kalinigrad) http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm931829a.jpg
Mainz http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm932809a.jpg
Kassel http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm933530a.jpg
Frankfurt http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fm932665a.jpg

In http://www.bildindex.de you can search for others areial photos, not only from germany but from france or belqium or italy.

More pictures of german cities within historic pics, include some inside buildings, eg Castle Wilhelmshöhe Kassel
http://www.hessenbild.de/neue_dateie...storie-inh.php

15 choosen realcolor photos
http://www.welt.de/kultur/article198...d_frueher.html

Colone before ww2, includes some Streetviews
http://www.anicursor.com/colpicoldd.html
http://www.anicursor.com/colpicoldd2.html
http://www.anicursor.com/colpicoldd3.html

Hamburg
http://www.bildarchiv-hamburg.de/thu...humb3a.htm#Mes

5 or 6 pics from Stuttgart
http://www.dtp-internet.de/stuttgarthistory/

Lübeck
http://www.luebeck-im-bild.de/Willko...uftbilder.html

berlin 1935
http://www.flickr.com/photos/galapia...th/3454983528/

stadtbild deutschland
http://www.stadtbild-deutschland.de/home.html

Stadtbild deutschland fraknkfurt virtuell
http://www.stadtbild-deutschland.de/.../10/index.html

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuel...nkfurt_am_Main
altfrankfurt

Oldfrankfurt
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/Hauptwache1.htm

Colored black and white pictures germany about 1900
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...temp/~pp_zIXM:

Historic Maps
http://www.historic-maps.de/

Have fun and enjoy architecture from the past
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Old July 29th, 2010, 01:23 PM   #117
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Can't Germany just destroy everything that was built after 1914?
Be it nazi, commie or liberal; just tear those totalitarian buildings down!

Reconstruct these pictures and get back to the good ol' days of die Kaiser!
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Old July 29th, 2010, 02:35 PM   #118
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wow, you make it sound so easy
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Old July 29th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #119
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Leipzig looked amazing!
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Old July 29th, 2010, 04:20 PM   #120
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Amazing, beautiful cities! It wasn't just German cities, but other great European cities such as Warsaw were also destroyed during WWII. From an architectural sense, it was a huge loss.
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