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Old November 4th, 2011, 05:13 AM   #721
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On a per square foot basis you're correct, but if you only have $250,000-$350,000 to spend, that means a condo. You can't buy a house for that.

If there's plenty of space in 905 to develop, why are developers/urban planners/media all saying the opposite? Toronto's days of ever growing sprawl are over.
Looking at the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation's seasonally-adjusted annual rate of total housing starts for the Toronto CMA, single detached homes accounted for 32% of total starts in September, which is still a sizeable figure and suggests sprawl is still alive and well in the CMA.

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/n...&pageid=258216
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Old November 5th, 2011, 06:19 AM   #722
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Infill build replaces mixed-use, adds residential

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Thirteen currently commercial and office addresses along Dundas Street West, west of Kipling Avenue and on adjacent Shorncliffe Road will be replaced with an equal amount of commercial space as well as six condominiums, eight highrise towers ranging from 20 to 30 storeys, a 0.4-hectare public park and a new publicly accessible private road network.

Land has also been secured for future subway expansion.
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"We're achieving real mixed-use development with this proposal," said Etobicoke-Lakeshore Councillor Peter Milczyn, who represents the area. "A dry cleaners or a convenience store on the ground floor of a building or building strictly residential is not good enough. We need to create employment spaces."
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Etobicoke York Community Council Wednesday approved a zoning amendment to allow Dunshorn Holdings Inc. to move forward with its plans for residential and replacement mixed-use commercial retail and office space at 5415, 5421-5429, 5453, 5475 and 5481 Dundas St. W. and 15 and 25 Shorncliffe Rd.

Alder Place owns and intends to develop adjacent properties at 5485 and 5487 Dundas St. W.
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Some $1.25 million will be used to create a new park on the Dunshorn site on the south side of Dundas and/or for improvements to Cloverdale Park north of Dundas on Shaver Avenue. Alder Place will contribute another $250,000 to do the same.
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Etobicoke North Councillor Doug Ford expressed enthusiasm at the project. He said he wished for similar projects in his ward.

"I'd kill to have someone give me $1.5 million to help develop north Etobicoke," he said. "It's fabulous. Will it increase property values? Yes. Does it have parkland? Yes. It's a win-win."
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Old November 5th, 2011, 07:10 AM   #723
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Old November 5th, 2011, 08:21 AM   #724
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Looking at the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation's seasonally-adjusted annual rate of total housing starts for the Toronto CMA, single detached homes accounted for 32% of total starts in September, which is still a sizeable figure and suggests sprawl is still alive and well in the CMA.

http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/en/corp/n...&pageid=258216
I'll try to find an article I read just a few days ago that basically validates my point. 32% does sound quite healthy still, but everything I've read over the past 2 years points to the days of expanding sprawl being behind us.

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Tuesday November 01, 2011
Single Family Homes becoming ‘Precious Commodities’
Toronto is rapidly transforming into a “vertical world” because of an unprecedented condo boom and greenbelt policies that are making single-family homes “precious commodities,” a new report says.

Provincial efforts to limit sprawl have helped drive up house — and land — prices across the GTA to the point where the dream of raising children in a house with a yard may be dying, warns the annual survey by PricewaterhouseCooper released Tuesday.

Strong immigration to the GTA, unbridled investor confidence in Canada and “overconfidence” in the housing market have also helped fuel the boom and pushed the average price of a single family home in the GTA to almost $500,000, notes the survey, Emerging Trends in Real Estate.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:25 PM   #725
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I'll try to find an article I read just a few days ago that basically validates my point. 32% does sound quite healthy still, but everything I've read over the past 2 years points to the days of expanding sprawl being behind us.

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Courtesy of the Toronto Star
That article doesn't point to the number of new single-family homes disappearing, but rather they're not as affordable now, hence "precious", than in the past.

32% of new housing starts are for detached homes. Sprawl is still alive and well, but just more expensive to live in.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 06:37 AM   #726
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Alright, I give up. There's a mountain of data out there; draw your own conclusions.
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Toronto Pan-Am Games Athlete's Village

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Old November 8th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #728
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The second public meeting for Lanterra's massive North St. Jamestown development meeting was last night.

TheTorontoBlog gives a good break down of the proposed buildings, with photo tour of existing properties.

http://thetorontoblog.com/2011/11/07...eting-tonight/

4-tower condo proposal for North St James Town faces 2nd public feedback meeting tonight

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The meeting, the second to be held this year, will give the public an opportunity to hear revised plans for the massive condo project that Lanterra Developments has proposed for three blocks of a long wedge-shaped area bounded by Bloor, Parliament, Howard and Sherbourne Streets. In a rezoning application filed with the City on August 25 2010, Lanterra outlined bold development plans that would revitalize three separate blocks of land at the northern perimeter of the St James Town district with four towers designed by Peter Clewes of Toronto’s architectsAlliance.
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Block 1: Northeast corner of Sherbourne and Howard Streets

For this area, the developer proposed a 390-unit condo complex featuring a 50-storey tower, 7-storey podium and 5 levels of underground parking with 288 spaces. The tower would rise next to the Anson Jones House, a Queen Anne-style heritage building designed by Edmund Burke that sits on the corner of Sherbourne and Howard at 603 Sherbourne. The podium would include retail space along Sherbourne Street, while a 3-story mixed use building located along Howard Street would be linked to the complex.
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Block 2: Glen Road between Howard and Bloor Streets

The west side of this leafy one-block-long section of Glen Road is noteworthy for six semidetached brick houses which have been boarded and bricked up for decades. Under Lanterra’s proposal, these homes would be restored for residential use, though rear portions of the buildings would be demolished to allow for construction of a 5-storey apartment building with 41 units along with 15 above-ground parking spots and 17 below-ground spaces.
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Block 3: From Edgedale Road to Parliament Street

This long stretch of land between Howard and Bloor Streets would feature three condo towers on the eastern end of the property along with a 2-storey amenity and service building at the site’s southwest corner at Edgedale and Howard. The west tower would be 56 storeys tall with 630 units; the middle tower would be 46 floors with 425 units, and the east tower would rise 53 stories and contain 348 units. The complex would have 5 levels of underground parking with 869 spaces. A heritage building at 76 Howard Street would have to be demolished to make way for the three skyscrapers.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #729
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Love the architecture, the residential buildings look like hotels or office buildings.
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Old November 9th, 2011, 11:16 PM   #730
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How in the world could someone oppose this is beyond me given what is surrounding this proposal.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 07:42 PM   #731
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How in the world could someone oppose this is beyond me given what is surrounding this proposal.
So because the surrounding buildings are dreadful, people should accept anything a developer throws at them? That's how we ended up with places like St. Jamestown in the first place.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle2232087/

West Coast builder has big Toronto plans

JOHN BENTLEY MAYS | Columnist profile | E-mail
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Published Thursday, Nov. 10, 2011 12:46PM EST


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With the construction of his $504-million Living Shangri-La scheduled to top off in December, and with the grand opening of this luxury hotel-condominium complex on track for August, 2012, Vancouver tall-building developer Ian Gillespie is well on his way to putting down deep roots on Toronto’s lower University Avenue.
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Two Toronto condominium schemes are coming up right behind Shangri-La, he told me recently. He was short on details – understandably, since both projects are still in very early stages of development – but he did say that his favoured architect for one of the two is Denmark’s Bjarke Ingels.
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But a powerful part of BIG’s appeal is the firm’s proven ability to deliver large-scale designs that satisfy the demands of the real-estate industry while fully embodying Mr. Ingels’s commitments to city-building and high artistic standards. Toronto would probably be fortunate to get a Westbank building by this rising star in the architectural firmament.
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“Bringing Bjarke in to do a building, if we’re able to put this all together, is going to open people’s eyes in Toronto to a world of possibilities,” he told me. “It will be a new form of development, not something anyone has ever seen before. When you see it you’ll go: Wow!”
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Old November 12th, 2011, 04:44 AM   #734
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So because the surrounding buildings are dreadful, people should accept anything a developer throws at them? That's how we ended up with places like St. Jamestown in the first place.
And who exactly is opposing this? The people who live in those slums? They should be thankful someone wants to develop something to offset this horrid collection of what resembles North Korean public housing.
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Old November 12th, 2011, 09:15 AM   #735
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And who exactly is opposing this? The people who live in those slums? They should be thankful someone wants to develop something to offset this horrid collection of what resembles North Korean public housing.
Poor people should take what ever people feed them? That might have worked in Poland where people put up with decades of what ever the regime fed them, but this is the West.

No one said there were people opposing this, but public consultation is part of the process that's made north American cities the vibrant places they are. Without it, we'd end up with developments that didn't meet the needs of citizens.

You've got an Eastern Bloc mentality; Canadians have higher standards than that. The democratic process is at the heart of what's made our society successful. The poor, the rich, and everyone in between get a say as to what their city looks like. This ain't Poland circa 1980.
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Poor people should take what ever people feed them? That might have worked in Poland where people put up with decades of what ever the regime fed them, but this is the West.

No one said there were people opposing this, but public consultation is part of the process that's made north American cities the vibrant places they are. Without it, we'd end up with developments that didn't meet the needs of citizens.

You've got an Eastern Bloc mentality; Canadians have higher standards than that. The democratic process is at the heart of what's made our society successful. The poor, the rich, and everyone in between get a say as to what their city looks like. This ain't Poland circa 1980.
You wish you could have the 'Eastern Bloc' mentality (whatever that is supposed to mean, although it does wonderfully expose your prejudice and thinking that's been outdated for at least 20 years). Compared to Warsaw or Krakow vast parts of Toronto look like a dump. And please spare me this nonsense about the supposed superiority of Canadian and/or North American 'consultative' democracy. You might impress some dumb Americans with this kind of rhetoric but not anyone who comes from countries (such as Poland) that were implementing constitutions hundreds of years before Canada was even a country. This North American 'consultative' process has led to hollowed out cities with ghettos in the US or neglected, third-tier architecture cities (hello Canada and Toronto) with no concept of what public spaces should look like. Canadians may very well teach the rest of the world how people of various cultures and backgrounds can co-exist, but it's a bit rich to lecture anyone from any part of Europe about city and/or public space design and proclaim that it is superior. That's just preposterous, but not surprising given how small-minded and myopic Canadians can be.
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Poor people should take what ever people feed them? That might have worked in Poland where people put up with decades of what ever the regime fed them, but this is the West.

No one said there were people opposing this, but public consultation is part of the process that's made north American cities the vibrant places they are. Without it, we'd end up with developments that didn't meet the needs of citizens.

You've got an Eastern Bloc mentality; Canadians have higher standards than that. The democratic process is at the heart of what's made our society successful. The poor, the rich, and everyone in between get a say as to what their city looks like. This ain't Poland circa 1980.
hahahaha it sure doesn't the same as poland around the 80's it's much more like poland between 1939-1945
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That's just preposterous, but not surprising given how small-minded and myopic Canadians can be.
It's called the democratic process and prevalent in most western nations, not just Canada. Even Poland got rid of authoritarianism, but I see old habits die hard. If you wanted communism, you shouldn't have moved here.
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