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Old April 24th, 2009, 10:58 AM   #281
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That brigde is like one of those in sci-fi movie.
A acrobat plane could fly throught that hole. Love the bridge.
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Old April 29th, 2009, 01:12 PM   #283
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Guangzhou buyers snap up 125 units at luxury W Residences
22 April 2009
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It has been dubbed the most luxurious apartment block in Guangzhou.

W Residences, which will be managed by W Hotel, is being promoted by developer KWG Property Holding as offering facilities that are on par with the Four Seasons serviced apartments in Hong Kong.

Located in Zhujiang New Town, destined to be Guangzhou's new central business district, the project comprises 337 units with sizes of 40, 80 and 120 square metres.

Sales started last Saturday, two days after the project was launched in a glamorous event that included a fashion show featuring top Hong Kong models.

The event caught the attention of buyers, and 125 units were sold at the weekend at an average price of 25,000 yuan (HK$28,399) per square metre, generating revenue of about 250 million yuan for the developer.

Analysts said ongoing interest in the project, as well as in the imminent launch of the Dragon Lake Forest Park by Hong Kong developer Sun Hung Kai Properties, would provide an indication of the state of the luxury property market in Guangzhou.

"The financial crisis did not have any impact on our plan to launch this project. Demand for luxury properties is always there, no matter what the market situation is," said Terry Chen, a director of KWG Property.

"Luxury property in Guangzhou sells for only a fraction of the price it fetches in other mainland cities, such as Beijing and Shanghai. So it is attractive to buyers."

Eric Lam, the general manager of Colliers International in Guangzhou, expects the project to appeal in particular to senior executives from Japan and South Korea because they are more used to compact flats.

Although the project was launched shortly after the provincial government unveiled a 15-point stimulus package to help revive Guangdong's ailing property sector, John Tian, the national director of Jones Lang LaSalle, believed the introduction of the measures had little impact on the developer's launch decisions.

The stimulus package includes cutting taxes on purchases of homes and lifting restrictions on buyers from Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan.

The provincial government said it would allow developers to delay payment on land purchases made last year for as long as two years.

It would also allow developers to pay land appreciation tax in instalments.

The provincial government also encouraged local developers that have listed their stocks abroad to sell A shares on the domestic market.

Home sales in the province last year dropped 21 per cent from 2007 levels, the first decline since 2003, according to the Guangdong Real Estate Association.

Foreigners including people from Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan had been prohibited from buying more than one unit each since 2007 to curb speculation and prevent the local property market from overheating.

"The high-end property market is fairly stable in Guangzhou largely because of limited supply," according to Mr Tian.

"There aren't many sites suitable for high-end properties and most of them are in Zhujiang New Town."

Buyers interested in units in the area were mainly local businessmen as well as those from elsewhere in the Pearl River Delta, he said.

This class of buyers were typically end-users and attracted to the projects because of limited supply, he added.

SHKP, Hong Kong's biggest developer by market value, wants to make its Dragon Lake Forest Park project a top-class and probably the most expensive residential development in Guangzhou.

Construction of the first phase of the development, which will provide about 245 villas and twin houses, would be completed by the middle of next year, the developer said.

The first batch of about 100 units will come onto the market probably next month, and the prospective launch has already made the development the talk of the town.
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 08:54 PM   #284
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amazing china is so wow

theres only one question i always asking about chines cities its look like everyone live on a big building did someone have some photos of chines urban area were people live in small house or something like that
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oh my...

someone said: Wow! 10 years ago this city was probably smaller than Smallton, Montana! One just wonders how China will manage to keep the control of its people... All these buildings are great creations, but at the expense of poor Chinese labourers that make $.27 an hour!

OK, first of all, Guangzhou 10 years ago was STILL very huge! and as far as the poor Chinese labor/migrant workers, they are darn lucky to have work! Even though they are not making "our" minimum wage, they are making MORE than they ever did working in the village/farm. The typical working wage of a peasant farmer is about 250 USD/year!!! They come to the city, they can make perhaps 500 to 600/month RMB, so that works out to 7,200 RMB/year=$1,200 USD...pretty good wages.

I lived in Guangzhou from 2001 to 2006 and plan to return in 2010. Love that dirty, gritty city! And someone had some photos posted that had lots of "very blue sky"...those are the touched up photos that the bureau of tourism puts out, too funny! I can promise you, it is a rare day to see clear blue sky in Guangzhou. Usually you have to get good photos around Oct. or Nov., same for Hong Kong.
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Old May 10th, 2009, 06:17 AM   #286
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someone said: Wow! 10 years ago this city was probably smaller than Smallton, Montana! One just wonders how China will manage to keep the control of its people... All these buildings are great creations, but at the expense of poor Chinese labourers that make $.27 an hour!

OK, first of all, Guangzhou 10 years ago was STILL very huge! and as far as the poor Chinese labor/migrant workers, they are darn lucky to have work! Even though they are not making "our" minimum wage, they are making MORE than they ever did working in the village/farm. The typical working wage of a peasant farmer is about 250 USD/year!!! They come to the city, they can make perhaps 500 to 600/month RMB, so that works out to 7,200 RMB/year=$1,200 USD...pretty good wages.

I lived in Guangzhou from 2001 to 2006 and plan to return in 2010. Love that dirty, gritty city! And someone had some photos posted that had lots of "very blue sky"...those are the touched up photos that the bureau of tourism puts out, too funny! I can promise you, it is a rare day to see clear blue sky in Guangzhou. Usually you have to get good photos around Oct. or Nov., same for Hong Kong.
dude i think u are talking about ageold figures .No migrant worker works for less than 2000 yuan per month .They directly reject teh jobs these days.I know a person in shanghai who is forced to pay his workers 100 to 150 yuan per day he runs a decoration office .(decorating buildings and so on ) .You will never find anyone who works fro 500 yuan per month .The least rate in the so east china right now is 70 rmb yuan per day in north china which still still would make it above 2000 yuan per month . Infact electricians and every low level worker works for at leats 2000 yuan and also taxi drivers Those guys haev to pay like 6000 yuan per month rent .So yeah pay scales have changed a lot from 2001 .

I would say a low end figure would be 80 yuan per day whihc would make it 10 yuan per hour or 1.3 USD including the purchasing power parity it would be 2.6 USD per hour . ( Ofcourse many work probably for 10 hours not 8 in that case it would be 8 rmb per hour or 1.18 USD or 2.36 USD includign ppp)

Which is almost 10 times that projected by western audience .
@chinagypsy but i think u are right about figures u quoted when it comes to average pays adn so on .They are similar to those mentioned by National beurea of statistics . Which is much less the than real picture in China (mainly becuase ppl fudge salary figures and report income in private sector

The problem with china is not migrant workers not getting paid well .They problem is even educated ppl who graduate from say top unis like fudan end up wtih jobs at 3000 yuan per month while even migrant workers whom their parents employees for their business also earn the same thing
IT has not yet developed a large private entreprise to absorb high end talent .ofcourse dont get em wrong many graduates from stju tsingua to end up with jobs at 250k yuan per annum but that is ofcourse the really lucky ones .They need to create more jobs in that sector
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A migrant worker working on construction earn on average 100 to 120 Yuan per day and they usually work six days a week, some even 7 days. The average monthly income is about 2500 to 3000 Yuan. Migrant workers working in the service industry get less pay. They earn around 80 to 100 Yuan per day. My cleaning lady in Shanghai gets 15 Yuan per hour, but I also heard that othes only pay 10 or 12 Yuan per hour as well.
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And someone had some photos posted that had lots of "very blue sky"...those are the touched up photos that the bureau of tourism puts out, too funny!
Yes, surely all pictures of Guangzhou with blue sky are photoshoped propaganda images published by the evil government.

Propaganda goes both ways, obviously.
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Yes, surely all pictures of Guangzhou with blue sky are photoshoped propaganda images published by the evil government.

Propaganda goes both ways, obviously.
cumon lets get real here . Almost every tourism bureau on earth fudges its figures .For that matter even so called free singapore .When every country on earth does it. We just call that marketing , When china does it we call it propaganda .

The only place which actually looks like those pictures is australia .
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Old May 12th, 2009, 06:31 PM   #292
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Guanghzou Opera House is on fire, only a few months after the TVCC in Beijing burnt down.

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How can there be a fire so easily?? this makes me angry, so many beatiful buildings just getting destroyed, such a waste of money and time.

How bad is the damage? I hope the delay wont be so long.
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Old May 13th, 2009, 05:17 AM   #294
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I can't believe that the Guangzhou Opera House would catch fire. It looks like the damage might be severe. And since the Asian Games are only eighteen months away, it may take a while to do repair work on that opera house and complete the structure. First the Table Tennis Gymnasium in Beijing, then the TVCC Building, and now this?! Why the hell must the People's Republic of China's uniquely-designed buildings catch fire?
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Guangzhou Investment snaps up last residential site in CBD
11 June 2009
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Guangzhou Investment, the property arm of the city government, yesterday acquired the last residential site in the core business district for 15,324 yuan (HK$17,382) per square metre, 358 per cent higher than the previous site in the area sold for in 2005.

The developer has spent more than 1.31 billion yuan on three sites in Guangzhou and Jiangmen so far this month, including the latest acquisition. The site, near Pearl River Park, attracted 16 bidders, including Poly Real Estate, KWG Property Holding, China Vanke and New City Group.

Guangzhou Investment was successful on the 50th bid, for 345 million yuan, 154 per cent higher than the 136 million yuan opening bid and beating the 270 million yuan expected by analysts.

The total investment cost of the project would be about 445 million yuan, a company source said.

"It is the last residential site available for sale in Pearl River New Town, and property prices in the area reached 30,000 yuan per square metre. We had to bid aggressively for it," he said.

The project is expected to fetch more than 30,000 yuan per square metre. Alan Chiang Sheung-lai, the head of residential property at property consultant DTZ, believes the better than expected land auction result would boost residential prices, with developers expected to raise the asking prices of new projects.

"The outcome of the auction reflected a vote of confidence from developers and pointed to higher prices ahead," he said, adding that prices for the project have to reach at least 25,000 yuan per square metre to generate a reasonable profit.

The 6,349 sqmetre site could provide a floor area of 22,514 sqmetres.

Property prices at KWG's Apex, a new project in the area, reached 25,000 yuan per square metre this year, according to Ellis Wong, the general manager at Centaline (China) in Guangzhou.

Guangzhou Investment acquired two commercial and residential sites in Jiangmen for about 968 million yuan earlier this month.
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The new Chimelong Hotel in Guangzhou, China's largest eco-theme hotel, has celebrated its grand official opening following a six-month soft opening.

Located close to Chimelong Paradise, Chimelong Water Park, Chimelong Xiangjiang Safari Park, and Chimelong International Circus, the 360,000-square-meter hotel has 1,500 guest rooms. Guests staying there can enjoy one-stop services for hotel accommodation, circus performances, and international cuisine.

The hotel's brand new convention center is said to be the largest in south China — covering an area of 30,000 square meters. The convention hall is equipped with hi-tech facilities and is comprised of 36 flexible multi-function rooms that can cater for meetings, seminars, and banquets.
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Poly Starts Building at Guangzhou Asian Games Plot

GUANGZHOU, July 16, SinoCast -- Poly Real Estate Group Co Ltd. (SHSE: 600048), a leading property developer in China, debuted its commodity house building at the Guangzhou Asian Games plot on July 15, 2009, becoming the first largest-sized real estate developer in the nation launching such a building.

The building, with a total building area of 134,000 square meters, includes houses of merely 870 sets.

Yu Ying, general manager of the Guangzhou branch of Poly Real Estate, said that the company obtained the plot for the commodity house building at a price of about CNY 3,000 a square meter, which is not expensive in accordance with current situation.

Currently, prices of house buildings, which are developed by small-sized real estate developers, around the Guangzhou Asian Games plot reaches about CNY 5,400 a square meter to CNY 7,500 a square meter. And the Shanghai-listed company predicted that the there had been huge appreciation space of no less than 50%.
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New rail link cuts no time off trip
25 July 2009
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A trip on the 50 billion yuan (HK$56.8 billion) high-speed rail link between Hong Kong and Guangzhou will take as long or longer than the existing through train because the new service will terminate 23 kilometres from the provincial capital's centre.

Unlike the present line, which stops in the heart of Guangzhou's business district at Tianhe , the much touted Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong railway due to open in 2015 will terminate southeast of the city centre at Shibi, Panyu .

Travellers arriving there after a 48-minute ride from Hong Kong will find convenient links to the mainland rail network, including a much faster ride to the central city of Wuhan , Beijing or other points north.

But to get to Guangzhou's city centre, passengers will have to transfer to Guangzhou Metro and ride it for 18 stops - a journey of about 45 minutes, the

A Guangzhou Metro spokesman said: "It is a normal metro train. We haven't decided the speed and the frequency of the trains. It will probably be slower than the normal speed in the beginning."

The through train to Guangzhou East station takes an hour and 40 minutes, meaning it will actually take just as long to reach the city centre using the new express, and then the Guangzhou Metro.

One infrastructure expert had doubts about the express link's effectiveness for Hong Kong people.

"[They] will have to transit by travelling at least 45 minutes on the Metro to reach the city centre," said Zheng Tianxiang, a Pearl River Delta transport expert and an adviser to the Guangzhou city government. "The arrangement will be rather troublesome for them."

Hong Kong's section of the new rail line will cost 39 billion yuan and the Shenzhen-to-Guangzhou link 11 billion yuan, the Ministry of Railways said on Friday.

Work on the Shenzhen-to-Guangzhou section has already begun and is expected to be completed before November next year. The Hong Kong government hopes to start building its part of the project by the end of this year.

Announcing the Executive Council's approval of the plan in April last year, the government said the new line "will cut the Hong Kong-Guangzhou travelling time to just under 50 minutes - twice as fast as the Guangzhou-Hong Kong through trains on the East Rail alignment".

The Transport and Housing Bureau has heavily promoted the 48-minute ride to Guangzhou as a time-saving service between the two cities.

"The proposed rail line will provide fast, convenient and reliable services to and from Hong Kong and Guangzhou via Shenzhen," a government spokesman said late last year.

The bureau estimates that in 2016, 88,000 passengers will use the new link to get to Shenzhen and Guangzhou daily, while 11,000 passengers will transit to other Chinese cities through Guangzhou's new station.

Du Wen, head of the team that selected the site for the new station said Shibi was chosen because of its abundant land. Compensation for affected villagers also would be cheaper there than in other places.

Hong Kong Polytechnic University transport specialist Hung Wing-tat said: "Quite a number of Chinese cities are building their new railway stations outside the city centre and this is also an international trend. In many foreign countries, new railway stations are no longer in the city centre because of a shortage of land."

But he said the government should make it clear that the Guangzhou it referred to when promoting the link was not Guangzhou central. "Panyu is part of Guangzhou but it is pretty far away from heart of the city. It is wrong to assume that the express link will take the passengers straight to Guangzhou's business district, like the existing rail line is doing," he said.
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The average salary of Guangzhou in 2008 is more than 3000 RMB per month, around $450 USD per month. Considering the purchasing power, it should be equal to $1,000 USD.

In addition, the personal tax law is not very strictly implemented in China, so there are lots of hidden income, like the stock and real estimate.

According to the statuses of my middle school classmates, most people graduated from the university with 2-3 years working experience can make more than $10,000 USD a year. Since I was doing computer science for undergraduate, my classmates in the university make much more than normal people, like $20,000 a year.

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someone said: Wow! 10 years ago this city was probably smaller than Smallton, Montana! One just wonders how China will manage to keep the control of its people... All these buildings are great creations, but at the expense of poor Chinese labourers that make $.27 an hour!

OK, first of all, Guangzhou 10 years ago was STILL very huge! and as far as the poor Chinese labor/migrant workers, they are darn lucky to have work! Even though they are not making "our" minimum wage, they are making MORE than they ever did working in the village/farm. The typical working wage of a peasant farmer is about 250 USD/year!!! They come to the city, they can make perhaps 500 to 600/month RMB, so that works out to 7,200 RMB/year=$1,200 USD...pretty good wages.

I lived in Guangzhou from 2001 to 2006 and plan to return in 2010. Love that dirty, gritty city! And someone had some photos posted that had lots of "very blue sky"...those are the touched up photos that the bureau of tourism puts out, too funny! I can promise you, it is a rare day to see clear blue sky in Guangzhou. Usually you have to get good photos around Oct. or Nov., same for Hong Kong.
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