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Fragmentor · August 13th, 2006, 11:01 AM

As was Swiss Re, its the risk developers take, they usually pay off but some dont want to take the risk

London · August 13th, 2006, 12:14 PM

indeed

ismail · August 13th, 2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Anger

Wow, its going to look so amazing, itd be nice for there to be 2 shorter skyscrapers on the left and right of it, but both taller than tower 42 or swiss re, for a nice cluster effect

It will have ...
122 Leadenhall to one side and Heron to the other

***wjfox*** · August 13th, 2006, 06:39 PM

And I think we can all agree, this will be the best place to see it -

Fragmentor · August 13th, 2006, 06:51 PM

Although I wouldnt turn down the view from an apartment in The SHard...

Ntn_Rawlings · August 14th, 2006, 01:00 AM

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And I think we can all agree, this will be the best place to see it -

Isnt it the case though that when you (WJfox2002) produced that render you didnt know where bish was going to be exactly, and in reality it will be much much closer to ledenhall in that pic?

Dan1987 · August 14th, 2006, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ntn_Rawlings

Isnt it the case though that when you (WJfox2002) produced that render you didnt know where bish was goign to be exactly, and in reality it will be much much closer to ledenhall in that pic?

I think so, Bishopsgate will actually be right next to Leadenhall, not very far apart at all.

London · August 14th, 2006, 02:22 AM

Bish is in the correct space, but its not as wide as it should be in the render...

London · August 14th, 2006, 02:36 AM

Leadenhall would need to be moved closer to Bishopsgate Tower, so covering most of SwissRe and uncovering more of Minerva... as the pic shows below.

St. Anger · August 14th, 2006, 04:10 AM

imagine how epic its gonna feel driving past that, like i was so excited the first time i saw tower 42 and swiss re in real life and they looked huge compared all the buildings around, this is just gonna be incredible to walk past.

Skid-Mark · August 14th, 2006, 09:15 AM

Yeah, you can really see the difference in the Bishopsgate tower there, shame we might end up with the dumpier one, like a wizard who ate all the pies. Still a great tower though, i also hope it isn't purple.

Wild@Heart · August 14th, 2006, 11:35 AM

I believe the purple tint will be more visible at night, like the blue colour on T42's crown.

What a shame we've ended up with the shortened version. The first proposal really soared!

Munch · August 14th, 2006, 01:23 PM

It is a bit stupid that they had to shorten it... it's huge already, lopping a bit off doesnt do any good.

But... the building is stunning! I am very excited to see it go up.. bring on the purple i say.

Ntn_Rawlings · August 15th, 2006, 11:17 PM

In my opinion the need to shorten it by 19m or whatever it was, was considerably less important than the asthetic quailties of the city of londons pinnacle, which in many ways is more than just londons symbol of power, but the whole sodding nations, now it just wont look as good, just so there can be a utterly retardedly huge safety margin.

edit: my god that was negative, i love this project really, and its actually my second favourite project, i hope all the previous speculation of this being unlikely to get built is all rubbish, as this is a simply awesome project, and in my opinion, crucial in order to create a balanced skyline.

***wjfox*** · August 16th, 2006, 12:02 AM

I don't think people should worry too much about the height reduction. It's still a fucking massive building. It will clearly be the dominant tower in the cluster. It will be visible from all over London. Even by American standards it's pretty tall.

J.A.W · August 17th, 2006, 04:35 PM

I hate it it's so tacky - it belongs in an up-in-a-rush boom city in china or somewhere - Norman Fosters millenium tower for the SWiss re site should be biult instead of that stupid concoction. It looks outdated to me and fosters tower is the sort of calm imposing design that lasts - and looks impressive and with a highly individual shape, but restrained, this proposal looks a little amateur (if I dont sound like a pratt saying so)

Fragmentor · August 17th, 2006, 05:06 PM

Swiss Re is better, by far than this millenium tower. It also has nothing to do with The Bishopsgate Tower. How its tacky I dont know, you fail to back up your comments with reasons that are even remotely justified. Amateur? I could say the same about your post....

nookie · August 18th, 2006, 09:22 AM

Are there any more major projects such as this one? (I hope!)

Munch · August 18th, 2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fragmentor

Swiss Re is better, by far than this millenium tower. It also has nothing to do with The Bishopsgate Tower. How its tacky I dont know, you fail to back up your comments with reasons that are even remotely justified. Amateur? I could say the same about your post....

Frag, he was arguing that the millenium tower design as better than the Bishopsgate one (as a city pinacle), i dont think he was arguing about swiss re.

But i disagreee JAW... it isnt tacky, it's oozing with detail and quality, innovation. This is potentially too refined for some of the eastern cities.

Fragmentor · August 18th, 2006, 10:00 AM

My mistake.

Nookie, if you have a little peak in the Main projects and construction bit you'll see that there are several, The Leadenhall building, Heron TOwer to name but a few

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August 14th, 2006, 04:10 AM	#90
St. Anger Insomniatic Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Posts: 91 Likes (Received): 0	imagine how epic its gonna feel driving past that, like i was so excited the first time i saw tower 42 and swiss re in real life and they looked huge compared all the buildings around, this is just gonna be incredible to walk past. __________________ augmentator@hotmail.com www.myspace.com/scottlewisnufc

August 15th, 2006, 11:17 PM	#94
Ntn_Rawlings Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cornwall and London (term time) Posts: 254 Likes (Received): 0	In my opinion the need to shorten it by 19m or whatever it was, was considerably less important than the asthetic quailties of the city of londons pinnacle, which in many ways is more than just londons symbol of power, but the whole sodding nations, now it just wont look as good, just so there can be a utterly retardedly huge safety margin. edit: my god that was negative, i love this project really, and its actually my second favourite project, i hope all the previous speculation of this being unlikely to get built is all rubbish, as this is a simply awesome project, and in my opinion, crucial in order to create a balanced skyline. __________________ Hewwo! Last edited by Ntn_Rawlings; August 15th, 2006 at 11:24 PM.

August 13th, 2006, 11:01 AM	#81
Fragmentor Funky London Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North London Posts: 1,787 Likes (Received): 0	As was Swiss Re, its the risk developers take, they usually pay off but some dont want to take the risk

August 13th, 2006, 06:39 PM	#84
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,192 Likes (Received): 931	And I think we can all agree, this will be the best place to see it -

August 13th, 2006, 06:51 PM	#85
Fragmentor Funky London Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North London Posts: 1,787 Likes (Received): 0	Although I wouldnt turn down the view from an apartment in The SHard...

August 14th, 2006, 11:35 AM	#92
Wild@Heart Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SE London Posts: 459 Likes (Received): 1	I believe the purple tint will be more visible at night, like the blue colour on T42's crown. What a shame we've ended up with the shortened version. The first proposal really soared!

August 14th, 2006, 01:23 PM	#93
Munch Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oxford/London/Houston Posts: 678 Likes (Received): 1	It is a bit stupid that they had to shorten it... it's huge already, lopping a bit off doesnt do any good. But... the building is stunning! I am very excited to see it go up.. bring on the purple i say.

August 16th, 2006, 12:02 AM	#95
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,192 Likes (Received): 931	I don't think people should worry too much about the height reduction. It's still a fucking *massive* building. It will clearly be the dominant tower in the cluster. It will be visible from all over London. Even by American standards it's pretty tall. __________________ FutureTimeline.net - a timeline of future history

August 17th, 2006, 04:35 PM	#96
J.A.W ******** Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bradford Posts: 70 Likes (Received): 0	I hate it it's so tacky - it belongs in an up-in-a-rush boom city in china or somewhere - Norman Fosters millenium tower for the SWiss re site should be biult instead of that stupid concoction. It looks outdated to me and fosters tower is the sort of calm imposing design that lasts - and looks impressive and with a highly individual shape, but restrained, this proposal looks a little amateur (if I dont sound like a pratt saying so)

August 17th, 2006, 05:06 PM	#97
Fragmentor Funky London Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North London Posts: 1,787 Likes (Received): 0	Swiss Re is better, by far than this millenium tower. It also has nothing to do with The Bishopsgate Tower. How its tacky I dont know, you fail to back up your comments with reasons that are even remotely justified. Amateur? I could say the same about your post....

August 18th, 2006, 09:22 AM	#98
nookie Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 81 Likes (Received): 0	Are there any more major projects such as this one? (I hope!)

August 18th, 2006, 10:00 AM	#100
Fragmentor Funky London Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North London Posts: 1,787 Likes (Received): 0	My mistake. Nookie, if you have a little peak in the Main projects and construction bit you'll see that there are several, The Leadenhall building, Heron TOwer to name but a few

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