Bishopsgate Tower - "The Pinnacle" | City of London | 288m | 63 fl | On Hold - Page 527

JLAG · December 7th, 2012, 06:02 PM

Agree. Please close this thread and open it up when there is something relevant to say about the pinnacle.

JimB · December 7th, 2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by potto

but it isn't always transparent, I see the Shard daily from the same distance and point of view and the top rarely looks more transparent than than the rest because more often than not, all of the glass is reflecting light.

I can only say, then, that you have been far luckier than me. From Old Street, I have rarely seen it thus.

Langur · December 7th, 2012, 08:27 PM

The transparency looks great. It makes the tower appear lighter, more delicate...

spenster · December 9th, 2012, 10:47 AM

Pinnacle offers to settle Brookfield legal claim
7 December 2012 | By Iain Withers

Developer seeks settlement on City of London’s tallest

Does anyone have an account with:
http://www.building.co.uk/profession...047237.article

***Tubeman*** · December 9th, 2012, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spenster

Pinnacle offers to settle Brookfield legal claim
7 December 2012 | By Iain Withers

Developer seeks settlement on City of London’s tallest

Does anyone have an account with:
http://www.building.co.uk/profession...047237.article

Great, something on topic. Please keep it this way.

If you want to discuss the Shard, try the Shard thread

DeFiBkIlLeR · December 9th, 2012, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spenster

Pinnacle offers to settle Brookfield legal claim
7 December 2012 | By Iain Withers

Developer seeks settlement on City of London’s tallest

Does anyone have an account with:
http://www.building.co.uk/profession...047237.article

Hmmm...not sure about the legality of posting subscriber pay-wall content, so Mods feel free to delete if necessary...doesn't really say much anyway..

You can get around quite a few 'subscriber only' articles by just copy&pasting the relevant headline into Google, which usually brings up the article and just clicking through to it from the search result.

lumberjack · December 9th, 2012, 01:24 PM

Thank for the update... I sense a JV coming up

spenster · December 9th, 2012, 07:11 PM

god i hope so - please let us know if you know anything lumberjack....

even if you can't say! - just say you know something!

london needs this tower!

Trances · December 10th, 2012, 12:32 PM

JV = joint venture ?

scalatrava89 · December 10th, 2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Trances

JV = joint venture ?

Good question. That one went right over my head too.

LMM1 · December 10th, 2012, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjack

Thank for the update... I sense a JV coming up

Donald Trump Perhapse ? ;-)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/no...owners-funding

See last sentence..

***gothicform*** · December 10th, 2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spenster

god i hope so - please let us know if you know anything lumberjack....

even if you can't say! - just say you know something!

london needs this tower!

quite. it's been a case of too many cooks spoil the broth. arab investors needs to simply sell its share to someone else. lots of people want the site.

DeFiBkIlLeR · December 10th, 2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicform

lots of people want the site.

But do they want the current design or do they have their own ideas for the site,which could push any form of construction back for another 12-24mths..?

It may make more sense to get the site on the cheap and build a 'relatively' cheap mid-rise with conventional floor plate design.

Black Cat · December 10th, 2012, 04:18 PM

It may take years to get a new design off the ground for this site, with no guarantee of success. This would be a significant risk for a developer. It may take a few years anyway for the market to be ready for this building, though the market will be there providing the City of London remains a global financial centre.

It may make more sense to redesign the building internally to be multi-purpose, akin to the Shard, and thereby diversify risk - something which has happened with a number of large projects in recent years. Perhaps this is what LJ is intimating at when using the phrase JV. There may also be a new wave of money from East and SE Asia coming to London looking for investment opportunities, as at Battersea Power Station, which after 30 years of waiting is finally happening. Just some thoughts....

Zin5ki · December 10th, 2012, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeFiBkIlLeR

But do they want the current design or do they have their own ideas for the site,which could push any form of construction back for another 12-24mths..?

I am currently of the view that KPF's confirmation of a redesign to the cladding should be a factor worthy of consideration when ascertaining the motives of such parties. The legal situation being as it is however, I do not know of the degree to which this would be relevant.

***gothicform*** · December 11th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Cat

It may take years to get a new design off the ground for this site, with no guarantee of success. This would be a significant risk for a developer. It may take a few years anyway for the market to be ready for this building, though the market will be there providing the City of London remains a global financial centre.

It may make more sense to redesign the building internally to be multi-purpose, akin to the Shard, and thereby diversify risk - something which has happened with a number of large projects in recent years. Perhaps this is what LJ is intimating at when using the phrase JV. There may also be a new wave of money from East and SE Asia coming to London looking for investment opportunities, as at Battersea Power Station, which after 30 years of waiting is finally happening. Just some thoughts....

there's quite a few people who are interested in it... although yes, it should be interesting to see if brookfield has a partner lined up.

isn't it already designed to be multi let, but not split floor?

Aspie · December 14th, 2012, 05:30 PM

Dont know if this has been posted...

Quote:

In early December 2012, a settlement offered by Arab Investments to contractors Brookfield Multiplex paved the way for construction to resume "potentially very soon".

Ebeneezer_Goode · December 14th, 2012, 05:43 PM

No source?

lumberjack · December 14th, 2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebeneezer_Goode

No source?

There's something in property week....

Ion Cannon · December 14th, 2012, 06:12 PM

Potentially? I think they need a prelet before anything will happen and there is already quite a bit of grade A space available. But if they go for mixed use, this could then start "potentially" soon.

December 7th, 2012, 08:27 PM	#10523
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Trances , , and , Fade to Black. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Living in London Posts: 7,896 Likes (Received): 4	JV = joint venture ? __________________ "Are we ready to go farther or have we already gone to far?" “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”

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December 7th, 2012, 06:02 PM	#10521
JLAG Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Öresund Posts: 1,058 Likes (Received): 37	Agree. Please close this thread and open it up when there is something relevant to say about the pinnacle.

December 9th, 2012, 10:47 AM	#10524
spenster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 294 Likes (Received): 3	Pinnacle offers to settle Brookfield legal claim 7 December 2012 \| By Iain Withers Developer seeks settlement on City of London’s tallest Does anyone have an account with: http://www.building.co.uk/profession...047237.article

December 9th, 2012, 07:11 PM	#10528
spenster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 294 Likes (Received): 3	god i hope so - please let us know if you know anything lumberjack.... even if you can't say! - just say you know something! london needs this tower!

December 10th, 2012, 04:18 PM	#10534
Black Cat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,495 Likes (Received): 14	It may take years to get a new design off the ground for this site, with no guarantee of success. This would be a significant risk for a developer. It may take a few years anyway for the market to be ready for this building, though the market will be there providing the City of London remains a global financial centre. It may make more sense to redesign the building internally to be multi-purpose, akin to the Shard, and thereby diversify risk - something which has happened with a number of large projects in recent years. Perhaps this is what LJ is intimating at when using the phrase JV. There may also be a new wave of money from East and SE Asia coming to London looking for investment opportunities, as at Battersea Power Station, which after 30 years of waiting is finally happening. Just some thoughts....

December 14th, 2012, 05:43 PM	#10538
Ebeneezer_Goode Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 405 Likes (Received): 67	No source?

December 14th, 2012, 06:12 PM	#10540
Ion Cannon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 164 Likes (Received): 3	Potentially? I think they need a prelet before anything will happen and there is already quite a bit of grade A space available. But if they go for mixed use, this could then start "potentially" soon.