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Old August 20th, 2006, 12:11 AM   #121
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In fairness we've not seen different angles of the Mellenium (sp?) tower. We have for the Bishopsgate tower.
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It's way out of proportion with the height reduction. If it ended up like that render, I'd prefer the Millenium Tower.
you see thats exactly what i think - im perfectly fine with the tall slim straight vertical one because it was graceful, this is frumpy
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In fairness we've not seen different angles of the Mellenium (sp?) tower. We have for the Bishopsgate tower.
aah - so is the straight slim one of a different angle but on the same photo??
or a complete (and nasty) redesign??
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The former I reckon.

Edit: Even the taller "graceful" render of the Bishopsgate tower looked stumpy at times at different angles.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 12:19 AM   #125
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so if thats true then which is it that is correct from this standard st pauls view?
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Old August 20th, 2006, 12:22 AM   #126
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How can a thousand foot building look "stumpy"? I don't think stumpy is the right word.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 12:25 AM   #127
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Will, at different angles mate. Well, yeh, now that I look back at it, stumpy isn't the word, but slightly unproportioned if that is a word.
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its the proportions not the size any way - the rendering on my screen is only about 3 or 4 inches high
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I saw a model of the Bishopsgate Tower at the Summer Show at the Royal Academy today and if it ain't stumpy and it ain't well proportioned and it ain't vertically challenged then it's TOO BLOODY FAT.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 01:04 AM   #130
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Old August 20th, 2006, 01:45 AM   #131
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Thanks newcastle guy,

This is my first attempt at posting an image and i might well have got it wrong. If nothing appears below then apologies and i'll try it again.

[IMG]http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?i...andbishpm8.jpg[/URL][/IMG]

This is an attempt to place the millenium tower into the same skyline as the the bishopsgate tower. I'm a novice at photoshop so its a bit shit.
I've put it in between the natwest tower and the proposed heron tower, which i think is the best place for it in this future skyline. Even then, it still seem to unbalence the view, at least from waterloo bridge. More buildings of similar height to swiss re and the natwest might help, although i think the congestion of towers at this site will be an inevitable consequence of the st pauls site lines.
On a bit of a side issue, I'd like to see more buildings by Foster and, in particular, Rogers built in prominent areas of London before they both retire (if architects ever retire?). There are plenty of examples of both architects work in London, but neither has had a chance to really stamp their identity of London. In Rogers' case i think this is a real shame, i would love to see a london peppered with his industrial modernist buildings, especially when they are tall enough to be visable from other parts of town.
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It isnt much wider than tower 42, which isnt xactly of modern floorplates. Architecture and ideas have progressed alot so understand and respect that the City is finally getting a gigantic, modern skyscraper.

It's also significantly thinner than the other modern planned Millenium Tower... but I dont hear any complaints about the width on that baby! Take a look (for fun )



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Old August 20th, 2006, 02:28 AM   #133
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Henry, your render looks interesting but its kind of small.

All you have to do is copy its url and place it in between these brackets:

[img] url goes here [/img]

The firms will be around forever, more than what i can say about the architects themselves.

We dont need to worry about a skyscraper of that scale going anywhere in the city since height restrictions are well in practice in that area.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 11:53 AM   #134
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The Bishopsgate Tower is only fat from that angle, because from St Paul's you're looking at the side that faces Bishopsgate, which has a long frontage. The floorplate is an elongated triangle, and this is the longest side.
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Yeah, I can't believe this needs to be explained so many times.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 01:52 PM   #136
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And no-one's going to see it from that angle anyway apart from when they are at the top of St Paul's. From ground level it will look wide, from say Ludgate and Fleet Street, but no-one will notice, because they'll be so breathless at its height they won't particularly care that she's put on a bit of weight.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 03:00 PM   #138
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Doesn't do anything for me. I'm preferring what we're getting.
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No me neither, its too much in on such a small site.
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Old August 20th, 2006, 03:50 PM   #140
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I'd like it a little shorter. Like the size of Minerva, and on that location too.
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