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Old April 14th, 2008, 01:28 PM   #1801
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gday

its such a shame that all the buildings in new york are so tall, so you cant really appreciate each building on its merit as they are all pretty much obscured by each other....

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Old April 14th, 2008, 05:30 PM   #1802
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I do love Manhattan, but not NYC's ghettos. Where was this taken? LIC?
Graffitti is not a sign of a ghetto in New York. Maybe it is in Los Angeles, however graffitti here is so common that it means nothing. It just shows that the city is worn in and 'grittiness", but definitely not ghettoness.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #1803
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BoA looks quite imposing, even from Brooklyn
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Old April 14th, 2008, 08:00 PM   #1804
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gday

its such a shame that all the buildings in new york are so tall, so you cant really appreciate each building on its merit as they are all pretty much obscured by each other....

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lol, that's exactly what NYC makes so great
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Old April 15th, 2008, 06:48 AM   #1805
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That picture...
Williamsburg?
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Old April 15th, 2008, 09:10 AM   #1806
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In the hood graffiti is consider works of art and is part of the hip hop movement. If people think Manhattans the only part of new york city then their wrong. Must of the people who live in the NYC live in Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx only a hand full of people live in Manhattan. I mean if you can call a million in a half people a handful. And my bad for getting mad. I get highly upset when people call brooklyn the ghetto. If you wanna see ghetto then go to deep south you'll think brooklyn is heaven.
Yeah, I understand. I know Brooklyn is not a ghetto in all areas. Some of those areas are extremely gentrified and very upscale now...at least from what I've heard. There's not as many bad areas anymore except places such as the Bronx and projects such as Bed-Stuy. I heard even Harlem is getting a lot better than it used to be. That's great. Maybe one day I can afford something in a really urban neighborhood in NYC since I can't do it now. Too expensive, but I'd love living somewhere in Manhattan or very close that is also urban.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 03:43 PM   #1807
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I think buildings should be ranked in order of their height with roof height. Like one bryant park or federation tower has really high spire but low roof but its tip of spire makes the whole structure tall.

Like in this diagram shanghai wfc looks overall taller than taipei 101 because wfc has taller rooftop. Sears tower also looks miles taller than petronas tower by rooftop level. My point is that ranking of tallest buildings should be counted by height of top of the roof making them look more even.



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I do realise the reason for all these rules, but just suggesting.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #1808
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I think you're right in pointing out such errors of judgment BUT...
The above examples cannot not make everyone agree with your (our) opinion, but take the... perhaps the best skyscraper EVER: the Chrysler building. Well its hard to tell where the 'real' spire ends and becomes a simple antenna.
Go and judge that roof now!!!
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Old April 15th, 2008, 11:57 PM   #1809
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people post stuff about spires in so many threads.

if you want to rank buildings by roof height, nothing is stopping you.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #1810
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they rank by both is what someone told me.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:36 AM   #1811
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they rate them by three and the taipei 101 roof is higher then the sears tower so that diagram is wrong. Taipei is the tallest building in the world with out it spire. But not for much longer as many of you know. And to Jessemh431 anybody can live in NYC they pay a higher pay rate for the cost of living. And you could alway move to the hood we got enough room for everyone lol. But believe me you don't wanna do that lmao.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:44 AM   #1812
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No, not really. They count part of the goofy half-spire as the roof height on Tapei 101. The diagram isn't wrong.

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?1178316
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Old April 16th, 2008, 02:52 AM   #1813
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Even if you discount that it's roof is still higher. If you stand the two building next to one another you can see it. The diagrams of the roof height on skyscraperpage.com show this best.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 05:17 AM   #1814
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It definitely doesn't look like a really bad ghetto like in the Brox or North Brooklyn, but it doesn't look like a very nice neighborhood either. I guess I'm just not used to old look of NYC. No need to get all of defensive though. Damn.
That was good. lol

It's not a ghetto. It does have some run down areas though. It use to be mostly industrial (still is in some areas). Ghetto's are mostly to the far east and central Brooklyn. There are exceptions...

BTW, I think spires should'nt be included in buildng height. It does add to the building though. BOA would look pretty weird without it imo...
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Old April 16th, 2008, 05:45 AM   #1815
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Well its hard to tell where the 'real' spire ends and becomes a simple antenna.
Go and judge that roof now!!!
From Dictionary.com:

anĚtenĚna /Šnˈtɛnə/ [an-ten-uh]
–noun, plural -tenĚnas for 1, -tenĚnae 1. a conductor by which electromagnetic waves are sent out or received, consisting commonly of a wire or set of wires; aerial.

It actually isn't hard, if it doesn't transmit electromagnetic waves, it is a spire not an antenna. Simple as. (Chrysler's spire does not transmit electrical waves)
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Old April 16th, 2008, 07:48 AM   #1816
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Yep that's right. And that's why no one says the Sears Tower is 1729 feet and why the Petronas is taller. Of course someone could just cheat with a huge spire, but then no one would pay any attention to it anyway.
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Old April 16th, 2008, 09:21 AM   #1817
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But then it would not be a continuous part of the design?
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Old April 17th, 2008, 12:05 AM   #1818
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Can we please go back to Bryant Park Tower instead of spires and ghetto's?
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Old April 17th, 2008, 02:47 PM   #1819
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Hi guys. First post so go easy. Just wanted to show a couple of pics I took Appril 10th 08.



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Old April 17th, 2008, 04:39 PM   #1820
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That second image is fantastic! The best picture I've seen for a long time!
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