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Old August 10th, 2006, 05:33 AM   #41
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25) The Hub
Nabadiganta Township
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Developer: PS Group
Status: under construction
website: http://www.psgroup.in/


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Old August 10th, 2006, 05:40 AM   #42
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The only exposure ive had to kolkata is through documentaries like "Born to Brothels", so all ive seen is the slums and extreme poverty the city is known for. Its nice to see some projects like this for a change
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Old August 10th, 2006, 06:00 AM   #43
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The only exposure ive had to kolkata is through documentaries like "Born to Brothels", so all ive seen is the slums and extreme poverty the city is known for. Its nice to see some projects like this for a change
Actually, downtown Calcutta is a very pelasant colonial town. Sure, they've got some ugly freeways, the buildings are all falling down and it's not uncommon to see something like a dead dog in the middle of the road, but the parks are lovely and the museums are excellent. Bombay used to be the shining star of India but in the last few years it has gotten much worse while Calcutta has gotten a bit better. Calcutta has one of the most undeserved reputations in the world. I have high hopes for its future.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 06:46 AM   #44
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The only exposure ive had to kolkata is through documentaries like "Born to Brothels", so all ive seen is the slums and extreme poverty the city is known for. Its nice to see some projects like this for a change
There is no denial that Kolkata has plenty of slums and poverty. But one has to remember that it is a huge urban agglomeration. Take a look at google earth and you can easily make out the slums (what may be surprising is that it isn't really as much as one usually thinks).
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26) South City Gardens
61, B L Saha Road
6 blocks of 14 storeys each
Developer: South City Projects
Status: under construction
website: http://www.southcityprojects.com/scg.htm

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Old August 10th, 2006, 07:02 AM   #46
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27) SP City
New Town
Several blocks of 14 storeys each
Developer: Shapoorji Pallonji
Architect Sabarna (Singapore)
Status: plot development

[A mass housing scheme for lower and middle-income groups spread over 150 acres and being built with a projected cost of Rs 15 billion. It is scheduled to be completed by mid-2010. SP City will have 20,000 apartments.]



A proposed commercial zone with several office blocks is under consideration too

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Old August 10th, 2006, 09:36 AM   #47
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Housing schemes such as this are quite common in Asia, and I realise that India has a desperate shortage of housing, but are people not worried that these kind of mass housing projects could turn into the hell holes they became in America and Europe when they were built from the 50s to the 70s? Has there been any kind of debate about the benefits of the massive tower block projects?

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Old August 10th, 2006, 04:05 PM   #48
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There is no denial that Kolkata has plenty of slums and poverty. But one has to remember that it is a huge urban agglomeration. Take a look at google earth and you can easily make out the slums (what may be surprising is that it isn't really as much as one usually thinks).
yay, i love GoogleEarth! Youre right, indeed, kolkata does not look nearly as impoverished from above as i wouldve thought...no more so than any other indian city, places in China, or even Rio.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 04:10 PM   #49
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Housing schemes such as this are quite common in Asia, and I realise that India has a desperate shortage of housing, but are people not worried that these kind of mass housing projects could turn into the hell holes they became in America and Europe when they were built from the 50s to the 70s? Has there been any kind of debate about the benefits of the massive tower block projects?
Yes, there has been a lot of debate in this issue (especially in Mumbai) about mass high rise housing for low income groups. Studies and examples of things not working out in the west have been discussed. But then options are limited in the cities because of lack of land.

4 storey (now 4+ garage level) is a very popular housing format in India and has been tried and tested out. There have been problems of maintenance but other options are more expensive.

In Kolkata they have tried the HIG,MIG, LIG (high income group, middle income, low income) forumla where HIG and MIG apartments subsidize the LIG apartments. SP City will however be the first to have MIG apartments subsidizing LIG apartments. So I guess they have have to have large numbers for the maintenance issue to work out.

If you notice, the LIG apartments will be four storeys only (easier and lower cost of maintenance) while the MIG ones will be highrises. How it works out without the HIG cross subsidy needs to be seen.
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Well I am thoroughly impressed by all the developments going on. Unfortunately they arent the most original and are out in the suburbs and not in the established downtowns, but its still great for Kolkata!! Hopefully we will get to see more developments in concentrated areas soon, and I do have to say some of those residential towers lok beautiful. What type demographic are buying in these resi towers? Middle-class Indians? Or is there a wide array of prices in the type of developments...ranging from low-class, affordable to higher-class expensive flats?
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Old August 13th, 2006, 04:42 AM   #51
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Well I am thoroughly impressed by all the developments going on.
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Unfortunately they arent the most original and are out in the suburbs and not in the established downtowns, but its still great for Kolkata!! Hopefully we will get to see more developments in concentrated areas soon, and I do have to say some of those residential towers lok beautiful.
The fact is that if Kolkata has to develop then it has got to move outwards. Any further development in concentrated areas would need to first demolish existing structures, compensate/rehabilitate the displaced peoples & then rebuild which is a tedious & expensive.

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What type demographic are buying in these resi towers? Middle-class Indians? Or is there a wide array of prices in the type of developments...ranging from low-class, affordable to higher-class expensive flats?
Almost all of these condos are for middle class categorized in Low-Income Group (LIG), Middle-Income Group (MIG), Higher-Income Group (HIG). Rich & Super-Rich in Kolkata prefer to have their Bunglow/apartment on their own piece of land.
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Cool! Looks like a Transformer robot.

Seems like Kolkata will have India's 2nd largest skyline soon.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 06:55 AM   #53
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Does Kolkata have leafy suburbs with estates?
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Old August 16th, 2006, 04:26 PM   #54
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What type demographic are buying in these resi towers? Middle-class Indians?
The towers shown here are mostly catering to the HIG. Some are for the MIG.
A majority of housing in Kolkata is 3-4 storey apartment blocks which cater to all groups (depending on locality).

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Or is there a wide array of prices in the type of developments...ranging from low-class, affordable to higher-class expensive flats?
Apartments in highrise blocks range from upper middle income to higher end rich.

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Does Kolkata have leafy suburbs with estates?
Not the kind you see in the west. Suburbs in Kolkata mostly developed on their own with very little town planning (most of the growth came when millions of refugees came over in 1947-1950 and 1969-1973). So growth was haphazard (and poverty stricken as the displaced people had been reduced to penury). It's taken decades since then to bring some semblance of order in these sprawling suburbs and there is still work to do. The good thing is that most second generation have through sheer hard work managed to get a modicum of financial independence and quality of life has improved greatly.

Housing quailty and quantity has improved dramatically as single storey houses are getting replaced with four storey apartment blocks. On the other hand what the suburbs lack is proper roads. This has been the biggest drawback for Kolkata's development. That's where all the new townships under construction come into play.

There are three major "leafy" suburban areas:

1) Kalyani (middle class)
( a section of Kalyani)



2) Bidhan Nagar (middle class - upper middle class and rich)



3) Alipore - some of the richest people of India live here. But you can hardly see what's beyond the walls of those estates.



There are many small township developments like Shyamoli which cater to the very rich.



The two latest kids on the block are Kolkata West International City and Riverside Township. More on them later.
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Old August 16th, 2006, 04:37 PM   #55
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Some of Kolkata's latest projects look promising. The bidding round for all these projects has been completed and these are just the proposals from the architects (RMJM). In the case of these three projects, Unitech (one of India's largest developers) in association with Indonesian companies has won the bids.

Kolkata International Convention Centre
http://www.rmjm.com/portfolio/mixedu..._portfolio.pdf



Infospace
http://www.rmjm.com/portfolio/office..._portfolio.pdf





Biswa Banga Shikhar (World Bengal Tower)

http://www.rmjm.com/portfolio/office..._portfolio.pdf

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Old August 19th, 2006, 05:17 PM   #56
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28) Diamond Heights
20/1, Chetla Road
15 storeys
Developer: Diamond Group
Status: under construction
website: http://www.diamondgroupweb.com/dia_hei.htm

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Old August 19th, 2006, 05:25 PM   #57
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wow..Calcutta is witnessing amazing developments
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Old August 20th, 2006, 05:50 PM   #58
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Very good indeed any improvement is better than nothing i suppose.

Its a shame cities in India have been neglected for so long but now there is change happening for the best.

Calcutta (Kolkata) is making an effort to improve & modernise but its the stigma of the city that spoils it. Anyway its heading in the right direction anyway.
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Bump.

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seem like all those project are in the middile quality
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