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Old December 23rd, 2006, 08:16 PM   #301
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True. Another forced annexation by the US, also based on the infamous "Doctrine of discovery".
http://www.city-data.com/states/Hawaii-History.html
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/gp/17661.htm
You didn't read the links you posted very well did you? As you can see from the exert below (from the first link you posted) Hawaiians were very happy to become part of the united states and it was the US Congress that was reluctant to grant statehood! Contrast this with the terrible opression of China over Tibet. This includes flooding Tibet with many Han Chinese to dilute the local culture. All Chinese must be ashamed at what their government is doing to the people of Tibet.

"Hawaiians pressed for statehood after World War II, but Congress was reluctant, partly because of racial antipathy and partly because of fears that Hawaii's powerful International Longshoremen's and Warehousemen's Union was Communist-controlled. The House of Representatives passed a statehood bill in 1947, but the Senate refused. Not until 1959, after Alaska became the 49th state, did Congress vote to let Hawaii enter the Union. President Eisenhower signed the bill on 18 March, and the question was then put to the Hawaiian electorate, who voted for statehood on 27 June 1959 by a margin of about 17 to 1. Hawaii became the 50th state on 21 August 1959."


Political repression intensifies as Tibet railway opens
International Campaign for Tibet
June 30th, 2006

The world's highest railway across the Tibetan plateau opens Saturday (1 July) in Lhasa in an increasingly repressive political climate. Security is tight in Lhasa this week as the government steps up its patriotic education and "strike hard" campaigns, and Tibet's Party chief emphasizes a "fight to the death struggle" against the Dalai Lama and his supporters.

Completion of the 1,142 kilometer rail link from Golmud (Ge'ermu) in Qinghai province to Lhasa in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) despite the high cost and considerable technical difficulties reflects the Beijing leadership's political and strategic objectives in the region. Described by the official press as the "center-piece" of China's high-profile campaign to develop the Western regions, the $4.1 billion rail link1 connects Lhasa with Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu and Guangzhou via Xining, bringing Beijing much closer to achieving the goal set by Mao Zedong over 40 years ago to integrate Tibet with China.

Chinese President Hu Jintao, a former Party chief of Tibet, is rumored to be boarding the first train to Lhasa as Beijing draws attention to its technological and engineering achievements in constructing the railroad, approximately half of which is built on permafrost, or frozen earth. New methods have been pioneered in order to build a fixed track on the unstable, moving ground of the high plateau.

In the buildup to the railroad opening, senior Party leaders have intensified their focus on the "anti-separatist struggle" in Tibet, indicating their determination to crack down on any dissenting views and actions. At a meeting last month in Lhasa, the new TAR Party Secretary Zhang Qingli called for the intensification of the political "patriotic education" campaign, as he said the Party is engaged in a "fight to the death struggle" against the Dalai Lama and his supporters.2 Zhang, who was formally appointed as TAR Party Secretary on May 26 from a senior post overseeing the immigration of Chinese into ethnic Uyghur areas in Xinjiang (East Turkestan), described the Dalai Lama as "the biggest obstacle hindering Tibetan Buddhism from establishing normal order".

TAR Party leaders also focused on the need to "strike hard" against any possible "illegal activities along the railroad" and to "assure the harmony and stability of the Qinghai-Tibet area, particularly the safe operation of the railroad" through legal mechanisms, at a conference in Lhasa on June 15.3 Over the past ten years in Tibet, administrative and legal mechanisms have been developed by the Chinese government that enable them to clamp down on any activities such as religious practice or peaceful protest that could be described as a threat to social stability and national unity, while claiming that they are operating according to a "rule of law".

This report is accompanied by new images of the development of Lhasa and the construction of the railway, demonstrating its impact on the Tibetan landscape and people. The Qinghai-Tibet railway is the most visible and costly element of China's "Great Leap West" (Chinese: xibu da kaifa),4 a high-profile political campaign, initiated by the then Party Secretary and President Jiang Zemin in 1999-2000. This drive to develop the Western regions of the territory claimed by the People's Republic of China affects 56% of China's land area and almost a quarter of China's population, including Tibetans, Uighur Muslims and other "national minorities".
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I think that´s only U.S propaganda
and what is with native americans
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 08:22 PM   #303
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Looser, why don't you go back to Europe and give back the land to the true owners. Then we might consider to let Tibet go.
Aboriginal Australians, like all Australians have the right to vote for anyone to run the Government. Do Tibetans (or anyone else for that matter) have the same right in China?
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 08:23 PM   #304
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STATEHOOD IN HAWAII: REMEMBERING 1959

"A phone call from Governor Quinn in Washington today is expected to set off the biggest wingding in Island history to celebrate Statehood Day. The Governor will ring Hawaii the minute the House passes the Statehood Bill. Since the Bill has already passed in the Senate, this will mean that Hawaii is in…Every church bell in town will begin pealing. Every ship in harbor will blow her whistle. Most folks will do a little shouting of their own, and, of course, there’s nothing to stop you from hula-ing in the streets if you want to."—The Honolulu Advertiser, March 12, 1959

Thousands of Islands did, indeed, do a little "hula-ing" on that historic day 45 years ago. Dixieland bands took to the streets of Waikiki and played music. Teenagers jitterbugged and waved banners at Iolani Palace. Shops closed and car horns sounded. Outside a schoolyard in Honolulu, thousands of children paraded about, waving signs and stopping only momentarily to dutifully recite "The Pledge of Allegiance."

And outside the suddenly obsolete Statehood Commission Office, someone gleefully hung a hastily scrawled sign. The sign read "Out of Business."

The celebration was all because of this: At approximately 10:04 in the morning (Hawaii Standard Time), the U.S. House of Representatives voted 323 to 89 in favor of granting statehood to Hawaii. As the Honolulu Star-Bulletin pointedly observed, "Congress ended decades of procrastination today and sent to the White House a bill to give the Statehood it has so long deserved."

Five months later, on August 21, President Dwight D. Eisenhower made it official, signing the proclamation that welcomed Hawaii as the 50th state of the union. Hawaii had been annexed to the United States in 1898 and became a territory two years later.

Local historians say that it wasn’t until Pearl Harbor was attacked in 1941 that people on the U.S. mainland fully recognized the importance of Hawaii to the rest of the country. Having served faithfully and with patriotic zeal in World War II, Hawaiians assumed statehood was forthcoming. In fact, there are several collectibles (including buttons, record labels and license plates) that proudly proclaim Hawaii as "The 49th State." (That turned out to be premature, as Alaska got the nod in 1958.)

But as Hawaiians discovered, it’s still nifty to be fifty. Hawaii songwriter Harry Owens even penned a tune for the occasion:

"Hawaii is the fiftieth star in the U.S.A.
Aloha means how joyful we are
For at last we are brothers today
We know that you’ll be happy
When Hawaii falls in line
We sing a song of gladness as we
Join the forty-nine."

Today, each third Friday in August is a state holiday: Statehood Day.
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U.S.A are a country build of stolen land

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Old December 23rd, 2006, 08:28 PM   #306
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U.S.A are a country build of stolen land

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At least the USA is a democracy that respects individual human rights, unlike china

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Aboriginal Australians, like all Australians have the right to vote for anyone to run the Government. Do Tibetans (or anyone else for that matter) have the same right in China?
Chinese of Tibetan ethnic have the same rights as any other Chinese of other ethnicity, silly boy. Are you of the opinion, that Tibetan-Chinese should exert more rights than Chinese of other ethnicities? Are you somehow racist?
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yes, but what`s with black population in the Usa
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At least the USA is a democracy that respects individual human rights, unlike china

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Yeah, after extinguishing those savages. Oh, US human rights like My Lai Massacre, Iraq invasion ...
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yes, but what`s with black population in the Usa
I have several black friends who seem ok. When I lived in Beijing I heard of several black african students who were assaulted by racist chinese just because of the colour of their skin.
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Yeah, after extinguishing those savages. Oh, US human rights like My Lai Massacre, Iraq invasion ...
The iraq invasion removed the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. One of the most vicious dictators ever. He was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people including the gassing of many Kurdish women and children.
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Whats the point? The first picture appears to be from the Jim Crow era in the Southern US. The Jim Crow laws were dismantled in the 1950s. The seecond picture appears to be from the aparthied era in South Africa. As I'm sure you are aware, Aparthied was dismantled years ago. Unfortunatly the opression of the Tibetans is happening now.
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The iraq invasion removed the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein. One of the most vicious dictators ever. He was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people including the gassing of many Kurdish women and children.
Yeah, the dictator the US helped to develop the poisoneou gas and provided the weapons to fight against Iran. What a hypocrite.
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I have several black friends who seem ok. When I lived in Beijing I heard of several black african students who were assaulted by racist chinese just because of the colour of their skin.
Now you are mixing individual frictions with state sanctioned discriminations. Can you get more desperate and pathetic?
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yes, gas that he bought from america
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Now you are mixing individual frictions with state sanctioned discriminations. Can you get more desperate and pathetic?
http://moderntribalist.blogspot.com/...-in-china.html
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Whats the point? The first picture appears to be from the Jim Crow era in the Southern US. The Jim Crow laws were dismantled in the 1950s. The seecond picture appears to be from the aparthied era in South Africa. As I'm sure you are aware, Aparthied was dismantled years ago. Unfortunatly the opression of the Tibetans is happening now.
Today america pumps the black people full with
drogs and weapons and say "we are democrazy"

And the most of black people live in ghettos
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yes, gas that he bought from america
Please show me the evidence that the US supplied poisenous gas to Iraq. It is true that at one time the US provided some assistance to Iraq against iran (as did France and several other countries). So what? It was obviously not in anyones interest to allow Iran to become the dominant power in that part of the world. In world war two we were allied with Russia even though Stalin was a dictator, it was appropriate given that Hitler was much worse. We sorted the russians out later on.
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So, what's your point? Where does it say that China has laws discriminating people with dark skin? Pathetic!
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