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Old December 23rd, 2006, 10:43 PM   #341
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actually..the same things applies to china. so learn a little more about chinese history before commenting about "nationalism", "make things look good" etc.

the only difference here is some countires don't start stuff about other countries when they know their countries aren't that perfect either...its called hypocrisy...
Wow, Are you comparing the approach of teaching between France and China ? If it's the case it's very very grave.
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 10:44 PM   #342
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You still haven't answered this question. How come?

um..because china is not a democracy? not that's it's going to change. i don't expect it copy western style government systems anytime soon. Afterall, it existed much longer than usa without a voting system. you know, maybe your country should learn from china.
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 10:48 PM   #343
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Where are you from REM?
FRANCE

Where do you live REM?
FRANCE

You cant accept the ALGERIAN Genocide, because
you are full of false information that you
learned in France school
Of course..... Actually France is one of the countries which is a specialist of the "self-lashing" , many people in my country spit all the time on our history, and our values.
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 10:53 PM   #344
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Wow, Are you comparing the approach of teaching between France and China ? If it's the case it's very very grave.
not that i care about france or algerians or whatever to make a comment about them. i'm just saying you should learn more about other countries history if you want others to understand where you're coming from regarding your own country. i know it may be hard to do if you come from another culture. that's why at least i refrain from involving in arguments regarding other's country's political systems, history etc when my own isn't that perfect either...
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:01 PM   #345
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not that i care about france or algerians or whatever to make a comment about them. i'm just saying you should learn more about other countries history if you want others to understand where you're coming from regarding your own country. i know it may be hard to do if you come from another culture. that's why at least i refrain from involving in arguments regarding other's country's political systems, history etc when my own isn't that perfect either...


The western world cant accept that countries like china, russia
or india getting better
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:04 PM   #346
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not that i care about france or algerians or whatever to make a comment about them. i'm just saying you should learn more about other countries history if you want others to understand where you're coming from regarding your own country. i know it may be hard to do if you come from another culture. that's why at least i refrain from involving in arguments regarding other's country's political systems, history etc when my own isn't that perfect either...
If everybody keep silent, there's no debate, do you know how the world moved forward until now ? by the reciprocal exchange of Ideas, Inventions, of values etc... So we can keep arguing...
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:17 PM   #347
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of course there needs to be some1 who does it. i know i won't be, and certain countries cultures that just don't care. If you want to i'm sure it will make the world better in a way, but i know it will make you look different in my eyes at least.
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:24 PM   #348
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I have a question

Why care france or usa so much about Tibet?
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:30 PM   #349
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:33 PM   #350
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I have a question

Why care france or usa so much about Tibet?
I don't know why they're caring so much about Tibet but it's a very good question, Maybe, but i'm not sure, it's because the Dalai lama is very famous and media-related in the West since he won the Nobel Peace prize, he has become a symbol, Now the tibet cause is "fashion" and it's true sometimes this fad is getting ridiculous...
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:34 PM   #351
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NO! :S

Punish the sinophobic trolls, leave this great thread in peace.
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More than 300 supertall projects on going in China.
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:38 PM   #352
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OK
Atheism bless china
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:46 PM   #353
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But I have also a question

Why Is China so nationalist ? No offense it's just a question, and please No insult, don't answer "ignorant stupid Westerner"

and Is it possible that in some years or decades China become a democracy ? or is it opposing to the Chinese culture ?
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Old December 24th, 2006, 12:00 AM   #354
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There are not nationalist
There are Patrios like americans
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Old December 24th, 2006, 12:04 AM   #355
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There are not nationalist
There are Patrios like americans
it's another vision but you're right..
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Old December 24th, 2006, 12:56 AM   #356
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I wouldn't be so proud of all this. I mean, really amazing! But very kitsch, this is only an opinion and it's ok what others think.
It is not an opinion the condition of construction workers and many others in China. All these buildings are the symbol of the churlish Country of repression which doesn't even know what democracy is and doesn't consider at all civil and human rights. I would be ashamed
Please note that unfortunately this is not an opinion but a fact.
Here are 2 links 4 those who seem to live in another world and don't even consider all this. You can find thousands.

http://hrichina.org/public/contents/...tem%5fid=26787

http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/workers_rights.htm
China has a superb human rights record if you compare it to a "democratic" American one..

1. Occupation of Phillipines & Caribbean
2. Dresden massacre
3. Hiroshima & Nagasaki
4. North Korea
5. Cuba
6. Vietnam
7. Nicaragua contras (and largely all of South America)
8. Palestine (via Israel)
9. Serbia
10. Iraq & Afghanistan

Death toll that is making the Nazis look like minor criminals, and you're talking about human rights? Keep your mouth how it was intended to be... CLOSED!

Also, the economy that is supported by forcing other countries trade goods (including oil) in US dollars... not so democratic, is it?

Good for China!!! Glad to see awesome developments
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Old December 24th, 2006, 12:59 AM   #357
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Ohhh... I almost forgot the genicide of the Native population... 98% reduction

Your whole country was built on murder, American one that is... Who are you to criticize China?
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Old December 24th, 2006, 01:09 AM   #358
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Ohhh... I almost forgot the genicide of the Native population... 98% reduction

Your whole country was built on murder, American one that is... Who are you to criticize China?
Interesting.. I never knew that about skyscrapers.
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Old December 24th, 2006, 01:26 AM   #359
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... It'd be nice if these trolls were banned, that way these threads wouldn't get hijacked.

Perge this thread of the trash and BAN the trolls...
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Old December 24th, 2006, 01:34 AM   #360
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Interesting.. I never knew that about skyscrapers.
LoL... sorry for off-top... that post just pissed me off
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