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Old October 24th, 2006, 12:23 AM   #121
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Again, you are misinfomed. The trucks would enter Interstate Highway 395 EAST of Biscayne. Currently, trucks drive down Biscayne Boulevard, 10th Street and many of our downtown streets. The proposed tunnel ELIMINATES the need for this traffic flow. Please check out the link above and you can see how the trucks do not enter Biscayne Boulevard or any of the downtown streets.
Anyone who's been downtown at 5 in the morning knows what a big pileup this is. It's insane. Something needs to be done, I think we can all agree on that.

If we did run the train, wouldn't you think it would also have to be burried, or at least cut under biscayne blvd, the biscayne wall and possibly futher west? Isn't there also only 1 track going into the port? That would have to be double tracked eventually I assume. If we're looking at what's best for downtown and urbanism I can't see a surface freight rail cutting through downtown working for anything.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 02:07 AM   #122
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... and if the FEC tracks to the port did start to get heavily used, we can all imagine the insane gridlock even a half mile long hourly train creeping and crawling by at 5-20mph would cause throughout downtown Miami. For a preview, hang out near nw 87th avenue by NW 12th street for a few hours some random morning and watch the fun.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 11:17 AM   #123
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WELL TAKING THE SPOT LIGHT OFF THE PORT AND TALKING ABOUT TOLLS I WONDER HOW BROWARD RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO FEEL WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY TO COME WORK IN MIAMI WHEN THEY CROSS THE NEW GOLDEN GLADES INTERCHANGE.










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Old October 24th, 2006, 07:59 PM   #124
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Old October 24th, 2006, 08:12 PM   #125
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THIS SEEMS TO BE AN ARQUITECTONICA PROJECT THROUGH THERE GEO DIVISION THEY WILL BE DOING THE LANDSCAPING.
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Old October 24th, 2006, 10:06 PM   #126
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Wanna see some fireworks check this out Tomorrow.



BRING YOUR BEST DESIGN
IDEAS TO A MIAMI-DADE
TRANSIT EAST-WEST
CORRIDOR STATION
AREA WORKSHOP



Join your neighbors at a design workshop for the proposed
East-West Transit Corridor. Community input is essential to the
success of the Supplemental Draft Environmental Impact Study
currently underway.
The proposed East-West Corridor runs from the Miami
Intermodal Center (MIC) at the Miami International Airport to
Florida International University (FIU).
As part of this study, a new alignment option is
currently being considered, which will extend the
proposed alignment from the Dolphin Expressway
(SR 836) to the entrance of Florida International University
along 107th Avenue. Three new station options are being
considered: Miami International Mall, Sweetwater, and FIU.



Wednesday, October 25, 2006
6:30 p.m. – 8:30 p.m.
Jorge Mas Canosa Center
250 SW 114 Ave., Sweetwater, FL 33174

All Miami-Dade County meeting locations comply with applicable requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Auxiliary aids or services will be
provided upon request with at least five days notice prior to the proceedings. If deaf or hard of hearing, call the Florida Relay Service for assistance at
800-955-8771 (TDD) or 800-955-8770 (Voice). For further information, please contact 305-375-5453.
For additional information, contact:
305-375-5453
marciam@miamidade.gov
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Old October 24th, 2006, 10:13 PM   #127
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The location of this event looks like a political hit job. THe station will be on the FIU engineering campus so why not have it there. There is more space for parking at the FIU campus and more room than this small civic center, I dont think it has the stature to even be a civic center. From looking at google earth it looks like not even 10 parking spaces are at this location. I believe the Sweetwater politicos and the two miami-dade commistioners for this area are to blame. Hosting the meeting at The mas Canosa Center will only attract people whom are against the project. If it was to be held in the FIU engineering campus there would be more of an even ratio. Sorry for my ranting but i had to let that out of my system.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 12:03 AM   #128
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I think those toll-booth designs are sweet!!! They really prepare SoFlo for the 21st century.
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Old October 25th, 2006, 02:53 AM   #129
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umm well i live in Miami in opa Locka and well its just i am corcerned about the Metrorail line going from 27 Ave to browed i mean i really like the idea since i will be going to the university of miami in downtown and i work near where i live i like it that i can catch a bus to the nearest metrorail station go to government center station hop on the metrorover to take me to the university i like that idea why doesn't Miami get through there heads that Mass transit is the awsner but i guess life is like that i go driving around and everything and theres always traffic on the palmetto (826) it sucks alot Miami listen Mass Transit is the future to moblity extend metrorail, i like my car but i don't want to be driving all the time to my university and such all the time
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Old October 25th, 2006, 03:35 AM   #130
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Question:

When the f**k are they going to widen the Palmetto and Don Shula Expressway south of Bird Road? The traffic down here has been god-awful over the past few days. It took me almost 2 hours to get from Kendall to Coral Gables to the airport the other day...WHY???? It would help if there wasn't a god damn accident every 2 seconds...learn to drive people!
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Old October 26th, 2006, 05:44 AM   #131
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We'll that meeting was so one sided. All the Sweetwater people bashing the 107 Ave proposal it was ridiculous. It was so bad that hardly anyone stood up for it. It was another event between the miss informed citizens and their do nothing but follow whatever their citizens say politicians. Miss informed citizens + follow the leader politicians = status Quo


By the way there is going to be a meeting for the Kendall link corridor. Heres the link.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 06:06 AM   #132
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qbanaso what do you expect out Sweetwater residents? Honestly I don't know how they live there with all that flooding. They should have told them it was an elevated pathway that they could use to escape their homes in the aftermath of a hurricane instead.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 06:49 AM   #133
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Qbanaso- Its true , I think people are very misinformed and jump on bandwagons because there peers are.

I think Miami-Dade should design the tranist routes on whats best for the city now and into the future.

If that pisses off some of the citizens now, so be it, there just being selfish and not thinking about future generations of Miamians. Besides, I guarantee they will grow to love not having to sit in gridlock and waste precious hours of there life each day which they could be spending with there family.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 06:50 AM   #134
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Metrorail extension

what do you think of the Metrorail that will go up 27th Ave to browesd i think its an awsome idea but i haven't seen Construction of it yet i thought they started construction of the Metrorail by where pro player stadium is at but it turned out to be walmart i was disappionted when i saw it was a wal-mart its like no one cares about the Metrorail everybody makes fun of the Metrorail while in other cities its a serious mode of transportation
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Old October 26th, 2006, 02:54 PM   #135
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I think only property owners should be allowed to speak out against things like Metrorail. I suspect the people who actually own rental properties near proposed Metrorail stations would be absolutely delighted with future density bonuses that accrue near stations and potential for higher rents.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 05:21 PM   #136
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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15854485.htm



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Not-so-rapid transit: Power outage halts Metromover

BY KATHLEEN McGRORY AND ANDREA TORRES
kmgrory@MiamiHerald.com

An untold number of hapless passengers on the Metromover system learned the perils of mass transit, Miami style, when their cars got stuck between stations this morning for at least half an hour.

It was not clear how many passengers were delayed.

A power failure was to blame, a Metromover worker said.

One car stalled about 9:30 directly in front of The Miami Herald building.

Car No. 27 was zipping between the Bicentennial Park station and the Omni station when it stalled on its elevated tracks, leaving those onboard frustrated, puzzled and, for the moment, with nowhere to go. At some point, the door on the car was opened and roughly a dozen passengers scampered out, walking the tracks to the Omni station. But 23 others remained inside.

''Some people got angry and just walked back to the station,'' said Shawn Washington, 33, a passenger who stayed put. ``I was just hoping it was going to start again.''

Lights and air conditioning continued to function during the shutdown.

After a several-minute wait, a Metromover worker walked the tracks from the Omni station to inform passengers that system operators were aware of their plight.

A message was broadcast over the car's intercom informing passengers that a power failure was to blame.

Finally, after about half an hour, the car made its way to the Omni station. But that's as far as it went. It remained at the station, its doors opening and closing spasmodically. One passenger remained in the car.

Officials expect the system to be operational in half an hour, said Alfred Coakley, a Metromover worker.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 07:17 PM   #137
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Hopefully Mario the folks at MDT do the right thing and fight for the 107 Ave. line. The station on Flagler would generate nearly double the amount of readership than any other station on this extension would generate. It has the potential of being a world class stop better than the South Miami area if planned right. But that’s the problem from the beginning, the planning in Miami is horrendous and when people try to fix it they get accused of braking up the community.

Hopefully the people of Kendall have opened minds towards transit improvements.
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Old October 26th, 2006, 08:32 PM   #138
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Until what point should planners go on public opinion? This is a question which I can't seem to find a resonable answer to. Although I agree It is important to know what the public thinks about a project, I think it is up to the planners to ultimately do what is in the best interests of the region as a whole...
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Old October 26th, 2006, 10:16 PM   #139
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Until what point should planners go on public opinion? This is a question which I can't seem to find a resonable answer to. Although I agree It is important to know what the public thinks about a project, I think it is up to the planners to ultimately do what is in the best interests of the region as a whole...
I guess its more a question of who's public opinion. The public opinion of the whole should outwieigh the public opinion of the few. This is being done by the County and therefore the decisions made should be based upon what is best for the entire county population as a whole, not what is best for people who live in a couple block square area. A similar point of view should be taken with Bay Link.
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Good differentiation Dave. But who is responsible for upholding what is best for the county as a whole? With the Baylink decision made by the Miami-Dade Transit and MPO it makes me believe that nobody is looking out for the best interests of the whole county. If beach residents hadn't originally been so opposed to the project we would have likely already seen secure funding be found from the federal government for the project.

I see the value of community meetings, but, at the same time I wonder if they really are in the best interests of the county, considering that our weak officials so often go by what the minority public opinion tells them to do. We need someone to step up and make some visionary decisions for the best interest of the county. I attribute much of our problems to the very segmented communities and municipalities in Miami...
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