Football Season - Page 20

jozblade · October 31st, 2007, 04:45 PM

Plus who actually buys anything from the club shop? I don't anymore, if i did it would be a shirt at £40. So united would still be getting £35 extra out of me!lol

***dinp*** · November 1st, 2007, 01:11 AM

Utd were soundly beaten by yet another truckload of Arsene Wenger's offshore offerings. Invest in players from THESE SHORES you arse! (pun partially intended)

AndrewC · November 1st, 2007, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinp

Invest in players from THESE SHORES

Why?

***dinp*** · November 1st, 2007, 01:16 AM

Because they're not based in the continent, they're based in London and you'd think that with a club as wealthy as them, they could invest in a youth academy like Man U have and grow some home talent...

jozblade · November 1st, 2007, 01:17 AM

They had a few English lads out there tonight. Landsbury, Walcott, Hoyte, Gibbs.

We were crap tonight though, glad i didn't go!

***dinp*** · November 1st, 2007, 01:19 AM

Well four players out of a squad their size is pretty bad I think. The best players should start each game like, but its no wonder the England national team isn't excelling as we'd like it to when some of the larger teams in the country wont even entertain the home talents.

AndrewC · November 1st, 2007, 01:29 AM

I'm not gonna deny that Arsenals record for developing local talent from a young age is piss poor, but I think Wenger is one of the best in the game for managing and developing young talent - just not from London. I think Wenger himself has bemoaned the fact he can't develop young English players because they're so ridiculously overpriced. When he bough Walcott, he said something like, we can only do this once.

The fact is Arsenal have developed a fantastic side (two fantastic sides? the reserves are pretty sharp!) with far less of the 'buying expensive experienced players' that say Chelsea (Ballack, Shevchenko) have, or the expensive young talent like ManU (£50m for Nani/Anderson) have. I don't like saying spending lots of money is a bad thing, its a very shady area, but I don't mind saying that when some people say Arsenal have too many foreign players, they are missing the point.

***dinp*** · November 1st, 2007, 01:35 AM

Surely if players come through the youth system then the cost should be a lot lower??? Look at the likes of Wayne Rooney, Alan Smith, the Nevilles, Beckham etc - they only cost a lot when they are sold on.

AndrewC · November 1st, 2007, 01:42 AM

You see, this is what I'm saying. I said above that Arsenal seem incapable of producing english talent that can break into the first team*, but to berate them for that to me seems to be overlooking what Arsene Wenger has done with young players on a budget much smaller than his counterparts at perhaps ManU, Liverpool, and certainly less than Chelsea.

*Perhaps we forget that what might seem like average compared to the Arsenal 1st team, is actually still a few good players who have moved to smaller clubs and done well.

AdamBlade · November 1st, 2007, 11:10 AM

Lucky you didn't go Joz, most spineless performance I have seen in about 10 years, we were absolutely awful and don't let anyone make you believe it was because Arsenal were amazing. They were average, we were shocking.

Gutted it was my boyfs first United match

jozblade · November 1st, 2007, 12:53 PM

Were you nearly falling asleep Adam? I know i was watching it on sky. I dread to think what it would have been like at the match.

Also whats this about someone running on the pitch? It didn't show you on sky, they just mentioned it.

jozblade · November 1st, 2007, 12:53 PM

Were you nearly falling asleep Adam? I know i was watching it on sky. I dread to think what it would have been like at the match.

Also whats this about someone running on the pitch? It didn't show you on sky, they just mentioned it.

AdamBlade · November 1st, 2007, 01:04 PM

Yeah someone ran from the Kop right up to Robson without being challenged (shit security) and chucked his scarf at him. Got the biggest cheer of the night. Think he only has the next two home games to turn it around. Hope he does, who else would we get now.

jozblade · November 1st, 2007, 01:20 PM

Mourinho:p

AdamBlade · November 1st, 2007, 01:32 PM

Wouldn't mind

***dinp*** · November 2nd, 2007, 01:21 AM

Jol...?

jozblade · November 2nd, 2007, 01:35 AM

Could be a possibility actually. I'm sure McCabe can stump up for his wages.

Owlingmad · November 2nd, 2007, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinp

Jol...?

Owlingmad · November 2nd, 2007, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jozblade

Could be a possibility actually. I'm sure McCabe can stump up for his wages.

AdamBlade · November 2nd, 2007, 03:34 AM

Rather be a Blade

November 1st, 2007, 01:11 AM	#382
*dinp* Go! Limo! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Corby Posts: 8,645 Likes (Received): 17	Utd were soundly beaten by yet another truckload of Arsene Wenger's offshore offerings. Invest in players from THESE SHORES you arse! (pun partially intended) __________________ CORBY, Northamptonshire The road to Downing Street apparently runs through Corby, but if you prefer public transport, its only 70 mins direct from London & Derby by rail. For more info on Corby as part of the 'North Londonshire' campaign, click here... The views posted here probably differ from those of my employer. Heck, they probably even differ from my own. Always take dinp with a pinch of salt

November 1st, 2007, 01:16 AM	#384
*dinp* Go! Limo! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Corby Posts: 8,645 Likes (Received): 17	Because they're not based in the continent, they're based in London and you'd think that with a club as wealthy as them, they could invest in a youth academy like Man U have and grow some home talent... __________________ CORBY, Northamptonshire The road to Downing Street apparently runs through Corby, but if you prefer public transport, its only 70 mins direct from London & Derby by rail. For more info on Corby as part of the 'North Londonshire' campaign, click here... The views posted here probably differ from those of my employer. Heck, they probably even differ from my own. Always take dinp with a pinch of salt

November 1st, 2007, 01:19 AM	#386
*dinp* Go! Limo! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Corby Posts: 8,645 Likes (Received): 17	Well four players out of a squad their size is pretty bad I think. The best players should start each game like, but its no wonder the England national team isn't excelling as we'd like it to when some of the larger teams in the country wont even entertain the home talents. __________________ CORBY, Northamptonshire The road to Downing Street apparently runs through Corby, but if you prefer public transport, its only 70 mins direct from London & Derby by rail. For more info on Corby as part of the 'North Londonshire' campaign, click here... The views posted here probably differ from those of my employer. Heck, they probably even differ from my own. Always take dinp with a pinch of salt

November 1st, 2007, 01:29 AM	#387
AndrewC Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sheffield Posts: 11,903 Likes (Received): 1	I'm not gonna deny that Arsenals record for developing local talent from a young age is piss poor, but I think Wenger is one of the best in the game for managing and developing young talent - just not from London. I think Wenger himself has bemoaned the fact he can't develop young English players because they're so ridiculously overpriced. When he bough Walcott, he said something like, we can only do this once. The fact is Arsenal have developed a fantastic side (two fantastic sides? the reserves are pretty sharp!) with far less of the 'buying expensive experienced players' that say Chelsea (Ballack, Shevchenko) have, or the expensive young talent like ManU (£50m for Nani/Anderson) have. I don't like saying spending lots of money is a bad thing, its a very shady area, but I don't mind saying that when some people say Arsenal have too many foreign players, they are missing the point. __________________ Any progress on this?

November 1st, 2007, 01:35 AM	#388
*dinp* Go! Limo! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Corby Posts: 8,645 Likes (Received): 17	Surely if players come through the youth system then the cost should be a lot lower??? Look at the likes of Wayne Rooney, Alan Smith, the Nevilles, Beckham etc - they only cost a lot when they are sold on. __________________ CORBY, Northamptonshire The road to Downing Street apparently runs through Corby, but if you prefer public transport, its only 70 mins direct from London & Derby by rail. For more info on Corby as part of the 'North Londonshire' campaign, click here... The views posted here probably differ from those of my employer. Heck, they probably even differ from my own. Always take dinp with a pinch of salt

October 31st, 2007, 04:45 PM	#381
jozblade Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rotherham Posts: 4,056 Likes (Received): 0	Plus who actually buys anything from the club shop? I don't anymore, if i did it would be a shirt at £40. So united would still be getting £35 extra out of me!lol

November 1st, 2007, 01:17 AM	#385
jozblade Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rotherham Posts: 4,056 Likes (Received): 0	They had a few English lads out there tonight. Landsbury, Walcott, Hoyte, Gibbs. We were crap tonight though, glad i didn't go!

November 1st, 2007, 01:42 AM	#389
AndrewC Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sheffield Posts: 11,903 Likes (Received): 1	You see, this is what I'm saying. I said above that Arsenal seem incapable of producing english talent that can break into the first team, but to berate them for that to me seems to be overlooking what Arsene Wenger has done with young players on a budget much smaller than his counterparts at perhaps ManU, Liverpool, and certainly less than Chelsea. Perhaps we forget that what might seem like average compared to the Arsenal 1st team, is actually still a few good players who have moved to smaller clubs and done well. __________________ Any progress on this?

November 1st, 2007, 11:10 AM	#390
AdamBlade @codaplanning Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, S10 Posts: 2,571 Likes (Received): 11	Lucky you didn't go Joz, most spineless performance I have seen in about 10 years, we were absolutely awful and don't let anyone make you believe it was because Arsenal were amazing. They were average, we were shocking. Gutted it was my boyfs first United match

November 1st, 2007, 12:53 PM	#391
jozblade Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rotherham Posts: 4,056 Likes (Received): 0	Were you nearly falling asleep Adam? I know i was watching it on sky. I dread to think what it would have been like at the match. Also whats this about someone running on the pitch? It didn't show you on sky, they just mentioned it.

November 1st, 2007, 12:53 PM	#392
jozblade Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rotherham Posts: 4,056 Likes (Received): 0	Were you nearly falling asleep Adam? I know i was watching it on sky. I dread to think what it would have been like at the match. Also whats this about someone running on the pitch? It didn't show you on sky, they just mentioned it.

November 1st, 2007, 01:04 PM	#393
AdamBlade @codaplanning Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, S10 Posts: 2,571 Likes (Received): 11	Yeah someone ran from the Kop right up to Robson without being challenged (shit security) and chucked his scarf at him. Got the biggest cheer of the night. Think he only has the next two home games to turn it around. Hope he does, who else would we get now.

November 1st, 2007, 01:20 PM	#394
jozblade Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rotherham Posts: 4,056 Likes (Received): 0	Mourinho:p

November 1st, 2007, 01:32 PM	#395
AdamBlade @codaplanning Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, S10 Posts: 2,571 Likes (Received): 11	Wouldn't mind

November 2nd, 2007, 01:21 AM	#396
*dinp* Go! Limo! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Corby Posts: 8,645 Likes (Received): 17	Jol...? __________________ CORBY, Northamptonshire The road to Downing Street apparently runs through Corby, but if you prefer public transport, its only 70 mins direct from London & Derby by rail. For more info on Corby as part of the 'North Londonshire' campaign, click here... The views posted here probably differ from those of my employer. Heck, they probably even differ from my own. Always take dinp with a pinch of salt

November 2nd, 2007, 01:35 AM	#397
jozblade Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rotherham Posts: 4,056 Likes (Received): 0	Could be a possibility actually. I'm sure McCabe can stump up for his wages.

November 2nd, 2007, 03:34 AM	#400
AdamBlade @codaplanning Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sheffield, S10 Posts: 2,571 Likes (Received): 11	Rather be a Blade

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