DUBAI | The Torch | 348m | 1142ft | 86 fl | Com - Page 2

european · August 19th, 2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baqthier

The older design had the Yokohama's tallest going on.

I was thinking exactally the same, i just couldnt remember the name of this tower.

SkyBridge · August 19th, 2006, 01:28 PM

Even though I actually love the designs of Dubai towers (this one is great too!), I still think Dubai will have nor a skyline nor become a metropolitan city. To me, ALL these towers are 'standalone' because even though they are accompanied by more enormous towers in the same street, there is no 'base' to make it look real. Where is the street level action? Where are the 50-120m towers around it? Why do they ONLY seem to build tall? Of course I haven't been there so I'm only judging from pictures. I don't care if Dubai builds another 600 skyscrapers - as long as they don't try to form a coherent city it's not interesting to me.

***AltinD*** · August 19th, 2006, 11:14 PM

Hm ... Ok...

SkyBridge · August 19th, 2006, 11:27 PM

^ Wow, what a contribution!

I guess you didn't get my point. The Torth for example is a GREAT design, but in Dubai it's just that - there is no context. So the same design in Dubai would get a 7 from me, while if it was placed in for example New York it would get a 8.5

malec · August 20th, 2006, 03:51 AM

I guess that's one of the side effects of building everything at once. You have no clue what'll be built next door so context is a much harder thing to do. BTW, there are a whole load of smaller buildings going up aswell, they just don't make it to the world forums

Even business bay which contains super-highrises like the burj al alam still consists mostly of 30-storey towers.

tuga14 · August 20th, 2006, 04:15 AM

I like the oldest

SkyBridge · August 20th, 2006, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malec

I guess that's one of the side effects of building everything at once. You have no clue what'll be built next door so context is a much harder thing to do. BTW, there are a whole load of smaller buildings going up aswell, they just don't make it to the world forums

Even business bay which contains super-highrises like the burj al alam still consists mostly of 30-storey towers.

Mostly 30 storeys isn't midrise or 'context' to me... I'm talking more about the 5-30 storey buildings that form the ground level in most cities.

I'm just saying that if you put Chrysler, ESB, Petronas and Taipei 101 next to each other the effect would be SO different from reality!

Tag_one · August 20th, 2006, 11:36 AM

I think your right, I'm missing low and midrise around them too.

malec · August 20th, 2006, 12:00 PM

Well, I suppose that because of megaprojects like the marina, the skyline will be in patches with clusters of tall towers here and there. The centre of the city looks a lot different though, more like this:

Anyway, we'll have to see how all these new areas turn out.

ZZ-II · August 20th, 2006, 12:15 PM

which city is it?

malec · August 20th, 2006, 12:17 PM

the same city that this tower's getting built in

european · August 20th, 2006, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malec

Well, I suppose that because of megaprojects like the marina, the skyline will be in patches with clusters of tall towers here and there. The centre of the city looks a lot different though, more like this:

Anyway, we'll have to see how all these new areas turn out.

OMG this is dubai, i cant believe it.

Looks like some north african city.

***AltinD*** · August 20th, 2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyBridge

^ Wow, what a contribution!

I guess you didn't get my point. The Torth for example is a GREAT design, but in Dubai it's just that - there is no context. So the same design in Dubai would get a 7 from me, while if it was placed in for example New York it would get a 8.5

No, I understood you completely.

You want to see street level pictures of The Torch aerea?

(50 - 100 meters from the tower itself):

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[IMG]http://************/jshcom.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://************/jshdom.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://************/jshfdl.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://************/jshfza.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://************/jshgg0.jpg[/IMG]

All pictures were taken by me personally, on a weekend (January 6th, 2006)

SkyBridge · August 20th, 2006, 11:53 PM

Thanks for setting the records straight! This looks like a wonderful place to be.

Techno-Architect · August 20th, 2006, 11:57 PM

NICE RENDERS

Techno-Architect · August 21st, 2006, 12:04 AM

84 FLOORS IN 385 MTRS? HMMM......
SHOULD THE HEIGHT HAVE BEEN SMWHR AROUND 475M???

european · August 21st, 2006, 01:17 PM

Altin those are some amazing pics of dubai i've ever seen, looks very tourist friendly and clean as always lol.

Stephan23 · August 21st, 2006, 01:26 PM

Yes it's clean, but I also think it's very loud because construction work!!

Stephan23 · August 22nd, 2006, 10:34 AM

Piling starts in end of september.

Finally

matt_sbs · August 22nd, 2006, 10:38 AM

The city is starting to look very nice at street level.

August 19th, 2006, 01:28 PM	#22
SkyBridge a.k.a. Sequentia Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Antwerp Posts: 17,357 Likes (Received): 81	Even though I actually love the designs of Dubai towers (this one is great too!), I still think Dubai will have nor a skyline nor become a metropolitan city. To me, ALL these towers are 'standalone' because even though they are accompanied by more enormous towers in the same street, there is no 'base' to make it look real. Where is the street level action? Where are the 50-120m towers around it? Why do they ONLY seem to build tall? Of course I haven't been there so I'm only judging from pictures. I don't care if Dubai builds another 600 skyscrapers - as long as they don't try to form a coherent city it's not interesting to me. __________________ The pain was the world, And I could not live outside it.

August 19th, 2006, 11:27 PM	#24
SkyBridge a.k.a. Sequentia Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Antwerp Posts: 17,357 Likes (Received): 81	^ Wow, what a contribution! I guess you didn't get my point. The Torth for example is a GREAT design, but in Dubai it's just that - there is no context. So the same design in Dubai would get a 7 from me, while if it was placed in for example New York it would get a 8.5 __________________ The pain was the world, And I could not live outside it.

August 20th, 2006, 12:15 PM	#30
ZZ-II I love Skyscrapers Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Ingolstadt in Bavaria Posts: 28,427 Likes (Received): 1084	which city is it? __________________ Download the most up-to-date list of all Supertalls on this planet here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22508016/To...ary%202013.pdf Last Tower added: Eurasia - Moscow - 309m The Supertall-City-Ranking: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22508016/Su...ary%202013.pdf Last City added: Changzhou Follow me on Twitter: @Minecraft_87 Visit my Photo-Website: www.foto-kotzur.de

August 20th, 2006, 11:53 PM	#34
SkyBridge a.k.a. Sequentia Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Antwerp Posts: 17,357 Likes (Received): 81	Thanks for setting the records straight! This looks like a wonderful place to be. __________________ The pain was the world, And I could not live outside it.

August 22nd, 2006, 10:38 AM	#40
matt_sbs Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bunbury Posts: 1,102 Likes (Received): 0	The city is starting to look very nice at street level. __________________ Bunbury Tower. Biggest building ouside Perth since 1990

August 19th, 2006, 11:14 PM	#23
*AltinD* The Modecator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tiranë / DUBAI / Vienna Posts: 29,854 Likes (Received): 712	Hm ... Ok...

August 20th, 2006, 03:51 AM	#25
malec Rrrraaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 10,452 Likes (Received): 23	I guess that's one of the side effects of building everything at once. You have no clue what'll be built next door so context is a much harder thing to do. BTW, there are a whole load of smaller buildings going up aswell, they just don't make it to the world forums Even business bay which contains super-highrises like the burj al alam still consists mostly of 30-storey towers.

August 20th, 2006, 04:15 AM	#26
tuga14 _tuga14_ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 4,190 Likes (Received): 15	I like the oldest

August 20th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#28
Tag_one Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nieuwegein/Holland Posts: 691 Likes (Received): 0	I think your right, I'm missing low and midrise around them too.

August 20th, 2006, 12:00 PM	#29
malec Rrrraaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 10,452 Likes (Received): 23	Well, I suppose that because of megaprojects like the marina, the skyline will be in patches with clusters of tall towers here and there. The centre of the city looks a lot different though, more like this: Anyway, we'll have to see how all these new areas turn out.

August 20th, 2006, 12:17 PM	#31
malec Rrrraaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 10,452 Likes (Received): 23	the same city that this tower's getting built in

August 20th, 2006, 11:57 PM	#35
Techno-Architect BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I s l a m a b a d-__-L a h o r e Posts: 1,398 Likes (Received): 35	NICE RENDERS

August 21st, 2006, 12:04 AM	#36
Techno-Architect BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I s l a m a b a d-__-L a h o r e Posts: 1,398 Likes (Received): 35	84 FLOORS IN 385 MTRS? HMMM...... SHOULD THE HEIGHT HAVE BEEN SMWHR AROUND 475M???

August 21st, 2006, 01:17 PM	#37
european Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,448 Likes (Received): 7	Altin those are some amazing pics of dubai i've ever seen, looks very tourist friendly and clean as always lol.

August 21st, 2006, 01:26 PM	#38
Stephan23 Bonsai Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Munich Posts: 7,398 Likes (Received): 3	Yes it's clean, but I also think it's very loud because construction work!!

August 22nd, 2006, 10:34 AM	#39
Stephan23 Bonsai Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Munich Posts: 7,398 Likes (Received): 3	Piling starts in end of september. Finally

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