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Old August 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM   #61
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Delgado St. becomes Timawa Ave., Molo upon reaching Infante Ave., while Avancena St., Molo becomes Quezon St., Arevalo upon reaching Dulonan.

Rizal St., Iloilo City becomes Infante Ave., Molo upon reaching Timawa and then is called B. Aquino Jr. Ave. (Diversion Road) upon entering Mandurriao
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even in bacolod.. can u still remember that in streets intersecting lacson have names like 1st street, 2nd street, 6th st in mc do, etc....

these streets have already been renamed. if i am not mistaken the 6th street has been renamed as puaki v. ferrer st.

there's also a street there nga gin rename as Butuan street. giving credit to the old city in misamis. ambot ano na sya nga number sang una.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 03:58 AM   #63
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it means: General Luna, Iloilo City & Luna, Iloilo City? ang naglain lang gid ang GENERAL?
Actually, Gen. Antonio Luna Street and Juan Luna Street gid na dapat... Mahilig kita abi mag shortcut sng mga ngalan ka dalanon... perfect example is EDSA.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 04:06 AM   #64
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Actually, Gen. Antonio Luna Street and Juan Luna Street gid na dapat... Mahilig kita abi mag shortcut sng mga ngalan ka dalanon... perfect example is EDSA.
Add this. Delgado Street is Martin Delgado Street. JM Basa is for Jose Maria Basa Street. Shortcuts talaga.

Tuod-tuod lang, galingin ulo ko kon kis-a sa mga ngalan nga nagalain-lain.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 05:49 AM   #65
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Add this. Delgado Street is Martin Delgado Street. JM Basa is for Jose Maria Basa Street. Shortcuts talaga.

Tuod-tuod lang, galingin ulo ko kon kis-a sa mga ngalan nga nagalain-lain.
i remember the JM Basa St when my teacher taught i think SocSci subject about the history of that street (but i forgot the history now) when i was studying @ ACSI along JM Basa.

ga samo na ang Bacolod & Iloilo sa dri nga thread ba, di bali ilonggos man

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Old August 31st, 2006, 05:59 AM   #66
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Wednesday, August 30, 2006

16 Governors Meet Today On Trans-Visayas Bridges

BY CARLA P. GOMEZ


The majority of the 16 governors of the Visayas and several Cabinet members are meeting at the Provincial Capitol in Bacolod City this afternoon to discuss the proposed Trans-Visayas Friendship Bridges linking the islands of Bohol, Mactan, Cebu, Leyte, Negros, Guimaras and Panay, Gov. Joseph Marañon said yesterday.
Expected at the meeting are Public Works and Highways Secretary Hermogenes Ebdane Jr., Secretary Romulo Neri of the National Economic Development Authority, Energy Secretary Raphael Lotilla and Silvestre Bello III -- Philippine Reclamation Authority general manager.
The meeting will be presided over by Bohol Gov. Erico Aumentado, national president of the League of Provinces of the Philippines. Marañon said Negros Occidental will present a video on the proposed bridge linking Negros and Panay islands that will serve as the gateway to the Visayas mega region.
This will accelerate eco and agri-tourism industries, potential investments and business opportunities, he said. The bridge is envisioned to look like the East Bay Bridge connecting San Francisco and Oakland, that accommodates 280,000 cars per day.Meanwhile, environmentalist-lawyer Antonio Oposa, who heads the Visayas Squadron, will give updates on the Guimaras oil spill during the meeting. Lt. Gen. Hermogenes Esperon, Armed Forces chief of Staff, will discuss the AFP program to promote cooperation between the military and the local government units in the Visayas.*CPG

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Old August 31st, 2006, 08:00 AM   #67
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Wednesday, August 30, 2006

16 Governors Meet Today On Trans-Visayas Bridges

BY CARLA P. GOMEZ


The majority of the 16 governors of the Visayas and several Cabinet members are meeting at the Provincial Capitol in Bacolod City this afternoon to discuss the proposed Trans-Visayas Friendship Bridges linking the islands of Bohol, Mactan, Cebu, Leyte, Negros, Guimaras and Panay, Gov. Joseph Marañon said yesterday.
Expected at the meeting are Public Works and Highways Secretary Hermogenes Ebdane Jr., Secretary Romulo Neri of the National Economic Development Authority, Energy Secretary Raphael Lotilla and Silvestre Bello III -- Philippine Reclamation Authority general manager.
The meeting will be presided over by Bohol Gov. Erico Aumentado, national president of the League of Provinces of the Philippines. Marañon said Negros Occidental will present a video on the proposed bridge linking Negros and Panay islands that will serve as the gateway to the Visayas mega region.
This will accelerate eco and agri-tourism industries, potential investments and business opportunities, he said. The bridge is envisioned to look like the East Bay Bridge connecting San Francisco and Oakland, that accommodates 280,000 cars per day.Meanwhile, environmentalist-lawyer Antonio Oposa, who heads the Visayas Squadron, will give updates on the Guimaras oil spill during the meeting. Lt. Gen. Hermogenes Esperon, Armed Forces chief of Staff, will discuss the AFP program to promote cooperation between the military and the local government units in the Visayas.*CPG

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So the bridge connecting Iloilo-Guimaras-Negros would look like this:
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Old August 31st, 2006, 09:17 AM   #68
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So the bridge connecting Iloilo-Guimaras-Negros would look like this:
Bohol, Mactan, Cebu, Leyte, Negros, Guimaras and Panay.

good looking.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 09:54 AM   #69
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Sa diin ta pangita kwarta paubra sina?
I like the plan though. At least magsakay na lang ko bus papuli Iloilo.

But I think these bridges are not toll-free. This MAY be the Visayan equivalent of NLEX, SLEX & Coastal Road (Manila-Cavite) na may toll-gates, etc.

If this pushed throughm it'll be featured on National Geographic Channel's Megastrctures show. The Akashi-Kaikyo Bridge took decades to materialize.

Hopefully, studies would start now, para bisan apo ko na lang ang maka-tabuk sa taytay.

Ahay, ti paano na ang fastcraft service pag-nahuman na?
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Old August 31st, 2006, 12:11 PM   #70
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Thursday, August 31, 2006

P10B needed to realize Negros-Panay bridge

* If approved and funded, the project is expected to be completed in three to four years

AT LEAST P10 billion or P1 billion per kilometer is needed for the proposed Negros-Panay Translink Bridge said Negros Occidental Governor Joseph Marañon Wednesday.

That is, if his preferred alternative route, which is from Tomongtong Point in Negros' E.B. Magalona town to San Juan Point in Banate town, Panay island is carried.

The Tomongtong-Banate route has an actual distance of 15.5 kilometers. However, the government can cut on cost for at least 5.5 kilometers, thus reducing the budget to only P10 billion instead of the P15.5 billion.

Marañon said the 5.5-kilometer distance will not cost as much because these portions are shallow and would not need as much materials as those in the deeper portions.

The proposal was presented Wednesday during a special meeting of the Visayas governors held at the Negros Occidental Governor's Conference Hall.

"The project is expected to be completed in three to four years, and considering the magnitude of the budget, it would need foreign assistance," Marañon also said.

Meanwhile, Marañon is also set to ask Bohol Governor Erico Aumentado, president of the League of Provinces of the Philippines, to request the National Government for foreign funding or access to foreign loans at a concessional rate should the proposed bridge push through.

The Negros-Panay bridge is part of the proposed Cebu-Negros-Panay (CNP) bridge aimed at physically linking these three islands and boost its tourism, trade, commerce and investments. It is a part of the Trans-Visayas bridges, which will link the islands of Bohol, Mactan, Cebu, Leyte, Negros, Guimaras, and Panay.

All these are under the Trans-Visayas-Mindanao Highway/Waterway Linkage, generally known as the Strong Republic Nautical Highway (SRNH) of the Mega Region project of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

The SRNH, connecting the islands of Luzon, Mindoro, Panay, Negros, and Mindanao, has enhanced the public access to goods and services aside from creating new and bigger markets for inter-island trade and tourism activities, Marañon said.

He backed his claims by presenting a data, which showed that Leyte and Panay islands constitute more than 60 percent share of the total cargo by seaports.

Leyte ranks first in passenger traffic, Aklan, Iloilo, and Negros Occidental are the most visited places in Western Visayas, while Cebu enjoys the lead in the distribution of travelers in Central Visayas.

Meanwhile, the Department of Public Works and Highways, (DPWH) also presented a separate proposal to construct a bridge connecting Panay and Guimaras island, and another connecting Guimaras and Negros island, Marañon said.

The Negros-Guimaras bridge, however, would cost a bigger budget compared to the proposed Negros-Panay bridge.

This as Negros to Guimaras is about 22 kilometers in distance while the route from Tomongtong Point in E.B. Magalona to San Juan Point, Banate in Panay island is only 15.5 kilometers.

As construction cost estimates is pegged at P1 billion per kilometer, the Tomongtong-Banate route, which can be cut by 5.5 kilometers, can be reduced to only P10 billion, as against the P20 billion needed for the Negros-Guimaras bridge, Marañon said.

A more accurate estimate would be disclosed after a feasibility study shall have been conducted, he said.

Marañon said the Banate-Tomongtong option is cheaper because both Banate and Tomongtong are less than three kilometers away from the national roads and will thus be more accessible to commuters.

Farfetched

"The Negros-Panay bridge seems a farfetched goal, but we have to start it now. If not now, then when? And if not us, who else will?" Marañon queried.

As a result, nine out of the 16 Visayas governors that came to the meeting agreed with the proposed project Wednesday.

These include Governors Salvacion Zaldivar-Perez of Antique, JC Rahman Nava of Guimaras, Neil Tupaz of Iloilo, Marañon of Neg. Occ., Erico Aumentado of Bohol, Gwendolyn Garcia of Cebu, George Arnaiz of Negros Oriental, Orlando Fua Sr. of Siquijor and Rogelio Espina of Biliran.

Presidential Adviser for Western Visayas Rafael Coscolluela, Philippine International Trading Corporation Chairman and President Roberto Pagdaganan, and Armed Forces of the Philippines Chief Hermogenes Esperon were also present.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/bac...ay.bridge.html
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This is one visionary project worthy to be implemented. When realized, this will geographically link both islands of Panay and Negros. Also, this could foster the societal link that we need to have a unified, cooperative and progressive Western Visayas. I hope this doesn't stay as a dream but instead put into reality.
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So the bridge connecting Iloilo-Guimaras-Negros would look like this:
The East Bay Bridge connecting San Francisco and Oakland, USA is the model structure Marañon wants to follow for the Negros-Panay Bridge. (Sun.Star Bacolod photo)


A map showing the areas where bridges will interconnect the Visayan islands prepared by Pacific Consultants International.*
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Old August 31st, 2006, 01:52 PM   #73
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Bacolod City, Philippines Thursday, August 31, 2006

Make trans-Visayas bridges
a priority, guvs urge Arroyo
Pre-feasibility study
underway, foreign investors interested


BY CARLA GOMEZ
The governors of the Visayas yesterday afternoon passed a resolution urging President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo to make the Trans-Visayas Friendship Bridges linking the islands of Bohol, Mactan, Cebu, Leyte, Negros, Guimaras and Panay a priority project, Negros Oriental Gov. George Arnaiz said.

A pre-feasibility study on the trans-Visayas bridges being conducted by the Pacific Consultants International is expected to be completed by December, Bohol Gov. Erico Aumentado said.

Aumentado, president of the League of Provinces of the Philippines, Arnaiz, and seven other governors of the Visayas, met at the Provincial Capitol in Bacolod City yesterday afternoon where the bridges were on top of their agenda.

Arnaiz said the feasibility study is expected to cost P128 million.

The governors passed a resolution to ask the national government to pay for 50 percent of the study while the provinces to be interconnected by the bridges will pay for the other 50 percent, he said.

The estimated budget for the bridges made last year, which did not include Leyte yet, was P114 billion at P1 billion a kilometer, Arnaiz said.

If we continue to press the national government to help build the bridges, something may happen, he said.

A German bank has already expressed willingness to fund the project, Arnaiz added.


Pacific Consultants International, a Japanese consulting firm, has given us a concept paper on the bridges and is conducting the pre-feasibility study pro bono, Aumentado said.

When that is done, an actual feasibility study will be made, which will include detailed engineering and will determine sources of funding because it is a huge undertaking that the Philippine government, standing alone, cannot fund, he said.

"It's a vision and the President has realized that it is the fastest way of linking the Visayas region," he said.

All the governors of the Visayas support this project that will accelerate economic development and services, Aumentado said.

Negros Occidental Gov. Joseph Marañon said that while the Department of Public Works and Highways proposal is to build a bridge from Negros to Guimaras that would be 20 kilometers long, he believes it will be cheaper to build one from Tomontong, EB Magalona to Banate, Iloilo that will only be 15 kilometers long, of which 5 kilometers will be over shallow waters.

However, all of these will depend on a feasibility study, he said.

The national government can fund the bridges or the provinces can be given access to foreign loans at concessional rates, he said.

They can also be built on a build-operate-transfer scheme, wherein toll fees can be charged to those using the bridges to get a return on investment, he said.

Marañon said that, while he does not believe the bridge building will be finished during his term as governor, what is important is that the planning stage starts now.

If we don't start now, then when will we? he asked.

He would prefer that the Panay-Negros bridge be built first but he is encouraging the other governors to participate so the building of the bridges in their areas can be simultaneous, the governor added.

Biliran Gov. Rogelio Espina said his province will benefit from the proposed bridges because it is connected to Leyte that will be connected to Bohol on to Cebu.

"We believe that the development of a province needs the development of the region," he said.

Siquijor Gov. Orlando Fua Jr. said while Siquijor will not be connected by a bridge it will still benefit from the plan.

We will just have to strengthen our roll on-roll off facilities to compensate for the non-building of a bridge, he said.

Of course, the bridge will not reach Antique but the benefits will reach us so I hope this becomes a reality, Antique Gov. Salvacion Perez-Zaldivar said.

Everything starts with a dream and then it becomes a reality, she said. There are many groups prepared to finance these bridges, like the Germans and the Koreans, and the President is supportive of the move, she said.

Others at the meeting were governors Gwendolyn Garcia of Cebu, Neil Tupas of Iloilo and JC Rahman Nava of Guimaras, Presidential Adviser for Western Visayas Rafael Coscolluela, Bacolod Mayor Evelio Leonardia, Roberto Pagdanganan - Philippine International Trading Corp. chairman and president, and Lt. Gen Hermogenes Esperon - Armed Forces of the Philippines chief of staff.*CPG
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^yes! at last! They're thinking about it. I really hope that this would materialize very soon or even at least the feasibility study so we could know the probability of building the bridges. I'm very hopeful for the visayas!
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There was already a study with Panay-Guimaras leg of the bridge eversince the 80's. I've heard that there was already an authority for it but later it was shelved.

The big thing here is how to link Negros to Guimaras and Cebu. 15 kilometers of trecherous waters. Suspension bridges here in the Philippines is a hard construction, imagine the country is visited by typhoons and monsoons.

But this is a megastructure. If they found oil/natural gas in Tañon Strait, then there would be a budget that is independent from loans, etc.
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There was already a study with Panay-Guimaras leg of the bridge eversince the 80's. I've heard that there was already an authority for it but later it was shelved.

The big thing here is how to link Negros to Guimaras and Cebu. 15 kilometers of trecherous waters. Suspension bridges here in the Philippines is a hard construction, imagine the country is visited by typhoons and monsoons.

But this is a megastructure. If they found oil/natural gas in Tañon Strait, then there would be a budget that is independent from loans, etc.
dapat gid nga e megastructure nila para mabakod if when it comes the calamities & tragedies. para thousands nga generations maguba.
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sorry gid Taz08 for now wala pa gid. gapangita pa ko gani. ga ask ko sa mga online friends ko if they have na. dont worry i will post here if i have already.
zyanz, tni bskan ang sa google earth na lng...
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zyanz, tni bskan ang sa google earth na lng...
@ the previous thread IV. ok i'll help you to find & post here again. musta ka gali? bz ka gid cguro sa schooling or job mo da sa Bacolod. ako mis ko na gid ang Bacolod. lapit na man lng end of semestral ara naku da dayon. malagaw koda sa south points of Neg Occ.
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P10B needed to realize Negros-Panay bridge

* If approved and funded, the project is expected to be completed in three to four years

AT LEAST P10 billion or P1 billion per kilometer is needed for the proposed Negros-Panay Translink Bridge said Negros Occidental Governor Joseph Marañon Wednesday.

That is, if his preferred alternative route, which is from Tomongtong Point in Negros' E.B. Magalona town to San Juan Point in Banate town, Panay island is carried.

The Tomongtong-Banate route has an actual distance of 15.5 kilometers. However, the government can cut on cost for at least 5.5 kilometers, thus reducing the budget to only P10 billion instead of the P15.5 billion.

Marañon said the 5.5-kilometer distance will not cost as much because these portions are shallow and would not need as much materials as those in the deeper portions.

...Meanwhile, the Department of Public Works and Highways, (DPWH) also presented a separate proposal to construct a bridge connecting Panay and Guimaras island, and another connecting Guimaras and Negros island, Marañon said.

The Negros-Guimaras bridge, however, would cost a bigger budget compared to the proposed Negros-Panay bridge.??????

.....This as Negros to Guimaras is about 22 kilometers in distance while the route from Tomongtong Point in E.B. Magalona to San Juan Point, Banate in Panay island is only 15.5 kilometers.????????

As construction cost estimates is pegged at P1 billion per kilometer, the Tomongtong-Banate route, which can be cut by 5.5 kilometers, can be reduced to only P10 billion, as against the P20 billion needed for the Negros-Guimaras bridge, Marañon said.??????

A more accurate estimate would be disclosed after a feasibility study shall have been conducted, he said.

Marañon said the Banate-Tomongtong option is cheaper because both Banate and Tomongtong are less than three kilometers away from the national roads and will thus be more accessible to commuters.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/bac...ay.bridge.html
I think the figures above are not accurate. Two separate bridges from Negros to Panay and Guimaras are just not practical. A bridge from E.B. Magalona to Banate is also not practical, as it will not serve its purpose, i.e., to link Negros-Guimaras-Panay at the shortest point, which is at the Pulupandan-Sibunag and Buenavista-La Paz area.
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I think the figures above are not accurate. Two separate bridges from Negros to Panay and Guimaras are just not practical. A bridge from E.B. Magalona to Banate is also not practical, as it will not serve its purpose, i.e., to link Negros-Guimaras-Panay at the shortest point, which is at the Pulupandan-Sibunag and Buenavista-La Paz area.
i agree. that's my prospects too.
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