chinese car thread

[soup or man]

Originally Posted by snowmancn

Chery A6 designed base on the European standard

Hmmm...

Suzuki SX4


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[snow is red]

hmm.... I think the italian designer Bertone did a wonderful job there

[el palmesano]

Brilliance BC3


Brilliance M2

[gladisimo]

BC3 is so ugly, looks like an old MG.

The M2 looks like a coss between a BMW and a Acura RL. Looks very messy.

[Shukie]

You haven't seen ugly yet:

[MARACUCHisimo]

In Venezuela you can find dealers of Chery, Geely, Great Wall Motors GWM, Hafei, Landwind, Saic-Wuling and Zhongxing and all the cars they sale are AWFUL (BTW i don't want to offend chinise people at SCC)

[MARACUCHisimo]

ohhh and Chana!

[zergcerebrates]

Originally Posted by MARACUCHisimo

In Venezuela you can find dealers of Chery, Geely, Great Wall Motors GWM, Hafei, Landwind, Saic-Wuling and Zhongxing and all the cars they sale are AWFUL (BTW i don't want to offend chinise people at SCC)

I guess Chinese cars are different at different markets. We will truly see how the Chinese car quality is when they arrive in the USA. I heard they are planning on entire new line of models(by brilliance).

[snow is red]

Originally Posted by MARACUCHisimo

In Venezuela you can find dealers of Chery, Geely, Great Wall Motors GWM, Hafei, Landwind, Saic-Wuling and Zhongxing and all the cars they sale are AWFUL (BTW i don't want to offend chinise people at SCC)

Thanx for the info

[KB]

Originally Posted by Shukie

You haven't seen ugly yet:

Whoever made that design is devoid of any aesthetic sense, unless it was really an "who can make the ugliest car" competition.

I like the cherry and Geely though.

[Huhu]

I think it's supposed to resemble a clog (dutch shoe).

[VikramRao]

Originally Posted by oliver999

SUV looks all this shape,no surprise.

what ??? SUVS do not look the same, a range rover does look like ceo suv from china, but if ceo decides to copy it bit for bit, part for part, youre righ it will look the same.

[FK]

Originally Posted by Shukie

You haven't seen ugly yet:

I'm sure it has a small engine, otherwise there is no chance this car will stay on the road! Look at the aerodynamics, the car will fly off the road the moment it touches 70-100!

[hkskyline]

China rolls out first self-designed hybrid car

SHANGHAI, Dec 15 (Reuters) - China's state-owned Chang'an Automobile group has started making its own hybrid cars, the first such move by a Chinese automaker, the Xinhua news agency reported.

Mass production of the Chinese-designed car, which consumes 20 percent less fuel than ordinary cars of the same size, was launched after six years of research and development, Xinhua said late on Friday.

"This shows Chinese automakers have grasped the core technology of making hybrid cars," the report said, adding that Chang'an will donate 10 such vehicles for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

The Chang'an group controls listed Changan Automobile Co , a Chinese partner of Ford Motor Co and Mazda Motor Corp . The listed arm, based in the southwestern city of Chongqing, is also China's largest mini-van maker.

Demand for hybrid cars is negligible in China, where petrol is subsidised and the impact of polluting factories on local neighbourhoods is more the focus of environmentalists than larger issues such as global warming.

Fuel economy figures little in consumers' purchasing decisions in China. Hybrid cars are also expensive since the government offers buyers no incentives to purchase them.

Toyota Motor Corp was the first carmaker to build hybrid cars in China. General Motors Corp said last month it would begin producing a hybrid car in China from next year, in time for the Beijing Olympics in August.

Japan's Nikkei said the hybrid vehicle made by Chang'an is based on a 2-liter compact wagon that will be able to travel 100 kilometres (62 miles) on 6.8 litres of gasoline, and it will be officially released next year.

The new hybrid is close in size to Toyota's Prius hybrid, which the Japanese automaker has assembled and sold in China since late 2005, the Nikkei said.

Chinese sales of the Toyota hybrid were down 86 percent in the first 10 months of 2007 from the same period a year earlier to 299 units, as the vehicle's 300,000 yuan ($40,700) price tag dampened its popularity, it said.

Changan's new offering will cost around 150,000 yuan, roughly 20,000 yuan more than the base vehicle but just half as much as the Prius, the Nikkei said.

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[snow is red]

Originally Posted by hkskyline

China rolls out first self-designed hybrid car

SHANGHAI, Dec 15 (Reuters) - China's state-owned Chang'an Automobile group has started making its own hybrid cars, the first such move by a Chinese automaker, the Xinhua news agency reported.

Mass production of the Chinese-designed car, which consumes 20 percent less fuel than ordinary cars of the same size, was launched after six years of research and development, Xinhua said late on Friday.

"This shows Chinese automakers have grasped the core technology of making hybrid cars," the report said, adding that Chang'an will donate 10 such vehicles for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

The Chang'an group controls listed Changan Automobile Co , a Chinese partner of Ford Motor Co and Mazda Motor Corp . The listed arm, based in the southwestern city of Chongqing, is also China's largest mini-van maker.

Demand for hybrid cars is negligible in China, where petrol is subsidised and the impact of polluting factories on local neighbourhoods is more the focus of environmentalists than larger issues such as global warming.

Fuel economy figures little in consumers' purchasing decisions in China. Hybrid cars are also expensive since the government offers buyers no incentives to purchase them.

Toyota Motor Corp was the first carmaker to build hybrid cars in China. General Motors Corp said last month it would begin producing a hybrid car in China from next year, in time for the Beijing Olympics in August.

Japan's Nikkei said the hybrid vehicle made by Chang'an is based on a 2-liter compact wagon that will be able to travel 100 kilometres (62 miles) on 6.8 litres of gasoline, and it will be officially released next year.

The new hybrid is close in size to Toyota's Prius hybrid, which the Japanese automaker has assembled and sold in China since late 2005, the Nikkei said.

Chinese sales of the Toyota hybrid were down 86 percent in the first 10 months of 2007 from the same period a year earlier to 299 units, as the vehicle's 300,000 yuan ($40,700) price tag dampened its popularity, it said.

Changan's new offering will cost around 150,000 yuan, roughly 20,000 yuan more than the base vehicle but just half as much as the Prius, the Nikkei said.

($1=7.3715)

Chang'an may be the first but certainly not the last, Chery and Lifan are also trying to develop their own hybrid engines.

[snow is red]

Brilliance, Chery become first local brands to meet EU-IV standards

Shanghai. December 14 (Gasgoo.com) – Some car models made by Brilliance Auto and Chery Auto have recently passed EU-IV emission tests made by the Environmental Protection Bureau of Beijing.

The Environmental Protection Bureau of Beijing announced earlier this month to implement EU-IV emissions in the city before the Olympic Games next year.

The bureau has recently approved 200 vehicle models that could meet EU-IV emission standards. While the vast majority the 200 models are foreign or joint venture brands, Brilliance and Chery are the only local automakers whose models have been approved by local authorities.

Brilliance Auto has 9 Jingbei passenger vehicle models and 5 Zhonghua sedan models approved by the local authorities.

Chery has one mini-MPV model codenamed Qilin 2 and two sedan models codenamed A1 (1.3 Liter), QQ (1.3 Liter) approved by local authorities.

"By next year, Chery may have one or two models that cannot meet EU-IV standards, or not allowed to be sold in Beijing area,” said Li Feng, deputy manager of Chery Auto. “It takes time for all Chery-made vehicles to meet this standard.”

[snow is red]

BYD iron battery engine

[snow is red]

China's Lifan launches its own developed VVT engine

Shanghai. December 5 (Gasgoo.com) -Chongqing-based Chinese automaker Lifan Automobile recently unveiled self-developed 1.8L VVT (Variable valve timing) engine, which makes it the first Chinese automaker to develop such technology on its own.

"Lifan has been committed to developing its own engines and this furthers our efforts to deliver new engine technology to customers, "said Hu Qi, general manager of Lifan Sales Company, adding that the newly developed engine will be equipped on various Lifan models.

The company has signed a Heads of Agreement with Britain Ricardo PLC to develop a new family of car engines and transmissions starting October 2006. The collaboration aims at providing Lifan with internationally competitive powertrain products and technologies to facilitate its continued expansion.

As one of China's biggest private motorcycle manufacturers, Lifan obtained automobile production license from government in 2005. By October this year, the company has sold 40,000 vehicles and it expected to sell 50,000 this year. Lifan has set up assembly lines in Russia, Vietnam, Egypt, Iran and Ethiopia.

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Lifan passes E-mark accreditation

Shanghai. November 16 (Gasgoo.com) - Chongqing Lifan Group, one of China's leading motorcycle makers, have passed E mark accreditation from Netherland authorities, which indicates Lifan’s products can enter 18 European countries.

Lifan said every aspect of Lifan 520 car, including exterior parts such as lamps, tires, glasses, horns, and seats can well meet the requirements of the regulations.

The E mark is based on ECE regulations issued by the Geneva-based Economic Commission for Europe. It is the proof of compliance with directives (laws) required by the European Union. The Council of European communities in Brussels issues these directives and all members must accept approved products.

It allows auto manufacturers to demonstrate to existing and potential customers that their product meets the applicable automotive EMC requirements. Some of the automotive "extras", such as car stereos, alarm systems, power sunroofs, mobile phone adapters, navigational systems and high-mounted stop lamps, are also under scrutiny for EMC.

It can also simplify the certification process for the manufacturer significantly, i.e. if all relevant electronic and electric systems have been individually approved, no further testing is required on the vehicle. Additionally, components which are covered by the Automotive EMC Directive and comply with the EMC Directive 89/336/EEC may be marked with the CE Marking.

Earlier this month Lifan announced that its Lifan 520 sedan produced by the company's assembly line in Russia has passed the Europe R-94 crash test. The company also announced a $160mln worth export contract with Russian partner AutoMir after it passed the Russia crash test.

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Chinese automakers looking to gain a foothold in new technologies

SHANGHAI, China - One experimental clean-energy car runs on natural gas. Another uses ethanol distilled from corn. A third has a zero-emissions electric motor powered by a hydrogen fuel cell.

These alternative vehicles were created not by a global automaker but by China’s small but ambitious car companies, which displayed them Sunday alongside gasoline-powered sedans and sport utility vehicles at the start of the Shanghai Auto Show.

At a time when they are still trying to establish themselves in international markets, Chinese automakers are already investing in such avant-garde research in a bid to win a foothold in the next generation of technology.

“This is the tide of the industry. If you don’t go with the tide, the industry will pass you by,” said Qin Lihong, a vice president of China’s biggest domestic automaker, Chery Auto Co., in an interview ahead of the show’s opening.

China’s communist leaders are encouraging the development as part of efforts to cut pollution and rising dependence on imported oil and to make this country a creator of profitable technologies.

Chinese manufacturers are getting help from foreign automakers in joint ventures and from research alliances with Chinese universities and government laboratories.

Beijing has made cleaner cars a policy priority, targeting the field as one of 11 priority areas in a 15-year technology development plan issued in February 2006. It promised grants and tax breaks to support industry efforts.

The campaign embodies one of Beijing’s strategies in technology development: Pick new areas with no entrenched competitors so China can make breakthroughs without huge costs.

While foreign automakers have a lead in conventional technology, “in new energy we’re starting from almost the same line,” said Chen Hong, the president of Shanghai Automotive Industries Corp.

“So we believe we can catch up with other auto companies and make great progress in developing new energy vehicles,” Chen said.

China’s leaders are pressing its auto, steel, manufacturing and other industries to improve energy efficiency and cut pollution.

They see China’s rising reliance on imported oil as a strategic weakness, especially since much of it comes from the politically volatile Middle East and crosses seas beyond Beijing’s control.

China already is the world’s No. 2 oil consumer after the United States and saw imports soar by 14.5 percent in 2006, driven by economic growth that has topped 10 percent for the past four years.

A boom in car sales has added to smog shrouding China’s major cities, which are among the world’s dirtiest. Vehicle sales jumped 25.1 percent last year to 7.2 million units, including 3.8 million passenger cars.

At the Shanghai show, both SAIC and Chery displayed experimental fuel-cell sedans, while they and a third Chinese automaker, Chang’an Automobile Group Co., also showed gasoline-electric hybrids.

SAIC said it will start selling its hybrid next year, while Qin said Chery’s would go on the market in two to three years.

“The hybrid will be our focus,” SAIC chairman Hu Maoyan said at a news conference. “The fuel cell will be our direction.”

SAIC has spent 100 million yuan ($12 million) on fuel cell research, according to state media.

Chery had the widest array of alternative vehicles on display at the Shanghai show. They included models outfitted to run on bio-diesel made from vegetable oil or a “flexible fuel” choice of compressed natural gas or ethanol.

Foreign automakers also are playing a role in China’s research.

General Motors Corp. has a joint-venture technology center with SAIC in Shanghai and operates three experimental fuel cell buses in the city. DaimlerChrysler AG has three of its own fuel cell buses running regular routes in Beijing in a research project with the technology ministry.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18261452/