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Old August 11th, 2006, 11:54 PM   #141
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those arent official designs, just mockups.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:18 AM   #142
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.....to be honest...i really donīt like the "new" design of the freedom tower...it looks damn boring...and the antenna is just ridiculous...
i prefer the old libeskind-conception. it was modern, beautiful and a great symbol for a fantastic city....but anyway...money rules the world....
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:20 AM   #143
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Security concerns, not money, changed the design of One World Trade Center.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:37 AM   #144
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I think the other buildings would be better with flat roofs.
For the upteenth time, those are just place holders until the new designs are revealed on the 20th.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:40 AM   #145
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The model looks a bit eastern... be cool if it is NY style BIG, WHAM and gorgeous.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:44 AM   #146
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I dont think it is very good, it looks very comfortable, yet I feel it should be chalenging.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 12:56 AM   #147
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@ skyscraperjunky:

but even a safe building can look nice...and not like a slightly turned WTC. in my opinion itīs still the moneything and not security...maybe a less high building would be more safe? (4 floors for example, hehehe)
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Old August 12th, 2006, 01:00 AM   #148
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Could be money the NY port authority were concerned the money was not there to complete the project.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 02:18 AM   #149
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but even a safe building can look nice...and not like a slightly turned WTC. in my opinion itīs still the moneything and not security...maybe a less high building would be more safe? (4 floors for example, hehehe)
They had to change a lot and it was over concerns by the NYPD. They never really changed the height of the occupied floors.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 02:33 AM   #150
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Man spook you've been doing alot of digging. That diagram with the path arrows is pretty vintage. I wanna get in the game on this too but i'll wait to see more structural steal, it's not a short walk away but i can certainly walk it to record this sensational project. Yes "sensational".
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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:01 AM   #151
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nice job Spook finding all that stuff.

Another stat that I enjoy: Ten years from now, New York's 15 tallest buildings will include 8 buildings from the 21st century, all of these by architects widely considered to be the best of our time. 5 others will be our pre-war beauties, the greatest period of skyscrapers ever.

And that's just considering those approved or u/c. The west side hasn't even seen its first proposal yet.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:32 AM   #152
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Yeah krull came around one day and posted the Hudson Yards approval for tax breaks for the west side. Its only a matter of time before it gets hot, and buildings shoot up like a ****** heroin addict.

These things go under the radar amongst the international community. NYC is still hustlin folks.

I try to educate the ones who want to know, not the ones who disrespect and disregard every important development that comes out.

'My city is building tall now, to hell with yours' is the mentality around here.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:36 AM   #153
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Chicago and New York will always have the upper hand when it comes to aesthetics and diversity. No city can go back and build pre-war art deco skyscrapers, etc.
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Think about how picture perfect Downtown will be within 6 years, and Midtown.

They will have two skylines worthy of taking up 2 spots on a skyline list.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 09:00 AM   #155
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In six years the New York Skyline wil once again take our breaths away like it did a few years back. Not saying that it still isn't a gorgious sight today; but in six years it will feel more complete. I live in Chicago on the north side and I've been to NY on several buisness and vacational occations. I have to say no flucking city in the world can ever EVER compare to these city's. Nope not even Dubai, Shanghai, and Hong Kong will ever compaire to Chicago and New York. Chicago and New York is where the skyscraper was born! They can build a half mile high skyscraper but it will never NEVER have the same effect and feeling as if it was build in New York and Chicago!
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Old August 12th, 2006, 09:06 AM   #156
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Nicholas --> Give it 100 years and no one will really see much difference. There's not much difference between the 1920's and 1990's when you're sitting there in 2100. For us today, is there really that much difference between the buildings of 1820 or 1890?
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Old August 12th, 2006, 09:24 AM   #157
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^ yes, in fact, there's a huge difference between pre-Victorian and Victorian architecture!
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Old August 12th, 2006, 10:33 AM   #158
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I don't really like the way it has a hat on its head.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 11:35 AM   #159
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hey Spooky thanks for the articles. The thing you fail to understand is that Burj Dubai is like Freedom Tower, just the centrepiece of a new development area. Im not that competent in Dubai projects, mby some Dubai people can really say how many cranes etc will be there? But please, lets stop being so offtopic right now.... Im sure the Trade centre site will look dazzling, but you got to realise its not the whizbang biggest you want it to be.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 11:44 AM   #160
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Nicholas --> Give it 100 years and no one will really see much difference. There's not much difference between the 1920's and 1990's when you're sitting there in 2100. For us today, is there really that much difference between the buildings of 1820 or 1890?
Not really!
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