SARAJEVO - construction update IX

[MIMICA]

Originally Posted by LordMarshall

cool but now the ambassadors and the rich will live there.

I don't see anything wrong with that.

[MIMICA]

Originally Posted by sale

what money?... they dont have the 150 million they said they did. that is the problem. so take their money if they have any and then ship them out.



i'm all for religious tolerance. mosques churches synygogue sand temples should be built everywhere in sarajevo. why not?.... it will keep people in jobs.

building a wahaabi mosque, i dont believe will create to many more converts. and if it does... so what. its just a more literal interpretation of islam. its not some terrorist cult. these wahabis are alright by me.... they do however scare the living shit out of me and give me the creeps. imagine what the serbs think of them. hehe.... they should be encouraged to leave the federation and go live in rep. serbska, where their penchant for scaring the local population will be better served.

No man, I don't mean that mosques shouldn't be built in Sarajevo, of course they should.

[LordMarshall]

Originally Posted by MIMICA

I don't see anything wrong with that.

i do

i wont be living there

[Krasna Sreča]

Originally Posted by sale

what money?... they dont have the 150 million they said they did. that is the problem. so take their money if they have any and then ship them out.



i'm all for religious tolerance. mosques churches synygogue sand temples should be built everywhere in sarajevo. why not?.... it will keep people in jobs.

building a wahaabi mosque, i dont believe will create to many more converts. and if it does... so what. its just a more literal interpretation of islam. its not some terrorist cult. these wahabis are alright by me.... they do however scare the living shit out of me and give me the creeps. imagine what the serbs think of them. hehe.... they should be encouraged to leave the federation and go live in rep. serbska, where their penchant for scaring the local population will be better served.

Too many mosques says something...A society gone wrong.

I'm all against building way too many religious objects, if they need one build it if they don't then don't build it. Of course if its something impressive and has to do with religion like some kind of very nice museum or church or mosque with actual unique modern design then build it. But regular mosques and churches and whatever else all over the city is a big no no.

[MIMICA]

Originally Posted by LordMarshall

i do

i wont be living there

Hehehe.

[LordMarshall]

Delegacija Grada Sarajeva koju predvodi gradonačelnica Borovac u posjeti pobratimskom gradu Friedrichshafenu
Sarajevo, 22.8.2006

Na poziv gradonačelnika Friedrichshafena Josefa Buchelmeiera, gradonačelnica Sarajeva Semiha Borovac sa vijećnicima u Gradskom vijeću Idrizom Hodžićem i Farukom Sijerčićem boravi u zvaničnoj posjeti ovom njemačkom gradu, s kojim će Sarajevo iduće godine proslaviti 35. godina partnerskih veza.

- U porodici od 25 pobratimska grada, Sarajevo s ponosom ističe dugogodišnje i bogato partnerstvo sa Friedrichshafenom, s kojim se malo koji gradovi danas mogu pohvaliti. Bez obzira na različite kulture i jezike, veliku geografsku udaljenost, naše građane je zbližio duh partnerstva – istakla je gradonačelnica Borovac, te dodala da je "Friedrichshafen mali grad sa velikim srcem".

U razgovoru sa svojim domaćinom Josefom Buchelmeierom i njegovim saradnicima, gradonačelnica Borovac se složila da se kontinuitet dobrih odnosa treba nastaviti, ali i unaprijediti preko projekata iz oblasti lokalnog biznisa i turizma, te organiziranjem sajamskih manifestacija. S obzirom da je Friedrichshafen grad tehnologije i avioindustrije, predstavnici firmi i Udruženja zanatlija u razgovoru sa delegacijom Grada Sarajeva iskazali su spremnost da prime pet do deset naših mladih stručnjaka na tromjesečnu ili polugodišnju praksu, kako bi se osposobili i dobili certifikat za upravljanje i rukovođenje malim i srednjim preduzećima. Tokom prakse, bio bi im obezbjeđen smještaj i učenje jezika. Također je dogovoreno uspostavljanje parlamentarne saradnje između stranaka koje participiraju u Gradskim vijećima Friedrichshafena i Sarajeva.

Gradonačelnica je predložila, a domaćini prihvatili, da se iduće godine na godišnjicu jubileja organizira manifestacija "Dani Sarajeva u Friedrichshafenu" i "Dani Friedrichshafena u Sarajevu". Jubilej bi se obilježio i darivanjem sarajevske česme građanima ovog prijateljskog grada, odnosno darivanjem fontane Grada Friedrichshafena Sarajevu.

Gradonačelnica Borovac je zajedno sa njemačkim umjetnikom Helmutom Lutzom otvorila izložbu "Zvučni brod i Zvjezdani put na istoku i zapadu, dugi put pomirenja", koju je ovaj naš osvjedočeni prijatelj posvetio Sarajevu, gradu susreta kultura Istoka i Zapada. Nakon prezentacije u Parizu, Krakovu, Pragu, Rimu, Atini i Istanbulu, skulptura "Zvjezdani put", u koju je sedam godina ovaj umjetnik utkao svoju ljubav, našla je trajno mjesto u bh. prijestolnici. Duhom bosanske muzičke baštine, Damir Imamović sa svojim "Trio"-om, obogatio je ovu izložbu izvedbom autentične bosanske sevdalinke.

Uvjerena da će se nastaviti dosadašnja saradnja između gimnazija i muzičkih škola ovih dvaju gradova, gradonačelnica Borovac je izazila zahvalnost građanima i Gradu Friedrichshafena na pomoći bh. prijestolnici u vrijeme agresije, te na sanaciji i doniranju savremene medicinske opreme DZ "Omer Maslić".

Link: http://www.sarajevo.ba/ba/stream.php...&pid=453&kat=2

[sale]

arêteixion:
Too many mosques says something...A society gone wrong.

well some might say that its society gone right. having strip bars and brothels is society gone wrong. its just a matter of what services you use. i dont go to too many brothels so i dont think too many are needed. ont he other hand many will disagree. similarly with mosques. just because you dont go doesnt mean there isnt a need for them.

while you are unlikely to find me in a mosque i would prefer that the youth of sarajevo go the mosque then break into my car and stal things form me to fuel a drug addiction.

this is construction thread..... and construction is used to make peoples lives better. so if any construction will lower crime rates.. i am all for it.

[LordMarshall]

hmm

got good points there. but then again Sarajevo is rebuilding so it is natural to see old Mosques reborn. im all for that. if they stay within our traditional motif. but im against the petro-dollar structures with no souls poping like popcorn around our beloved country.

[sale]

by: lordmarshall
if they stay within our traditional motif. but im against the petro-dollar structures with no souls poping like popcorn around our beloved country.

this is interesting, at first i thought the wahabi mosques were very cheap and plain looking. but after reading into it i found that this is kind of their ideology. sort of purity of the mind/ purity of architecure. very minmimalist and devoid of any unnecessary decoration and the like. wahabi's are a lot like born again chrstians. very minimalistic, very plain in their tastes.

compare the tiny lutheran churches to the grandiose cathederals of the catholics, similarly

just as the protestants abhor the catholic crosses and motifs and stain glass windows, the wahabi's reject the classical ottoman designs in favour of something very plain.

plain as i have found does not = cheap.

this is a picture of the sarajevo king fahd mosque. it covered in beautiful high quality marble.



close up.......



and inside....... notice how its very plain. no caligraphy or beautiful motifs that you find in mosques like the aya sofia in istambul. this is in order to avoid distracting you in your communications with g*d.



while we are at it... i though i'd include a picture of the sarajevo synagogue and centre located on a hill overlooking the city

[Pavle4488]

Mislim da bi Alija bio sretan da vidi u sta su pretvorili Sarajevo.

[ZLK]

Just wanted to say that I don't care if they're going to build more Mosques or Churches
I myself am Muslim (Not the most religious one ), I think that building more Mosques and Churches is okay aslong as they're decent.
It's only contributing to make Sarajevo an even more multicultural city

I wish that we had more money to put into this city (And the whole of Bosnia). But especially Sarajevo...
Look at all of this we've acomplished with a pretty low budget (I think it's low... ) Imagine what we could do if we had loads of money? :P

[LordMarshall]

SARAJEVO: RECOVERY OF "BUILDING OF FRIENDSHIP” OF BiH AND GREECE TO BE COMPLETED BY NEXT SPRING

SARAJEVO, August 22 (FENA) – Reconstruction of the “Building of Friendship” of BiH and Greece at the Marijin-Dvor in Sarajevo should be completed by spring, said the BiH Deputy Minister of Civil Affairs, Zoran Tesanovic, and the Ambassador of the Republic of Greece to BiH, Konstantina Mavroskelidou.

After touring the facility on Tuesday, Tesanovic and Ambassador Mavroskelidou expressed satisfaction with the dynamic of activities on recovery of the building despite the initial problems.

“There were minor setbacks in the beginning of the year due to problems concerning customs and tax exemptions, but now the dynamic of the works is satisfactory”, Tesanovic told the media.

The Government of the Republic of Greece is participating in funding the project of recovery and reconstruction of the “Building of Friendship” with 13.497.916 euro (80, 39 percent), while BiH participates with 3.292.916 euros (19, 61 percent).

The Greek Ambassador said this is an important project, which symbolizes friendship and cooperation between the two countries, as well as the Greek support to the speedy admission of our country into the EU.

She expressed assurance that the recovery would be completed on time after which the facility would be handed over to the BiH authorities, and added that this could be a pilot project for other future projects.

Link: http://www.fena.ba/public2_en/Catego...s_id=FSA429092

[MIMICA]

Originally Posted by Yoѕѕarian

Mislim da bi Alija bio sretan da vidi u sta su pretvorili Sarajevo.

Come on Pavle, that's just uncalled for.

[mirza-sm]

Originally Posted by Yoѕѕarian

Mislim da bi Alija bio sretan da vidi u sta su pretvorili Sarajevo.

yebi im mater kako su ih pravili tako će ih skidati otom potom

[LordMarshall]

now now people dont let this go on to a 5 page debate

[Krasna Sreča]

Originally Posted by Yoѕѕarian

Mislim da bi Alija bio sretan da vidi u sta su pretvorili Sarajevo.

Hajde, nije ni Banja Luka nista bolja ovih dana.

Anyhow after the war its true they started building more and more but its sort of slowed down to only rebuilding. Personally if they build so many mosques or w/e other religious objects in Sarajevo I doubt they are going to stay there long because as population grows and space is needed for other more important things like jobs I'm pretty sure people will pick Jobs over a mosque.

Anyhow as far as I have seen I have not heard of new mosques poping up in Sarajevo but I could be wrong. Anyone know? Any religious objects being built or is it just rebuilding?

[Krasna Sreča]

Originally Posted by sale

this is interesting, at first i thought the wahabi mosques were very cheap and plain looking. but after reading into it i found that this is kind of their ideology. sort of purity of the mind/ purity of architecure. very minmimalist and devoid of any unnecessary decoration and the like. wahabi's are a lot like born again chrstians. very minimalistic, very plain in their tastes.

compare the tiny lutheran churches to the grandiose cathederals of the catholics, similarly

just as the protestants abhor the catholic crosses and motifs and stain glass windows, the wahabi's reject the classical ottoman designs in favour of something very plain.

plain as i have found does not = cheap.

this is a picture of the sarajevo king fahd mosque. it covered in beautiful high quality marble.



close up.......



and inside....... notice how its very plain. no caligraphy or beautiful motifs that you find in mosques like the aya sofia in istambul. this is in order to avoid distracting you in your communications with g*d.



while we are at it... i though i'd include a picture of the sarajevo synagogue and centre located on a hill overlooking the city

Dude if you are trying to be nice to Bosniaks then just talk about building or w/e. Like 80% of us don't even care about nre mosques or what ever, we want skyscrapers so the city looks nice not religious objects side to side or every other block. This isnt the middle east, they tried to bust in and make everyone all hardcore but didn't accomplish it. Bosnia just isn't the middle east I mean for god sake did you see the Sarajevo Festival pictures? They serve alcohol outside...And muslims drink it...Sure there is the ones that don't but most of the young and up till their 50's 60's and even older drink.

Plus I mean come on, do you guys want to know what I saw while we were walking to the store and there was a mosque over the street in Sarajevo...

This chick walks out takes her cloth off her head and this guy grabs her under her skirt and starts touching her while she giggles and they ride away...My mom was all don't watch them!!! cuz i was like 7 lol.

Thats what most Bosniaks are like...Plz...and lets face it, none of you can argue against this, you can deny it but w/e you know most of these things are true.

Anyhow this is not an argument just an explenation... I guess you can call it.


Sorry for the spelling doing homework

i.e. Overly religious people suck, all they do is talk about god and get insulted easily. This girl spent like the whole year trying to tell me I cant cuss cuz god is watching me. Freaking pshyco.

[sale]

by:arêteixion
Dude if you are trying to be nice to Bosniaks then just talk about building or w/e.

i am talking about buildings. i was just trying to explain why a particular building looks the way it does.

i think a huge mosque covered in high quality marble and granite is an asset to any city regardlss of what you think of the religion.

to me its a purely architectual discussion. the wahabi mosque is beautiful to me and in many ways a lot prettier then the traditional ottoman mosques.

ok bosnia is not middle east.. thats for sure... btu there is ntohign wrong with the middle east.... have you been there? they are about 100 years ahead of bosnia and the balkans when it comes to infrastruture and development. hmmmm. how long do you think it will be before croatia builds an artificial island in the adriatic that will house 40.000 poeple?

dont fall into the western european trap of believing that civilisation stops at greece. its a big world out there.

[SpotlessMind]

Originally Posted by Yoѕѕarian

Mislim da bi Alija bio sretan da vidi u sta su pretvorili Sarajevo.

I know! And he has Slobo and Rado to thank for! Bosniaks would haver never been this hung up on religion without them and the war. How ironic!

[MIMICA]

Originally Posted by arêteixion

Dude if you are trying to be nice to Bosniaks then just talk about building or w/e. Like 80% of us don't even care about nre mosques or what ever, we want skyscrapers so the city looks nice not religious objects side to side or every other block. This isnt the middle east, they tried to bust in and make everyone all hardcore but didn't accomplish it. Bosnia just isn't the middle east I mean for god sake did you see the Sarajevo Festival pictures? They serve alcohol outside...And muslims drink it...Sure there is the ones that don't but most of the young and up till their 50's 60's and even older drink.

Plus I mean come on, do you guys want to know what I saw while we were walking to the store and there was a mosque over the street in Sarajevo...

This chick walks out takes her cloth off her head and this guy grabs her under her skirt and starts touching her while she giggles and they ride away...My mom was all don't watch them!!! cuz i was like 7 lol.

Thats what most Bosniaks are like...Plz...and lets face it, none of you can argue against this, you can deny it but w/e you know most of these things are true.

Anyhow this is not an argument just an explenation... I guess you can call it.


Sorry for the spelling doing homework

i.e. Overly religious people suck, all they do is talk about god and get insulted easily. This girl spent like the whole year trying to tell me I cant cuss cuz god is watching me. Freaking pshyco.

he was simply talking about the architecture of these new mosques, that's all. he never said bosniaks shouldn't drink alcohol, or grab a girl's ass.

people completely exagerate the number of mosques being built, which sort of pisses me off. not that i'd care, but it's honestly trying to make sarajevo seem almost...non-progressive. i've seen more under reconstruction (yes, meaning those from ex-yugo) in sarajevo, than ones u/c in most of bosnia.