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Old December 5th, 2006, 11:31 PM   #321
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....and finally thanks to the good people at London Underground Blogspot (http://london-underground.blogspot.com) I can include an image of the map I did for the MMOTW book.
Thanks, MarkO, for putting it online!! As I told you earlier I love that map! I'm glad that many geographical and spelling errors from the first edition have been fixed but I still found some (not that I was looking for them, but I have a sixth sense ). Is this second edition also available as a poster from London Transit Museum?

Some errors:
Hanover (only one n in English).
Tehran
Shenzhen
Kharkov
Munich and Brescia seem to share the same station
Linz is not between Munich and Nuremberg
Xian, China has a metro u/c
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:28 AM   #322
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That world map is seriously cool!
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:26 AM   #323
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Click for big.

Here's a fantasy map of Toronto I made. The original plans were by someone else in pdf file, but I made it into an image and changed a few things for a piece of fiction I was writing. Original credit for most of the ideas goes to Warren Schnurr.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:45 AM   #324
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this is a splendide idea! i didn't know Auckland has some kind of metro system.
Auckland hasn't got a full metro system, same for Sydney, Melbourne and some other cities...
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Yo si la ciudad no tiene metro, como que no es gran ciudad y entonces ya paso de vivir allí. Norreport+12000
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Old December 6th, 2006, 06:05 AM   #325
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this is a splendide idea! i didn't know Auckland has some kind of metro system.
The map is loosely based on the London Underground. Given the placing of the other cities in Australia somthing had to fill in the place of New Cross station on the East London line. One solution would be to move Jakarta down to Aukland and replace Jakarta with Cebu which has been trying to get a system similar to Manila going. The entire South American network is the Picadilly line running through Heathrow. Maybe the Croydon Tramlink should be used to show South Africa, Australia and New Zealand where there isn't a metro system per se but something more in line of the Tramlink.


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I've got my own variation of the map but I'm still tweaking some details and settling on station names. I've also included the streetcar network on the map. Just trying to find an audience to settle some of the details.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:50 PM   #326
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World Metro Map

Cheers for all the suggestions and comments, Micro's spellings well noted!

Map was originally intended as way to show all the cities in the MMOTW book (with the much repeated proviso that we included some cities that were not metro's in the strictest sense - Stuttgart, Manchester, Lausanne, Jacksonville, San Diego, the Australian cities etc being just a few examples). Those places were included (as opposed to, for example Croydon, or some of the other equally valid light rail cities which were not included) simply because they had interesting maps, often used to give the impression of a metro-like service.

Auckland and Bangalore for example had plans to build Metro's though gather Auckland's now dropped theirs, but the map was worth including. Plus Gil is right about needing more southern hemisphere systems to balance it out.

Defining which is or is not a real Metro isn't an exact science as more and more hybrid systems emerge (should we for example include all monorails? modern low floor tram systems etc?). Problem with extending boundaries too wide is that a book of maps of every single rail-based system would become unwieldy, so we had to excercise a bit of restraint! Not surprisingly more and more older material turns up all the time, much of which I'd love to include in future editions, and same story with the fantasy maps, but we'll have to see how space restrictions go :-)

A properly updated poster may be available next year! Keep y'all posted.

Love the Toronto Fantasy system too TDude!

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Old December 6th, 2006, 11:17 PM   #327
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Fantasy Manchester

....and while we are at it, here's another fantasy map (for visual delight and world-wide giggling at how poor the UK is nowadays at digging new tunnels - well outside London any rate!)

The idea started with wondering what to do with the core spine (Oxford Road/University/Fallowfield/Withington) which is one of the busiest bus corridors in Europe and certainly would qualify for being converted to light rail at the very least, had it have been in any other major Euro country but Britain! However as that route passes along quite narrow roads (especially through Rusholme) the idea for burying any future tram lines and then extending the routes into a fully fledged fantasy metro (or pre-metro) seemed an obvious leap.

Most of the other routes are just there to make the map look nice (although they do 'serve' many areas which are not well connected to any other urban rail now or planned) but hey who says we can't play?! Especially love the idea of Manchester having a station called "Opera" (one of the most common metro station names in the world) and "Royal Exchange" (because it just sounds so grand), plus since Manchester really does have a Victoria and a Piccadilly station whose to say they might not name future urban rail routes after these mainline stations???!!!

Hang on! Just having a brief re-draw of that map! It'll be back later

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Old December 7th, 2006, 05:20 AM   #328
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@MarkO:
Correct "Palmero", it is "Palermo".
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Old December 18th, 2006, 12:12 AM   #329
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Old December 18th, 2006, 12:16 AM   #330
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[IMG][/IMG]here is some ideas i had befor the cristie report was released it looks pretty similar but more intergrated and affordable
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Old December 18th, 2006, 12:24 AM   #331
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[IMG][/IMG]this is a more refined version that includes operational details and the new south west rail link slc=single level cars if tokyo can get by without bilevel cars so can sydney. the red line is a congestion charging line

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Old December 21st, 2006, 10:49 AM   #332
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another future map of Rome

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Old December 22nd, 2006, 12:26 PM   #333
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[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]here is some ideas that i had for LA it helps separate metrolink and freight trains allowing much better frequencies on metrolink (3ish trains per hour each way on all lines). simpler opperation and more integration with the subway and light rail.

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Old December 22nd, 2006, 12:38 PM   #334
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[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]here is some ideas that i had for LA it helps separate metrolink and freight trains allowing much better frequencies on metrolink (3ish trains per hour each way on all lines). simpler opperation and more integration with the subway and light rail.
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Old December 22nd, 2006, 12:44 PM   #335
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[IMG][IMG][/IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]here is some other ideas to help out the amricans
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 06:33 PM   #336
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I don't like when a rail line crosses itself!
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 06:44 PM   #337
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 10:14 PM   #338
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About that "Broad Street Line" extension in the 2nd map, I guess. Looks like unfavourable city planning and I don't like it either. A circle line would be better.
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Old December 25th, 2006, 10:28 AM   #339
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circle line? my plan makes the broard street line into a circle line and the extention to the west is an option that is currently under consideration. even though the the line would cross its self the opperation would be very simple. from my investigations phily's transport seems to suffer from a lack of transfer options so my plan seeks to address this so commuter can transfere between services and vastly expand their range of accessable destinations
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Old December 25th, 2006, 12:25 PM   #340
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ok, this is not a future map, but an often-mentioned example for a good public-transport-system in germany. karlsruhe (295.000 inh.)



grey lines are regional buses, and the colored lines are the tram lines, and I think they are wel developped for a city of 295.000 inhabitants
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