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Old January 22nd, 2010, 12:44 PM   #641
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CHELSEA-HACKNEY

Well I cannot find a pictoral reference to that station name but have found a few bits and bobs that might interest you:

This first one is not an official strip map so thanks to whoever designed it (we'll take it down if you don't approve of it being here!):
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Here as you can see it's shown stopping at BOTH Piccadilly AND Totty Ct Rd:
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This is definately from an official source, produced in 2007, so post-Boris very little is likely to happen but gives you and idea of what the thinking inside TfL was once:
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 02:31 PM   #642
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^ Now that I do like! I think that maybe it could be better executed, but I love all the lines! The trams, the water front transit and the fact that the North and South look equally matched at last! And the East seems to have more than the West! Wow, if dreams were to come true...thanks for the find!

On a second look, the Disabled signs really do annoy me! Find another system or just make them all disabled friendly please!
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 02:44 PM   #643
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Thanks Marko for posting those. I think I've seen them before, but interesting is the split in the line down to Woolwich (!). Never seen that officially proposed. Anyway, there are several things I despise about Chelsea-Hackney line.

1. As a 'tube' line it has too few stations and unashamedly duplicates services along most of its route.
2. As a Crossrail line, according to official schemes, it has too many stations and does not get out far enough. eg. to Harlow or Hampton Court. In the proposed plan it is also seen running in tandem with the central to Epping and the District to Wimbledon, which it was supposed to 'replace'. Am I missing something?

So it seems to me the powers that be are dithering between a tube line and a 'crossrail' line and have no idea which it is.
That's why in my map I'm making it a full blown adult XXX Crossrail line.

I do like the idea of a west end central station. The truth is the platforms are so long it would cover most of soho anyway and with three lines going through, say, the station would be huge and you could have entrances at TCH, Ox circus, Cambridge Circus.

I don't like Crossrail trying to be tube and so I despise the piccadilly circus station, as I loathe bond street and I utterly can't comprehend having the Sloane Square station (sometimes mooted, sometimes not).


When I get into that last TFL map btw, there are a lot of stinkers, but best not t go into that here...
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 03:51 PM   #644
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^you raise good points, especially about there being 1 West End Platform with multiple entrances, though would that be hard to convey on a map? I reckon there should be a central stop, a stop in the Chelsea Borough, a Stop in the NE Central (Euston or KX I guess) and then one in the South-Western Area before doing the more long distance stations such as Staines or Hampton or what have you. I can only really give my opinion on Central though as that is where I live. I would love to see CR bring more vitality to the West End. There really is so so much missed potential. If I were on that council.....

Anyway, I don't think I've posted my final map for the Island. I've also attached 2 varying signs which could be found at stations...

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2156/seaview.png
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 04:28 PM   #645
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Very nice map! You're even more of an optimist than I am! What software did you use?
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 04:30 PM   #646
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Optimism is my failure. It's one of the reasons I don't going into Urban design, because I know half of my ideas wouldn't make it. That is what SimCity is for!

Illustrator. I know somebody doing a more creative degree
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 06:49 PM   #647
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Here's version 4. River thames added and Chiltern rail networked in. Slow Met services given back to LUL to run out to Uxbridge.

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Old January 23rd, 2010, 02:03 AM   #648
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Another one of my loony Merseyrail drawings...

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Old January 23rd, 2010, 03:30 PM   #649
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I don't know the area that well, but from what I've seen before, that diagram looks a lot more clear and the spurs much easier to understand. I prefer curves on thin systems. That would be my only personal suggestion. Love the logo! Is that official or your own?


EDIT:
Something I'm working on in my spare time...
It's not really fantasy, more folly I guess.
The colours aren't that garish on the original...



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Old January 24th, 2010, 02:53 AM   #650
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DELETE! Double Post

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Old January 24th, 2010, 04:27 AM   #651
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Here goes version 5...
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Old January 24th, 2010, 12:20 PM   #652
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Again, excellent work Lucky Lucas
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Old January 24th, 2010, 07:39 PM   #653
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Thanks Getting there. Not long to completion now. Then I'll just need £60 bn or so.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 07:48 AM   #654
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^ In London (and most of England), I reckon the money is the easy bit. It's the NIMBYs, regulations and laws and such that cause a lot of the problems. I admire your work though
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Old January 25th, 2010, 09:06 AM   #655
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lucky lukas: line 5 can do with an extra branch on the Western End. It's taking over two busy commuter lines on the Eastern side, but only one not-so-busy Metropolitan branch to Watford.

Maybe do run trains along the northern end of line 7 as well...
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Old January 25th, 2010, 03:55 PM   #656
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Thanks. Am currently reappraising the SW routes so I may end up merging 4 and 5 and cutting back some services. I might also withdraw LOROL to being what its actually going to be, i.e. make the thing more realistic.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 07:09 PM   #657
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^ In London (and most of England), I reckon the money is the easy bit. It's the NIMBYs, regulations and laws and such that cause a lot of the problems. I admire your work though
Nah, just in London & the South East. In the rest of the UK, the money's the most difficult bit, as the government is much more reluctant to invest in infrastructure.
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Old January 25th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #658
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With all due respect for the interesting discussion, but this thread is about Fantasy Network Maps, not about the fantasy networks themselves...

Maybe this thread should be split?
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lol
But fantasy network maps are about fantasy networks!
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Old January 28th, 2010, 01:09 AM   #660
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Version 6! Evolving still. More detailed discussion on the UK transport and planning forum...
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