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Old September 13th, 2013, 02:35 PM   #1361
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Sorry for misinterpreting the circle map paradigm thing,but thanks for that.I've heard of Maxwell Roberts already
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Old September 13th, 2013, 03:17 PM   #1362
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Yes, he's actually quite active in the realm of map making. I really do like his investigations into design paradigms and experiments on map design. It's given me quite some insight in how map design actually works, what factors to take into account and how certain design paradigms work better in one situation/network layout, while others are more applicable to other network layouts.

You should really read his 'Underground maps unravelled' - probably the most detailed book on (metro) map design thus far.

But apart from that, I'm glad he didn't get assigned to redesigning the official New York Subway map...
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Old September 13th, 2013, 07:23 PM   #1363
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The first time I read about circular transit maps was on the transit maps blog.

I think they look cool but that New York one will suffer the same fate as the famous Vignelli design where the latitude of each station is so distorted tourists will think they can walk from Queens to Yankee stadium.
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Old September 13th, 2013, 10:29 PM   #1364
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One of the problems with circular maps is that they cater to an inherently ill-designed network. The type of network we all strive to achieve (or at least we should...) is one based on utilizing efficient transfer points on a grid wherein the rider can get from any point to any other point in the network/city in the most direct manner. Once a transit system has been operational for many years this grid usually forces its way into reality in one form or another by necessity; a system comprised of a bunch of radial lines extending from the center can get really difficult to use when the rider is trying to get somewhere that isn't the center.

As maps go, the radial network is easily portrayed in a circular fashion because it's geographically accurate. It's harder to force a grid network into a circular map.
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Old September 14th, 2013, 03:29 AM   #1365
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Old September 14th, 2013, 03:44 AM   #1366
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Nice. What's that stop between First Hill and Miller Park on the green line? That looks something like what the completed Link network will be. Do you keep up with Seattle Subway at all? It's pretty pie-in-the-sky, but it would be awesome if it happened. It's mostly just about allocating funding and garnering support for now, so it certainly will be awhile until anything's shovel-ready. They're pushing really hard for a line out to Ballard via a new 2nd Ave subway now, that line would be huge for the region.

http://seattlesubway.org/
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Old September 14th, 2013, 06:46 AM   #1367
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Honestly, I just see what major urban cities don't have a metro, and then just design one for them. I had not even known of this project before you told me. The way I found stations was by looking on Google earth, actually.
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Old September 14th, 2013, 10:28 AM   #1368
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A fantasty map of the MBTA that doesn't include a tunnel connecting South Station to North Station? You gotta have through-service!
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A fantasty map of the MBTA that doesn't include a tunnel connecting South Station to North Station? You gotta have through-service!
Haha, I was pretty sure that someone would say that. I thought that it would be useless since a multi-line section would have a very frequent service and a just - one - line connection would make the passengers who use the rest of the lines change train anyway.
Actually, the map is very inaccurate. In fact i was just drawing
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Old September 14th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #1370
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I made the Jakarta's MRT and Monorail masterplan system map
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Jakarta Mass Transit System by adriansyahyassin, on Flickr
More stations + transfer poitns + MRT lines please!

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Haha, I was pretty sure that someone would say that. I thought that it would be useless since a multi-line section would have a very frequent service and a just - one - line connection would make the passengers who use the rest of the lines change train anyway.
Actually, the map is very inaccurate. In fact i was just drawing
Well, London is building a tunnel to connect commuter rail throught the city center and they seem to think it's worth it. Worth it to the tune of planning another one connecting to other terminal stations even!
If nothing else, it should make room at the old platforms for new services.
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Same for Madrid. They built a high-speed tunnel connecting Atocha and Chamartín stations but every city is different. The distance between North and South station is less than 2 kilometers not to mention that they are both terminals. A shuttle service metro-like connection between the two station would be better I think.
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Vanduser Metro, for Vanduser, a city of 3.2 million

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Old September 17th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #1374
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Nice map!
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Old September 18th, 2013, 12:20 AM   #1376
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All the talk of Copenhagen Metro expansion has me dreaming. It's a (nearly) geographically accurate map of a future system. Because I'm lazy/don't really have time it's not really graphically refined, it's more about the vision. (That grey line out to sea is a line towards Malmö).


Btw I'm really glad to see this thread has been so active lately!
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Old September 18th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #1377
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Old September 18th, 2013, 12:16 PM   #1378
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All the talk of Copenhagen Metro expansion has me dreaming. It's a (nearly) geographically accurate map of a future system. Because I'm lazy/don't really have time it's not really graphically refined, it's more about the vision. (That grey line out to sea is a line towards Malmö).


Btw I'm really glad to see this thread has been so active lately!
The most "I can't believe it" Copenhagen Metro map yet!
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Old September 20th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #1379
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Toowoomba has a population of 100,000 or so. The existing bus system consists of five extremely circuitous routes, with services about as frequent as Halley's Comet—if they're running at all. Here's a theoretical system harnessing the grid layout; the two main routes (red and green) could be bus or tram.


Toowoomba fantasy transit map by whistlingnixie, on Flickr
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Old September 21st, 2013, 12:56 PM   #1380
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Toowoomba has a population of 100,000 or so. The existing bus system consists of five extremely circuitous routes, with services about as frequent as Halley's Comet—if they're running at all. Here's a theoretical system harnessing the grid layout; the two main routes (red and green) could be bus or tram.


Toowoomba fantasy map by whistlingnixie, on Flickr
Nice system!

(I just keep appreciating maps because I just can't get to that level)
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