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Old October 29th, 2013, 01:02 AM   #1441
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Don't get me wrong, I look at the whole city to see where there appear to be significant edge cities, and high density areas, to see where lines should travel in the first place
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 03:52 PM   #1442
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Made an attempt at expanding the railway system in Jakarta (sorry for the rough edges, I'll remake the map soon)

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Old November 3rd, 2013, 09:42 AM   #1443
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 05:10 PM   #1444
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Modestly updated version of my previous Helsinki map to include surface rail. The surface rail you see is totally fantasy-based; I'm going for a grid layout (at least more so than Helsinki has now) that more-or-less follows the geographical layout of the city. Many more kilometers of rail would have to be laid to realize this. I also consolidated Munkkisaari and Länsiterminaali into one station (easily doable with a central station box and extending entrances to both sides) to cut down the two-transfer route from Länsiterminaali to the Rautatieasema (a very popular route).
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 05:12 PM   #1445
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Very neat!
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 08:19 PM   #1446
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What program do you use? (since many people whine about Beno)
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 08:41 PM   #1447
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Modestly updated version of my previous Helsinki map to include surface rail.
You haven´t.
Should tram line 1 be extended to Käpylä or to Oulunkylä?
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Old November 4th, 2013, 02:38 AM   #1448
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Should tram line 1 be extended to Käpylä or to Oulunkylä?
Right, only tram lines, I should have said.

The 1 should indeed be extended to Käpylä station, so just imagine the line half an inch longer on the north end.

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I use Omnigraffle. There are some features lacking, but I use it for some of my work responsibilities as well, so its flexibility makes up for the shortcomings. It's also not free.
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Old November 4th, 2013, 06:29 AM   #1449
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Old November 7th, 2013, 10:12 AM   #1450
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A map I made based off a proposal to connect some regional railway lines in the Amsterdam area to the metro network, 'Vignelli style':

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Old November 7th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #1451
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It's interesting that you are making a metro extension to existing railways (Amsterdam-Haarlem, Amsterdam-Utrecht and Amsterdam-Almere). Would that mean that these railways have to be converted to 3rd rail electrification?
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Practical issues like these weren't on my mind when I designed this map, to be honest By the way: the line Almere-Hoofddorp would not be using metro tracks, but the existing railway tracks, possibly with some quadruple tracking on current double track segments to segregrate regional and intercity trains.
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Old November 7th, 2013, 06:26 PM   #1453
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Practical issues like these weren't on my mind when I designed this map, to be honest By the way: the line Almere-Hoofddorp would not be using metro tracks, but the existing railway tracks, possibly with some quadruple tracking on current double track segments to segregrate regional and intercity trains.
Would there be space to quadruple the tracks?
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Old November 7th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #1454
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There's always some space to cram additional tracks into...
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A map I made based off a proposal to connect some regional railway lines in the Amsterdam area to the metro network, 'Vignelli style':
You should be more consistent when marking the stations. If you mark stations on concurrent lines (like Schiphole) with separate white dots you need to do that for all stations. Interchanging terminal stations (like Leiden) should have separate dots, one for and on each line, and stations where lines intersect should not be marked with multiple dots on a single line (like Sloterdijk), it looks messy.

This is a better solution:
http://fotkica.com/imgs3/1_115322065_untitled.PNG
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Old November 8th, 2013, 09:45 AM   #1456
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Well, I was a bit skeptic when I read your post, but when I saw your update to my map, I must say: it does look better indeed. Especially the more complex interchange stations like Duivendrecht and Sloterdijk would benefit.

I wonder what your design solution to my map of the current Amsterdam metro network would be for Centraal Station, which suffers from the same mishap:

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Old November 8th, 2013, 05:42 PM   #1457
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Like this: http://fotkica.com/imgs3/1_92261686_untitled.PNG
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Old November 8th, 2013, 05:49 PM   #1458
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Mmm yes, that might be better indeed. And even more true to the real topological relation of both lines at Centraal Station.

I'll update this map (it's used throughout on Wikipedia) and credit you for the suggestion
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Old November 8th, 2013, 06:08 PM   #1459
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It's interesting that you are making a metro extension to existing railways (Amsterdam-Haarlem, Amsterdam-Utrecht and Amsterdam-Almere). Would that mean that these railways have to be converted to 3rd rail electrification?
I'm of the opinion that service levels are more important than where the current comes from. In Helsinki there's a bit of a push to merge the Metro and commuter rail spheres under the same umbrella, and I generally back that idea. The commuter rail vehicles look different, and they get their current from an OCS. They do, however, have very Metro-like service levels and therefore it would be easy to join the two systems with a common brand as long as it was easy to understand. Color the vehicles the same way, start referring to the commuter rail as the Metro, change the signs, and integrate them in the same map and you've got yourself a cohesive system.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 06:28 PM   #1460
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Mmm yes, that might be better indeed. And even more true to the real topological relation of both lines at Centraal Station.
You should adjust the positions of the station on the blue line, they shouldn't overlap with the gaps that show that line is under construction (see the same map).
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