Niagara Falls Development News

[AndrewJM3D]

I can't help but think the whole Homeland Security BS making it tougher for cross-border travel only hurt NFNY. Canada's international checkpoints have always been as secure as as in the U.S. Before 911 so there was no need for the passport checks. I remember most times when we'd cross over it be on a whim to go purchase something we couldn't find here or just explore for an hour or two. A valid photo ID should be all we need as Canadians and Americans to cross borders. I'm curious where we might find some stats about cross border flow after the new restrictions went in place.

[WIGS]

Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

I can't help but think the whole Homeland Security BS making it tougher for cross-border travel only hurt NFNY. Canada's international checkpoints have always been as secure as as in the U.S. Before 911 so there was no need for the passport checks. I remember most times when we'd cross over it be on a whim to go purchase something we couldn't find here or just explore for an hour or two. A valid photo ID should be all we need as Canadians and Americans to cross borders. I'm curious where we might find some stats about cross border flow after the new restrictions went in place.

Andrew,
I would venture to guess that the Canadian side has suffered more than the American side since most Canadians have a passport while a good chunk of Americans (in this case WNY'ers) do not. Fort Erie Race Track as an example is going to close down (not only due to losing revenue from slots) but also because of decrease of American gamblers.

[AndrewJM3D]

Fort Eerie has probably suffered but I was speaking about Niagara. Many day trippers from Toronto don't have valid passports either so the trip over the river is no longer possible. Did the Galleria, Military Trail Outlet Mall and other cross border shopping destinations also see a decline temporary or permanent??

[WIGS]

Also OLGC is closing down Casino Niagara so tourism in Niagara Falls can't be what it once was.

[drafty]

Also OLGC is closing down Casino Niagara so tourism in Niagara Falls can't be what it once was.

Don't know where you got that info, but it's totally false.

[toodeepuntilnow]

Originally Posted by drafty

Don't know where you got that info, but it's totally false.

Not entirely. Their probably going off the Drummond recommendation that's not being followed.

But Casino Niagara's days are probably numbered in the next five years if nothing changes.

[AndrewJM3D]

Originally Posted by toodeepuntilnow

Not entirely. Their probably going off the Drummond recommendation that's not being followed.

But Casino Niagara's days are probably numbered in the next five years if nothing changes.

The Casino in NFO is not closing, the OLGC is only looking to open a possible location in Toronto which I can tell will meet massive public opposition. The old(original) casino was only meant to be temporary and was supposed to be shut down after the large permanent Fallsview Resort opened. NFO also has the benefit of being part of a region that is growing by about 140,000 a year. Even with a tighter border it's still manages to pull in a lot of Americans as well.

From the owners of both Canadian casinos.

FALLS MANAGEMENT COMPANY has built the largest commercial development in Canada, the Niagara Fallsview Casino Resort, with a total investment value of $1 billion. This is the largest provincial investment in the history of the Niagara Falls region. Falls Management Company is taking a vital role in the development of an economically viable, sustainable and renewable project.

Niagara Fallsview Casino Resort was financed, designed and built by Falls Management Company under agreement with the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation.

The Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation (OLGC) is an operation enterprise of the Government of Ontario, responsible for province-wide lottery games, commercial and charitable casinos, and the operation and management of slot machine facilities at horse racing tracks.

Falls Management Company is a consortium of five firms which was selected by the Ontarion Lottery and Gaming Corporation to operate Casino Niagara; and to finance, design, build and operate Niagara Fallsview Casino Resort.

In its role of development and operation of the two premiere casino projects in Canada, Falls Management Company creates a prestigious, year-round tourist destinations offering a full range of amenities in addition to gaming activities. These facilities help to generate economic development, complement existing tourism infrastructure while aiding expansion of the existing tourist base to 20 million visitors annually and increasing the length of each tourist's stay and amount of spending.

[AndrewJM3D]

Not to mention next year NFO is holding the 16th Annual Canadian Gaming Summit.

[toodeepuntilnow]

I don't have time or concern to argue with an idiot but you realize a quick scan of Google has a wealth of information on how and why Niagara will close sooner than later including owner preferance.

[AndrewJM3D]

Originally Posted by toodeepuntilnow

I don't have time or concern to argue with an idiot but you realize a quick scan of Google has a wealth of information on how and why Niagara will close sooner than later including owner preferance.

Glad we all now know how you do your research (a quick Google scan LOL). You do realize that there are 2 Casinos in Niagara right. One being temporary, and it's been a temporary casino now since the day it opened. A report suggesting they should close the smaller of the two Casino's is not news, it was never meant to stay open this long and was supposed to shut down right after the $1 Billion dollar Casino resort came online over a decade ago.

It's not my responsibility to prove your point, if you want to be taken seriously back up what you have to say with some facts. Asking somebody who disagrees with you to do your work for you is just moronic and lazy.

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by AndrewJM3D

I can't help but think the whole Homeland Security BS making it tougher for cross-border travel only hurt NFNY.

True. However, by far the biggest negative of the the Buffalo "Homeland Security" build-up has been to keep new immigrants from re-populating a long declining region.

Thus in Buffalo' & Nigara Falls, NY we've got a cities on a border, but far from being an international, cosmpolitan, or growing region.
Other upstate metros like Rochester & Albany away from the border are becoming more diverse & closing in on Buffalo's sizewise.

The contrast with Toronto, which once was in same size bracket, is truly staggering.

[drafty]

Casino Niagara is located within the Falls Ave. Complex, which is owned by Canadian Niagara Hotels. Ltd. OLG has, from the very beginning, leased the space occupied by the casino from CNH. In 2010, OLG signed a 15 year extension to the lease, with NO provision for early-exit. I think that is a very big reason why the Ontario government has ignored the Drummond reports recommendation to close "one of the casinos in Niagara Falls", and why neither will likely be closing any time soon.

[AndrewJM3D]

Who knows, that little one could make a comeback with this new hotel complex.

Back to NFNY, they need to stop coming up with all these sad little quick fix schemes and focus on what draws tourists to the area. if they're after cross-border tourists perhaps they should think about building a large landmark mall highly visible from the Canadian side. Lets face it, Canadians love to shop for bargains across the border and most just pass right through NFNY without spending a dime. If the tourists on the CDN side saw something like this they would be drawn across like moths to a flame.

This is a mall in Belgium.

[atypical]

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/comm...icle975904.ece



A bit obnoxious if you ask me...

[fubo]

Originally Posted by atypical

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/comm...icle975904.ece



A bit obnoxious if you ask me...

Would you say that if it was in Buffalo?

[atypical]

Originally Posted by fubo

Would you say that if it was in Buffalo?

If built in the wrong location - yes. They appear obnoxious due to the fact that they are built in an area that is reality low density; compared to where all the other skyscrapers are built in NF.

[ECoastTransplant]

Two middle fingers to the U.S. side which can't get its head out of its arse.

[drafty]

They appear obnoxious due to the fact that they are built in an area that is reality low density; compared to where all the other skyscrapers are built in NF.

Do you not think that the area where the other skyscrapers are located was low density before they were built?
And 2 other hotels, 59 story Rainbow Tower at Casino Niagara and a 30 story, all suites hotel at Planet Hollywood, have already been approved for that area to go along with the Sheraton and Crowne Plaza that are already there.

[atypical]

Originally Posted by drafty

Do you not think that the area where the other skyscrapers are located was low density before they were built?
And 2 other hotels, 59 story Rainbow Tower at Casino Niagara and a 30 story, all suites hotel at Planet Hollywood, have already been approved for that area to go along with the Sheraton and Crowne Plaza that are already there.

Just my opionin...

[Buffalomatt1027]

Originally Posted by ECoastTransplant

Two middle fingers to the U.S. side which can't get its head out of its arse.

as someone that lives in Buffalo / has friends from Boston and NYC come visit. ITs sad to tell them the American side of the fans sucks. Theres an overrated park / Sketch bar scene and i rather go drink in Canada.