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then they blame the drivers when some pedestrian goes to the hospital because he wasn't walking on the footpath
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The thing about walking on footpaths is that most of them in most of our cities are crowded, dirty, and encroached. Any small city you go to and its major footpaths will have hawkers and squatters at very short distances.
Since most cities dont have that, I guess it just becomes a habit to walk on the road for most people because the city does not enforce footpath use. The same for jaywalking. Indians would rather run through traffic than wait for the light to turn green. |
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Hi Kronik..
You also forgot to mention that the footpaths that exist are way too high and way too narrow ! In Mumbai alone, you have varied heights and widths of F/P. Even in a city like Colombo, you have F/Ps that have a uniform height of approx 6" (as in many other Asian countries too). But in India, I guess, the taller you build it, the better it is... to keep away the pedestrians perhaps that's one reason why most people won't even want to walk on them.The situation gets worse on streets where you have rows of buildings. Take Mahim for example - scores of building blocks one after another and technically, they have f/ps. But with almost a foot high FP, a hapless pedestrian has to climb up and down after every other bldg's gateway. If that's not enough, the authorities deem it ok to plant trees on - of course - narrow F/Ps. So even if you want to use the FP, you have to squeeze through . Too many reasons.. I can go on and on. Cheers anyways to future development.. p2p4 Quote:
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And im talknig 'bout new ones. I almost killed meself on the new f/ps in Colaba.Looked like it had been bult by a blind sadist.And the thing was when i asked someone about them they thought they were a great improvement.Fantastic. Seiously though i think it was 'babji' who said that change happens slowly And that India has been without signiicant no.s of motorised transport until fairly recently , so people havent quite got it yet. __________________
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I never understood why sidewalks, or footpaths as you call them are always in such bad condition. I mean how hard is it to pour a slab of concrete? Instead they waste time with flagstones, brick, concrete pavers, etc. If that edge/soldier course is too high then that is how high the sidewalk becomes. If it is too low then the sidewalk is low too. No consistency whatsoever for something so simple. Then, when they are torn apart to fix underground pipes/cables/etc. the trench is filled with dirt/stone/asphalt because those "fancy" stones/bricks/pavers are not readily available so it stays that way for eternity.
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As everything else to do with Civic agencies in Indian cities, bad sidewalks are due to non-standard, thoughtless design (if you can even call it that). It isn't rocket-science, but plain common-sense. Sidewalk design, pedestrain crossings etc., like road and intersection design, are an important element of traffic management.
Our civic bodies are clueless about it, or just care a damn. We spend crores in putting up, tearing down and re-laying faulty roads, sidewalks, traffic signals and what not. This is a well established corruption-generating industry. As long as there is no accountability with the politicos, administrators and babus, this will go on. There is no consideration for the aged, physically challenged and children apart from regular pedestrians. Indian cities are the most pedestrian-unfriendly in the whole world. Our politicians, babus and the rest should be ashamed to call our cities and roads as of any standard, leave alone international standard. I live in Bangalore and can vouch for it that not a single road here is of ANY standard, despite crores of rupees loans availed from WB etc., in the name of road development. The only one road being built by NICE, the BMIC corridor can lay claim to be of int'l standard, but that as everyone knows will not be allowed to progress unimpeded so long as the Gowda brood is in power. Corruption, vengeful politics and lethargic babus rule the roost here. Our planners are way, way behind in all these aspects. |
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We want it like this... Right Guys
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Nice roads.
Yeah why dont people use the side walks????? |
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Nod for new Delhi flyover plan
NEW DELHI: In an effort to decongest the Azadpur-Ring Road intersection, a gateway to the busy Delhi-Chandigarh national highway, the Delhi Government has cleared the decks for construction of a Rs.147-crore three-level modern grade separator aimed at making this major crossing signal- free in the next two years.
The project was given the green signal by the Expenditure Finance Committee headed by Delhi Finance Minister A.K. Walia, fulfilling a long-pending demand of local residents as well as various traders associations who had been pressing for such an infrastructure project to get rid of the consistent traffic jams in the area. Industry Minister Mangat Ram Singhal played a major role in getting the project approved. The Public Works Department would execute the infrastructure project and work is likely to start by this year-end. The project has been designed in such a manner that it would pass through the Metro railway route on the Delhi University-Jehangirpuri section. Dr. Walia informed that the new three-level modern state-of-the-art grade separator would be constructed at the Azadpur intersection to make it signal-free. The PWD would complete this project within 30 months at an estimated cost of Rs. 147.72 crores. It would have the grade separator joining Ring Road and Road No.51, an underpass on G.T. Karnal Road, Mall Road and Mall Road Extension, rotary at ground level for right turns, pedestrian subway for movement of bus commuters, bicycle track, railing and footpath. The project would also have proper rainwater harvesting infrastructure apart from beautiful landscaping. Dr. Walia said the Azadpur intersection was one of the busiest junctions in the Capital catering to heavy traffic from various directions including Mukarba Chowk-NH-1, Ring Road from Shalimar Bagh and Pitampura on Mall Road from Model Town. The traffic is further multiplied due to the presence of the wholesale fruit and vegetable market at Azadpur as thousands of vehicles unload and load for various destinations carrying vegetables and fruits everyday. The Ring Road also caters to a very large volume of traffic from Pitampura, Rohini and connects the North-West District passing from this junction. It also caters to a large residential area adjoining Mall Road Extension, Mall Road and other urban colonies. It also connects newly constructed Road No.51, which joins the junction to Outer Ring Road at Mukundpur crossing. After the construction of the new grade separator, Road No. 51 would become part of Ring Road. The grade separator will also facilitate better road communication for decongestion of Delhi roads in view of the upcoming Commonwealth Games-2010. |
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PWD plans tunnel road from Games Village to CP
New Delhi, November 24: The Public Works Department’s plan to connect National Highway-24 and Lodhi Road through a tunnel road faces scrutiny from the Archeological Survey of India (ASI), but the department is already considering a second tunnel road project for the Commonwealth Games.
The East-West Corridor project, which will connect the Games Village to Connaught Place, is being examined by the Delhi Development Authority’s (DDA) technical committee. The Urban Development Department has managed to keep the project under wraps till now. The proposed tunnel road will start from near the Games Village off NH-24 and will wend its way from near Mathura Road, Pragati Maidan and Bhagwan Dass Road and end up near Mandi House. The road will connect the Games Village with Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium and Talkatora Stadium and help decongest Bhairon Road, Vikas Marg and Indraprastha Marg. The area around Bhairon Road and ITO faces a traffic volume close to 1.8 lakh vehicles a day. The PWD plans to start work on the project next September and complete it by December 2009. The ASi, meanwhile, continues to scrutinise the tunnel road project connecting NH -4 with Lodhi Road. Incidentally, the Commonwealth Games Committee during a visit to Delhi earlier this week, expressed satisfaction with both proposed tunnel projects as they will improve connectivity with the Games Village. “The Games Committee was very impressed with the tunnel road projects but expressed concern over their completion. The plan to connect NH-24 to Lodhi Road through a tunnel road is stuck because of objections raised by ASI on rather flimsy grounds. The PWD has already submitted that the alignment skirts the heritage sites around Humayun’s Tomb but ASI has now said the tunnel road will cause vibrations in the area. The PWD is already in touch with DMRC to get technical expertise on tunnel boring with minimal vibrations,” a senior government official said. The PWD says the 2.24-km NH 24-Lodhi Road corridor, which will be the shortest direct route between the Games Village and the National Stadium, will be a four-lane road. The tunnel road will also help ease traffic flow from east to south and southwest Delhi, reducing travel time from NH-24 to Lodhi Road from 25 minutes to eight minutes. The PWD expects to call for a tender on this project next March and hopes to start work by June 2007, completing it by December 2009. But this can be done only if the ASI clears the project in time. MULTI-CRORE PROJECTS * NH 24-Lodhi Road: 4-lane tunnel road - around Rs 560 crore * East-West Corridor from Games Village to Bhagwan Dass Road - around Rs 850 crore |
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Parallel Ring Road to open next month
Tunnel proposed from Old Railway Bridge to link it with Outer Ring Road at ISBT
NEW DELHI: Those commuting between East Delhi and other parts of the Capital are in for a bonanza in the shape of better roads and infrastructure. A parallel Ring Road along the Yamuna banks from ITO Chungi to Old Railway Bridge will be thrown open to traffic next month. Giving this information here, Finance and PWD Minister A.K.Walia said that in view of the urgent requirement to upgrade infrastructure ahead of the 2010 Commonwealth Games, a large number of projects relating to roads and infrastructure were being speeded up. An elevated road track from Raj Ghat to Shantivan over Ring Road is also in the final stages of planning. It will relieve traffic congestion on this stretch and make the ground level road free for VIP movement without hampering everyday road users. This project will soon be sent to the Delhi Urban Arts Commission for approval. Dr. Walia disclosed that in view of the massive congestion and flow of traffic on Vikas Marg, it was felt that a parallel channel should be made available to commuters. He said a 3-km Disused Canal Road from Karkari Mor to Marginal Bandh Road on the banks of the Yamuna would become operational in March 2007. The new road would take off around 40 per cent burden of vehicular traffic on Vikas Marg and hence decongest it substantially. The Minister added that a new technology was being used for construction of this road which would make it motorable within two hours of laying. The road is being constructed over a drain and a two-metre wide opening in-between is being provided for cleaning of drain. The Disused Canal Road would have four-lanes, two service lane and two footpaths and it would benefit residents of two densely populated areas. In order to provide relief to the choking Vikas Marg it was decided that the existing Disused Canal would be converted into a traffic corridor and developed as a feeder to a new bridge over the Yamuna near Geeta Colony. Dr. Walia further said that the eight-lane Marginal Bundh Road between ITO Chungi to Old Rail Bridge would be opened next month. This would act as a parallel Ring Road for East Delhi and it is proposed that in order to extend the benefit of this Ring Road and connect it with Outer Ring Road a tunnel is proposed from the Old Railway Bridge to link it with Outer Ring Road at ISBT Kashmere Gate. After completion of this track, people will no longer be required to travel to ITO or Nizammudin Bridge and can take this tunnel and reach the East Delhi Ring Road and then take the road that will stretch to Noida and Ghaziabad. The Minister added that all efforts would be made to complete construction of the Geeta Colony Bridge by December 2007. The Geeta Colony Bridge starts from Shantivana and joins Yamuna Pushta near Taj Enclave. Originally the bridge was scheduled to open in February 2008. He further disclosed that all PWD works were running ahead of schedule. |
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Most projects have very little or no provisions --AIIMS Flyover, Dhaula Flyover (Nightmare!!). They build subways which serve no purpose and are closed after 9.00 PM. What happens of people who want to cross a busy intersection at 9.30 PM? On roads which do have zebra crossings, no one respects the traffic lights. If pedestrians scuttle across when the red light's on, then the traffic doesn't stop when the pedestrian light's green. A classic example - Satya Niketan just after Dhaula Kuan flyover. Why couldn't a foot overbridge be built the same time the flyover was being constructed. Official apathy! Maybe they haven't heard of Pedestrian Tax yet.
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Thanks Superdesi2100 for posting that.
In opinion i think they need much more bigger plan for ITO than just building a flyover and an underpass. because these 2 things are now coming at every other intersection where traffic load is little bit on higher side. For ITO i think they need something 'BIG', to cope up with traffic and rush. Goverment, please dont think of year 2010(Commonwealth games) for ITO, think ahead of it. |
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Naraina flyover gets approval
NEW DELHI: In another step aimed at decongesting Ring Road and ensuring smooth flow of traffic, the Delhi Cabinet on Monday gave the green signal for construction of a flyover at Nariana T-junction with special features including escalator-powered foot over bridge.
The approval was given at a meeting held under the leadership of Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit here. Giving this information, Finance and PWD Minister A.K. Walia informed that a new flyover at Naraina T-Junction on Ring Road with an estimated cost of Rs.120 crores would be commissioned by 2008 well before commencement of the 2010 Commonwealth Games. This would go a long way in making the entire stretch along Ring Road from Shalimar Bagh to Mool Chand flyover signal free. "The new flyover would facilitate smooth flow for vehicular traffic through Naraina village, which will have a bearing on saving fuel and avoid pollution," he added. Dr. Walia further informed that special features of Naraina flyover includes a five-metre wide pedestrian sub-way between Ring Road and Loha Mandi, an 7.5 metre underpass towards Mayapuri side, foot over bridge with escalators, bus bays, overhead signages, water harvesting, provision of noise and dust barriers, provision of horticulture and landscaping for proper beautification and adequate illumination by providing high mast lighting system. In another development, the Delhi Government is on the verge of finalising two flyovers on Bahadhur Shah Zafar Marg and ITO crossing to decongest the entry and exit of traffic from this congested corridor towards East Delhi and South Delhi. Dr. Walia informed that a formal presentation on the two projects would be made on November 29 along with that for construction of a tunnel linking East Delhi Ring Road from Old Railway Bridge to ISBT at Kashmere Gate. Dr. Walia said two clover leafs are being constructed at the Vikas Minar flyover to smoothen the flow of traffic. |
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/47894468.cmsThe development of infrastructure across states is as uneven as it can get. While the pecking order of states shows up Delhi, Goa and Kerala as stars in this aspect, Bihar, Rajasthan, MP and the North-East have a lot of catching up to do. Any comparison across states in India throws up a wide diversity. Infrastructure is no exception. The ET-CMIE Index Of Infrastructure Development across states shows that the availability of basic infrastructure facilities is markedly uneven in India. At one extreme is Delhi. It?s a state with the most developed infrastructure. At the other end, North-Eastern states score quite poorly on virtually every parameter. The infrastructure index is based on 13 individual indicators. They capture different facets of infrastructure development, covering areas like power, telecom, transport, irrigation, financials and education infrastructures. Thus, the index is a broad measure of the overall infrastructure development in the states. For Delhi, the index stands at 800. This means that ? on an average basis ? the availability of basic infrastructure in Delhi is nearly eight times higher than that in the country as a whole. Goa, another small state, follows the capital in terms of availability of infrastructure. The gap between Delhi and Goa, however, is quite huge. Leaving out these two small states, Kerala has the most-advanced infrastructure among the major states. Delhi has a far superior infrastructure than other states on most of the indicators. Its overall index, however, is high mainly due to the developed state of its transport and communication infrastructure. Kerala also scores high in both these areas. For instance, for every 100 square km of geographical area, Delhi and Kerala have 1,696 km and 121 km of surfaced roads respectively. The all-India figure is 44 km. Similarly, Delhi and Kerala?s penetration of direct telephone exchange lines was 13.7% and 5.4% of population respectively in ?99-00. The national penetration was 2.7%. Punjab is another state with a high penetration of telephone lines (5.4%). In terms of the overall infrastructure index, Punjab is fourth among all states and second only to Kerala among the major states. Its position has been buoyed by the best irrigation facility among all states. Nearly 95% of the gross cropped area in Punjab is irrigated compared with 39% for the country as a whole. Kerala and Maharashtra, which are in the top league on many of the other indicators, fare quite poorly in terms of irrigation development. Himachal Pradesh comes as a surprise in this exercise. The overall index-based rank for the state is not too impressive at 11. But this is mainly due to the poor transport infrastructure. On most other indicators, except irrigation, the state scores far better than the national average. Power infrastructure ? captured here by the proportion of electrified villages and domestic electricity consumers ? is superior in Himachal Pradesh than in most other states. Same is the case with the availability of bank offices and primary schools. The southern belt, which has been challenging the traditional supremacy of states in the West coast on several parameters now, scores high on the infrastructure front, too. All the four major southern states are among the top 10 on the infrastructure index. While Kerala has narrowly beaten Punjab to the third place in overall rankings, Tamil Nadu beats Maharashtra to occupy the fifth position. Similarly, Karnataka?s overall infrastructure is more developed than that of Gujarat. Apart from the southern and western states, the infrastructure index value is above 100 for Uttar Pradesh from the Hindi belt and West Bengal from the East. Thus, the overall availability of basic infrastructure in these states is better than the national average. West Bengal scores better than the national average mainly due to its performance on transport indicators, even as it lags behind in the areas of power and irrigation. The state boasts of the next highest proportion of rail routes to geographical area after Delhi. In the case of UP, a significant contributor to its high index value is irrigation. Nearly 65% of its cropped area is irrigated. This is next only to the figures for Punjab and Haryana among the major states. Except for UP, all the other members of the so-called BIMARU belt have index values below 100. Madhya Pradesh, in particular, has the distinction of having the least developed infrastructure among the major states. Except for power and primary schools, it scores below the national average on every other parameter. The state has only 21 km of surfaced roads for every 100 sq km of area and only 28% of the its villages are connected by road. Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan have, however, a larger proportion of electrified villages ? 96% and 94% respectively ? than UP (79%). The paucity of infrastructure in the North-Eastern states is reflected in their infrastructure indices. Arunachal Pradesh is at the bottom with its basic infrastructure availability at less than two-thirds of the all-India average. The North-Eastern states are virtually non-existent on the rail map of the country. The roads and telecom infrastructure is also quite poor in these states. Just about 40-45% of the villages have road connectivity in these states, compared with the all-India figure of 57%. States in the North-East score fairly high, however, in terms of the availability of primary schools. For every lakh of population, there are 209 schools in Meghalaya, 141 in Mizoram and 122 in Arunachal Pradesh. It?s only on this parameter that these states beat the other large states. We also computed the coefficient of variation, which is a measure of the extent of disparity across states, for all the 13 indicators. The coefficient shows that the largest disparity is with respect to cellular subscribers and unsurfaced roads. The electrification of villages and the availability of bank offices is relatively the most evenly spread. The weighted infrastructure index across the major states had a coefficient of variation of 36% in ?00, up from 29% in ?95. This indicates the widening of disparity among the states when it comes to the development of infrastructure. |
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By 2010, Capital roads to don uniform streetlights
http://cities.expressindia.com/fulls...?newsid=211501
New Delhi, November 30: Capital roads will have new streetlights, all uniform, before the Commonwealth Games 2010. This move came in wake of Delhi Government decision to have uniform street furniture across Delhi and streetlight masterplan. The Public Works Deparment (PWD) which has its jurisdiction over 240 Kms in the city will spend over Rs 121 crore to install new street lights, which will be of 50 lux level. ?Tenders will shortly be floated,?? said Dr AK Walia, PWD and Finance Minister. Transco officials had earlier said that new street lights will entail integrated architectural street lighting along with energy-saving options. An expert committee was constituted for formulating the plan and it studied samples of various roads in Delhi, firmed up its recommendations and prepared the standard for world-class lighting for major roads of Delhi. For lighting purpose, roads have been classified into three categories ? A1, A2 and A3 ? and luminance criteria based on peak and off-peak traffic conditions have been prepared. In the First phase, the PWD, apart from including the majority of city roads under its jurisdiction, will also include NH 1, 2 and 8 for uniform street lights, Walia said. The lights will be fixed in the central verge and provide for dual bulbs to light up both sides of the road. The other phases ? taking up parts of the roads ? will be executed by the transport department, which is constructing 83 Kms of High Capacity Bus system, while DMRC will provide streetlights for remaining 89 kilometers. The experts has earlier said that that there was a low level of lighting on all roads while the energy consumption was high. There was no proper monitoring of streetlights and the equipment used did not meet international specifications and there was no standardisation. |
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Naraina traffic woes to end
1.6-Km Flyover With Bus Bays & Escalators To Be Ready In 2 Yrs
The flyover is being constructed at a cost of Rs 119.76 crore,?? said Ravi Mathur, project manager.
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