Chennai discussions II

[Raji7373]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

[[B]QUOTE=Raji7373;44116632]Finally we are getting machines....death of poor scavengers can be avoided

I request SSCians help in this task

yes ofcourse, it is my pleasure to help or work for the betterment of my city. Please tell me in what way I can be of help, if possible i will definetly do it.

[kannan infratech]

Leo R,

The existing sewers in the city will remain same. Changing the design of the same will not be possible.

So we have to find a suitable machine with wire tether to clean the pipe in between two chambers.

Similar to the PIG which you mentioned, Metrowater & TWAD use aball with extension cord.

I can arrange a meeting with the concerned engineers if anybody wants to help in designing & fabrication.

[vs007]

Kannan,

What does BBay,Delhi,Bangalore do in cleaning up the sewers?
In fact this should be an intl problem and Paris, London would have found a solution.

[kannan infratech]

I was told that only Mumbai has a remote controlled mechanism with a camera and cleaning unit which can be monitored above ground without getting into the sewers.

It was a surprise when I was told that the old sewers (build during the british regime) in the city along Mount Road and other old arterial roads are 10 metres in dia and people can walk through. Till date, there are no problems along these lines.

Due to heavy earth work involved and the huge construction cost, after independence, our city rulers have gone for smaller dia pipes without a clear plan for future needs. There are lots of bends in the secondary networks due to the unplanned expansion and conversion of single unit houses into multi units flats.

The stoneware pipes which is generally used are not very smooth inside and so there are accumulation of silt inside the pipes. Electrostatic cuurent generated also helps the silt to stick to the inner surface of the pipes.

There are a few operational problems. During monsoon / rains, rain water gets intot he sewers due to lack of storm water drains. The CMWSSB engineers are sometimes forced to divert the rain water through the sewers due to political pressure and administrative pressure. This plays havoc with the Treatment plants as well as the pipe joints. As most of the waterways which were used as drain canals earlier are now no more existing or in such a bad condition.

This creates a Chicken & Egg story situation. Waterways may the first point where the authorities should start and then to other areas.

[Raji7373]

Deccan Chornicle


A popular travel guide Lonely Planet has described Chennai in a rather `disparaging manner,' upsetting several Chennaiites who feel the city's description is misleading to tourists `CHENNAI IS MORE - PEACEFUL THAN MANY OTHER n METROS'
Chennaiites today are an angry lot and they have a good reason to be.
Recently a reader of Deccan Chronicle pointed out the website of originally one of the most popular travel guides, Lonely Planet which described Chennai in what he and many other Chennaiites believe is disparaging. The introduction to the city reads like this: "Chennai has neither the cosmopolitan, prosperous air of Mumbai (Bombay), the optimistic buzz of Bengaluru (Bangalore) or the historical drama of Delhi. It's muggy, polluted, hot as hell and difficult to get around. Traditional tourist attractions are few. Even the movie stars are, as one Chennaiker (sic) put it, `not that hot'."
In fact, even foreigners living in Chennai feel that the summary of the city as reported on the site does not paint a true picture. Marie Paule Serre, the director of Alliance Francaise of Madras, who has been living in Chennai for about three years now says that Chennai is one of the best cities she has ever been in. "I often travel to other metros in India and I have understood that Chennai is more peaceful than them." According to politician S. Ve Shekhar, one must take these suggestions positively and try to prove them otherwise.
"Exaggerating the pollution and lack of historical places to visit is not acceptable. But our city does have room for improvement," he says.

first we need to stop the wrong portrayal of Chennai in different website.
As said in the article above (link please) there are many threads with give a very biased information about Chennai.

Is there any way / anyone from SSCian community could do to stop this. Can any action be taken against this kind of website….

Chennai has been a long term target to websites and blogs of this kind, which is the main reason of Chennai’s tarnished image. We cannot keep our mouth shut by reading this..

Lonely Planet :

Also lots of Blogs ..when you search in google.

[prasanna]

Source

CHENNAI: Any guesses how many babies born in Chennai in the course of the next one year will have classical Tamil names like Nedunchezhiyan,
Thenmozhi, Ponnaiyan and Thamizhachi? Well, the Chennai Corporation expects that at least 5,000 to 7,000 newborns will be named so by parents annually.

Based on this premise, it has decided to invite bids from gold jewellers to manufacture 6,500 gold rings of one gram each, which would be presented to each newborn baby with a classical Tamil name as per Chennai mayor M Subramanian’s policy announcement earlier this year. The move is aimed at promoting classical Tamil names. In Tamil Nadu, during the anti-Hindi movement spearheaded by the DMK, many activists had changed their Sanskrit names into pure Tamil ones. For instance, the state higher education minister who now sports a classical Tamil name ‘Ponmudy’ was originally christened Deivasigamani by his parents. But in recent years this trend has been on the decline. The corporation hopes to reverse it by offering this incentive.

“Approximately 14,000 babies are delivered in 10 maternity hospitals (run by the corporation) every year and 5,000 to 7,000 babies are being named in classical Tamil,” the corporation has said in its tender document.

Given prevailing prices, a gram of gold is valued at Rs 1,600; add a few hundreds for making the ornament, and you get a cost of roughly Rs 2,000 per ring. The civic agency is now seeking to zero in on jewellers who have been in the business of making gold ornaments for at least five years with an annual turnover of Rs 2 crore over the past couple of years to award the tender.

[prasanna]

Source

An article to ponder upon

There is a famous saying: “East is East and West is West – the twain shall never meet.” Given the way in which plans and projects keep moving in opposite directions this dictum seems to apply in full measure to the Chennai Metropolis. .....

[Mad 4 Madras]

Originally Posted by Raji7373

Deccan Chornicle


A popular travel guide Lonely Planet has described Chennai in a rather `disparaging manner,' upsetting several Chennaiites who feel the city's description is misleading to tourists `CHENNAI IS MORE - PEACEFUL THAN MANY OTHER n METROS'
Chennaiites today are an angry lot and they have a good reason to be.
Recently a reader of Deccan Chronicle pointed out the website of originally one of the most popular travel guides, Lonely Planet which described Chennai in what he and many other Chennaiites believe is disparaging. The introduction to the city reads like this: "Chennai has neither the cosmopolitan, prosperous air of Mumbai (Bombay), the optimistic buzz of Bengaluru (Bangalore) or the historical drama of Delhi. It's muggy, polluted, hot as hell and difficult to get around. Traditional tourist attractions are few. Even the movie stars are, as one Chennaiker (sic) put it, `not that hot'."
In fact, even foreigners living in Chennai feel that the summary of the city as reported on the site does not paint a true picture. Marie Paule Serre, the director of Alliance Francaise of Madras, who has been living in Chennai for about three years now says that Chennai is one of the best cities she has ever been in. "I often travel to other metros in India and I have understood that Chennai is more peaceful than them." According to politician S. Ve Shekhar, one must take these suggestions positively and try to prove them otherwise.
"Exaggerating the pollution and lack of historical places to visit is not acceptable. But our city does have room for improvement," he says.

first we need to stop the wrong portrayal of Chennai in different website.
As said in the article above (link please) there are many threads with give a very biased information about Chennai.

Is there any way / anyone from SSCian community could do to stop this. Can any action be taken against this kind of website….

Chennai has been a long term target to websites and blogs of this kind, which is the main reason of Chennai’s tarnished image. We cannot keep our mouth shut by reading this..

Lonely Planet :

Also lots of Blogs ..when you search in google.

Try to complain in M.K. Stalin's website and see if something happens.

[satishanu]

Auto experts and Indian race-ace Narain Karthikeyan head down to Madras Motor Sports racetrack in Irungattukottai, Chennai, with 11 of India’s mid-engined supercars, scorching fast coupés, and even some luxury cars for fun-in-the-sun testing.

The line-up comprised Honda’s new 112bhp City; Skoda’s sharp Laura 1.8 TSi; the astounding Accord V6; the gentle giant Mitsubishi Outlander; the dynamic BMW 530d; Audi’s super-quick (and supercharged) A6; BMW’s classy 650i coupe; a beastly twin turbo Bimmer X6; Merc’s intelligent SL 63 AMG; the sensational Audi R8; and, the cherry on top, a razor-sharp Lamborghini Murcielago LP 640.

The objective here is not to directly compare the lap times of these cars that come from varying segments, but rather test their limits on track.

It’s also important to remember there is a great deal of variation in conditions between these cars’ performance on track and performance on the road. A racelogic V-box tabulated the numbers generated by this test. The device collects data throughout the lap and allows you to ‘play back’ a real-time lap with the line taken by the car, speed, four axis g-force, and, of course, lap times. We can later introduce as many splits as we need and compare laps directly as well, making it an analysis and telemetry tool unlike anything else.

Narain was in top form during our two-day track test, and sank his teeth right into the cars, throwing each of them around the circuit in his characteristic style, and without deviating from the ideal line by even a foot. Here are the excerpts of the test.
HONDA CITY

With its strong top-end performance, quick gearbox and good overall balance, the new City posts a very impressive lap time. Where it loses out is in the tyre department — due to the tyres’ flex — and the electric steering gives just about acceptable amounts of feedback when the car is sliding around. While the brakes work pretty well, with the progressive ABS system cutting in nice and late, the seating position is high and distinctly unsporty. We feel that a pair of aftermarket tyres would surely make a great difference here.

Rating 6/10

Price Rs 9.76 lakh

Engine1497cc,4 cyls in-line

Tyres 175/65 R15

0-100kph 10.28sec

Top speed (track) 140.1kph

HONDA ACCORD V6

With its suspension set up to pamper chauffeur-driven individuals, the Accord feels a bit too soft for the track. The car dives a fair bit under hard braking, and the relaxed gearbox gives you the feeling that you’re not completely exploiting the potential of the engine. But what an engine this is! The Honda Accord recorded a maximum speed of 152kph on the track. Its 2minutes and 13.8 seconds time is also seriously quick, especially when considering the number of corners on this track. Narain just loved the way the motor pulled very strongly all the way to the redline.

Rating 5/10

Price Rs. 29.12 lakh

Engine 3471cc, 6 cyls in-V

Tyres 225/50 R17

0-100kph 8.64sec

Top speed (track) 152.4kph

SKODA LAURA 1.8 TSI

If you look at price to overall performance and driving fun, the Laura TSI has everything licked. The lap time is seriously impressive too. It’s only a second or so behind the BMW 530d, and cornering speeds are also very high. Apart from an ABS system that cuts in too early and a slightly notchy gearbox, this is a car that does everything really well. The handling is crisp, body roll is well-contained, the motor pulls very strongly from anywhere in the powerband and the steering has great feel.

“What the car is doing comes through the steering rather than just through the seat of your pants,” is what Narain says. It lived up to the high expectations we had — the times it recorded are up there with cars twice its price.

Rating 8/10

Price Rs. 14.97 lakh

Engine1798cc 4 cyls in-line

Tyres 195/65 R16

0-100kph 8.17sec

Top speed (track) 149.5kph

BMW 530d

We almost forgot there was a lap time to be recorded in this car. A lot of the corners were taken sideways and the heavy torque from the motor made it really easy to break traction at the rear.

A real driver’s car, despite being a diesel, Narain was immediately impressed by the really strong straight six, the direct steering and the “amazing handling”.

Rating 8/10

Price Rs. 51.05 lakh

Engine 2993cc, 6 cyls in-line

Tyres 225/50 R17

0-100kph 7.08sec

Top speed (track) 158kph

AUDI A6 3.0

The Audi’s instant throttle responses and massive lunges of power are thrilling. The strong midrange helped massively and so did the typically well-sorted Audi gearbox.

The Quattro four-wheel-drive system helped it put its power down nicely, as can be seen from its very strong 109kph exit speed at C6 and its lap time of 2m08sec is very good, its pace more down to brute force and traction.

Rating 7/10

Price Rs 44.66 lakh

Engine 2995cc, 6 cyls in-V

Tyres 255/50 R17

0-100kph 6.59sec

Top speed (track) 157.3kph

BMW 650i

The 650i is actually a big GT car. Its cabin is large and luxurious, the car comes loaded with features and this makes for a great cruiser. The naturally aspirated 5.0-litre V8 has a good midrange, the chassis has a nice balance and bite to it and the amazing brakes allow you to really stand on them.

It’s a BMW, so there’s tonnes of oversteer and excitement as well. Like most BMWs though, it slowed down a tad by a bit of slack in the gearbox.

Rating 8/10

Price Rs. 96.40 lakh

Tyres F& R 245/40R19;

275/35R19

0-100kph 7.25sec

Top speed (track) 170.9kph

MERCEDES-BENZ SL63 AMG

AMG, Merc’s official chop shop, has used its most potent 6208cc V8 to make a monster of the otherwise civilised SL. Genuine supercar performance as well as GT comfort are the result.

The brakes are good, the steering feel is super and the pulling power and grunt from the engine is huge.

It even managed to be slightly quicker than the R8 at some places, such as the exit from C1 and the entry to C8, a huge achievement for a front-engined car. And, it ducked under the two-minute barrier as well!

Keep in mind, you also need a PhD in ‘slideonomics’ to be able to catch it on the limit.

Rating 8/10

Price Rs 1.67 crore

Engine 6208cc, 8 cyls in-V

Tyres 255/35 R19; 285/30

R19

0-100kph 5.95sec

Top speed (track) 182.7kph

LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO LP 640

By the grace of God and Lamborghini’s designing excellence, this hair-raising Lambos pumps put a blistering 640bhp!

It sounds like a deranged animal as it charges towards the horizon. Even on this short stretch, we recorded a knee-trembling 197kph.

Grip in long corners is sensational too. We got a 107kph at the exit onto the straight that rear 335 tyre helping for sure. It carries massive momentum into corners and that, along with the massive weight of the huge motor being tossed around at the rear, requires you to be alert when pushing the car’s limits.

What’s more? This car was by far the quickest we tested at the track.

Rating 9/10

Price Rs 3 crore

Engine 6496cc, 12 cyls in-V

Tyres F&R 245/35Zr18;

335/30Zr18

0-100kph 5.05sec

Top speed (track) 197kph

Source: http://beta.thehindu.com/life-and-st...?homepage=true

[ranga]

Originally Posted by Mad 4 Madras

Try to complain in M.K. Stalin's website and see if something happens.

He will ask his father C.M to take up the issue with the P.M.P.M will say he is helpless.This is what will happen.

[Anniyan]

Originally Posted by ranga

He will ask his father C.M to take up the issue with the P.M.P.M will say he is helpless.This is what will happen.

You missed a sentence (i ve put it in red):

He will ask his father C.M to take up the issue with the P.M., CM will send a telegram to PM, P.M will say he is helpless. This is what will happen

[Leo_r]

Originally Posted by Raji7373

Deccan Chornicle

Chennai has been a long term target to websites and blogs of this kind,

My God! How on earth you searched and found a world famous website lonely planet?They are turncoats..If they could earn a million rupees by praising Chennai,they will do that in no time.

But we have plenty among us doing the same. Subramani swamy,Cho,Ram etc and do not forget so many in this forum (Chennaites) who love throwing mud on their own shirts. They must be lovers of Surf advt. "Karai Nallathu"

[Raji7373]

This the reply I got from one Mr. Vivek when I wrote a mail saying what ever described in Lonely planet is untrue.....

Vivek Wagle to me : Vivek.Wagle@lonelyplanet.com.au
show details 08:21 (3 hours ago)

Hi

My name’s Vivek. I’m in charge of editorial for the Lonely Planet website.

Thank you for writing in about the description of Chennai on the site. We try hard to provide objective commentary, and it is unfortunate Chennai suffers from some negative stereotypes when compared to many other cities in India.

We do try to balance this with the following:

“But the locals are a little friendlier than average here, the streets a little wider and, in spite of its booming IT, business-outsourcing and auto industries, the pace much slower than in most Indian cities half its size. Chennai is so modest you wouldn’t even know it’s an economic powerhouse, much less a queen of showbiz: India’s fourth-largest city is also its most humble.

In all of our reporting, we try to present information that helps get people to the heart of a destination. We would welcome the opinion of a bona fide resident of Chennai. And if you feel we have overlooked anything, or if any statements are incorrect, please feel free to email me with your take on the city. We would be happy to consider publishing your perspective on Chennai.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to us. I hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

vivek

Vivek Wagle | Head of Editorial
Lonely Planet Digital

[Raji7373]

Economic Times

CHENNAI: Chennai-based Shivsu Canadian clear international, a water technology solutions provider and manufacturer of mineral water packaging
equipments, has become the first Indian company to install Rs 50 crore worth desalination water plants for Oman and Egypt Governments.

The work included design, manufacture, supply, construction and commissioning of the plants on a turnkey basis. The company is expecting more orders from the region. Two years ago, Shivsu had installed the world’s largest compact desalination plant costing Rs 250 crore in Saudi Arabia.

The Rs 30 crore plant in Egypt that converts sea water into drinking water, has an installed capacity of 20 million litre per day. It will benefit 10 lakh population.

In a release, the company said the Rs 20 crore Oman plant is for the country’s army and can supply three million litres of water per day. The two projects were completed on time and budget, it said.

Company director, Shivkumar Eashwaran said it won the order from the two Governments amidst competition from global players. Shivsu’s technology and shortest delivery time were the two important factors that tilted the scale in its favour.

TN Government can encourage these kind of Indigenous entrepreneurs by giving desalination projects rather than encouraging some foreign company,
foreigners trusted this Indian and gave the project, so why not our own TN Govt!

[Mad 4 Madras]

Originally Posted by Raji7373

This the reply I got from one Mr. Vivek when I wrote a mail saying what ever described in Lonely planet is untrue.....

Vivek Wagle to me : Vivek.Wagle@lonelyplanet.com.au
show details 08:21 (3 hours ago)

Hi

My name’s Vivek. I’m in charge of editorial for the Lonely Planet website.

Thank you for writing in about the description of Chennai on the site. We try hard to provide objective commentary, and it is unfortunate Chennai suffers from some negative stereotypes when compared to many other cities in India.

We do try to balance this with the following:

“But the locals are a little friendlier than average here, the streets a little wider and, in spite of its booming IT, business-outsourcing and auto industries, the pace much slower than in most Indian cities half its size. Chennai is so modest you wouldn’t even know it’s an economic powerhouse, much less a queen of showbiz: India’s fourth-largest city is also its most humble.

In all of our reporting, we try to present information that helps get people to the heart of a destination. We would welcome the opinion of a bona fide resident of Chennai. And if you feel we have overlooked anything, or if any statements are incorrect, please feel free to email me with your take on the city. We would be happy to consider publishing your perspective on Chennai.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to write to us. I hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

vivek

Vivek Wagle | Head of Editorial
Lonely Planet Digital

You have went a step ahead. Thanks. Reply him back that, starting negatively and later balancing it with positives won't result in good impact.
First impression is the best impression. Even if we have Coovam, we cannot portray it when you want to encourage tourism.

[Anniyan]

Originally Posted by Mad 4 Madras

First impression is the best impression. Even if we have Coovam, we cannot portray it when you want to encourage tourism.

You may need to give this advice to the idiot who prepared this report, see the second sentence. Is it really necessary in this report?

http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/t...ated_aug08.pdf
http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/tenders.html

[Mad 4 Madras]

Hahaha...Thirundada jenmangal irundenna labam.....

[Raji7373]

Originally Posted by Anniyan

You may need to give this advice to the idiot who prepared this report, see the second sentence. Is it really necessary in this report?

http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/t...ated_aug08.pdf
http://www.chennaimetrorail.gov.in/tenders.html

I don't know why every body has to mention about Chennai's climate. It is not man made. It is by nature we have bestowed with this kind of climate. (No regrets). Is Chennai the only hot place in the world??. Indeed Singapore and Chennai has the same kind of hot and humid climate. Does Singapore lose it charm, fail to attract talent and investment?. People all over India want to fly there for work and sight seeing. None crticised Singapore for its climate. (I thought climate is Singapore must be good till I landed) Same way Dubai has horrible weather condition, still thrives. All those complain about Chennai climate are happy to settle in these places.
Government has to promote Brand Chennai with all its merits....
One of the formulas they can adopt is to hire visible space for advertisment in leading airports of India...(Is it possible,must be - when airtel, vodafone etc can do why can't a city / state be advertised)

[Mad 4 Madras]

Not at all a bad idea. "Pulli Raja vuku AIDS varuma?", "Epdi irunda nan ipdi agiten!" was indeed successful. We can follow some innovative teasing ways like these too within the TN state...

[satishanu]

Come 2011, and a new-look MA Chidambaram Stadium will host four World Cup matches. The World Cup local organising committee met in Mumbai
on Wednesday to decide the venue-based distribution of the 29 games in India for the event.

While the final will be played in Mumbai, one of the semifinals will take place in Mohali (the other has been given to Sri Lanka).

Though Chennai hasn't got any of the matches in the last-four stage, it has been assured of one India game along with three ties involving other teams.

However, the entire itinerary hasn't been drawn as yet, and it's not yet known which India game Chepauk will host.

The renovation work at the MAC stadium is currently on in full swing. It is likely to get over by the end of 2010, much before the World Cup in March.

With 29 games being played in India, the rest of the 20 games have been awarded to Sri Lanka (12) and Bangladesh (8).

The committee decided to give two other matches to Mohali, apart from the semifinal.

Ahmedabad has been given a quarterfinal and two other games, while Kolkata and Delhi will host one India and three other matches each, BCCI secretary N Srinivasan said in a statement.

India's share of World Cup matches increased by eight after the games scheduled in Pakistan were shifted to other venues due to security concerns of the participating countries.

The venue-based match distribution is as follow Mumbai (final and two games); Mohali (semifinal and two games); Ahmedabad (quarterfinal and two games); Delhi (one India game and three games); Chennai (one India game and three games); Bangalore (one India game and three games); Nagpur (one India game and three games); and Kolkata (one India game and three games).

Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/5125878.cms

No games in Hyderabad?? Will Chennai be hosting any games for IPL 2010 if held in India as it is undergoing renovation.