Chennai discussions II

[Arasu]

Originally Posted by Anniyan

Tamil word for glass bottle is "Butti", pronounced as the French word for bottle.


Other word that has similarity between Tamil and French is "The" for Tea.

Butti is more like Madras bashai than a good Tamil word.

Madras bashai is a mixture of Tamil with English, Telugu and Urdu and may be more.

[Cosmicbliss]

But I never saw-even less educated persons-saying "thani butti/thani koodu kudunga"

By the way, how to say "best friend"? "He/she is my best friend. I know "Aval en nanban"/Avan en nanban. Is there a word or phrase which means close/good friend?

[sanjaysan]

Originally Posted by Cosmicbliss

But I never saw-even less educated persons-saying "thani butti/thani koodu kudunga"

By the way, how to say "best friend"? "He/she is my best friend. I know "Aval en nanban"/Avan en nanban. Is there a word or phrase which means close/good friend?

You can use the word Nerungiya Nanban or Uyir Nanban to specify "very close friend" Sir...

Thats because of the infuence of english Sir, people use to say water bottle or water packet, Even many may not use the word "Thani" ...

[inchennai]

Originally Posted by Cosmicbliss

But I never saw-even less educated persons-saying "thani butti/thani koodu kudunga"

By the way, how to say "best friend"? "He/she is my best friend. I know "Aval en nanban"/Avan en nanban. Is there a word or phrase which means close/good friend?

"Nerungiya nanban"

do you know there are other words to refer friend, like
ThOlan/ThOli (which can be the root for Hindi DOst.)
Koottaali
ChEkkaali

[inchennai]

Originally Posted by Cosmicbliss

Guys in Hindi "botal" is the word for bottle. What is the Tamil word for bottle? In Chennai I noticed people saying "Oru water bottle kudunga". My friends in fact don't know the Tamil word for bottle

Putti is the Tamil word for bottle. but everyone uses English bottle

[kongutamizhan]

Originally Posted by Cosmicbliss

But I never saw-even less educated persons-saying "thani butti/thani koodu kudunga

butti is turning out to be an elite reserved word for tamilians and we use it whenever we turn poetic or romantic. Unless accompanied by its more powerful cousin kutty many won't even understand the meaning of butti now and it lost its identity.

Bottomline butti as a standalone word is influenced by kutty and gives a different meaning today #advancedtamil-for-cosmicbliss

[Vicvin86]

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle3313386.ece

There are other apprehensions too. A. Narayan, of P.S. Senior Secondary School, says: “Our school has a certain culture and our parents have sent us here expecting children from similar backgrounds. It is a good thing that we will get exposed to people from different backgrounds, but we might not turn out the way our parents want us to.” For instance, he explains, “We perform Sandhya Vandanam at homes; we don't bring non vegetarian food to school. Now we will have to face the world right away.”

Kaushik Swaminathan of Sri Sankara Senior Secondary School is happy with the Act but not with the implementation. “Ideally, they should have a year of training in English and basic mathematics so that they are not left out in the class room. If the quality of education gets diluted, the existing students will lose out.” “I think the private schools can do their bit by sending their teachers to train teachers in government schools, instead of being forced to admit children. This way, both sides will be benefited and no one will feel left out,” he feels.

95 edukaravana 98 edukavakarathu periya visayam illa, Veetla sollithara yaarum illatha, tution poga vasathillathavana pass panna vakarathu than kastam. Antha vithathula paatha govt and govt aided school(I studied in one) teachers are far better than those who trained to trained the best of the best...

[karkal]

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[R2IChennai]

Originally Posted by Vicvin86

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle3313386.ece


95 edukaravana 98 edukavakarathu periya visayam illa, Veetla sollithara yaarum illatha, tution poga vasathillathavana pass panna vakarathu than kastam. Antha vithathula paatha govt and govt aided school(I studied in one) teachers are far better than those who trained to trained the best of the best...

will they implement in all schools like international schools too? who will pay for the tuition?

[Ramakrishnan Sitaram]

R2I, very valid question but the question government doesn't want private institution to raise.. Already some student federation has announced for a 'sit-in' front of private schools who don't admit poor students..

[ImsaiArasan]

Originally Posted by Cosmicbliss

But I never saw-even less educated persons-saying "thani butti/thani koodu kudunga"

By the way, how to say "best friend"? "He/she is my best friend. I know "Aval en nanban"/Avan en nanban. Is there a word or phrase which means close/good friend?

There are many words does not have equivalent of direct Tamil word.
Example Apple, Orange, Cauli flower, beans, plums.

[vinodgopal]

Originally Posted by ImsaiArasan

There are many words does not have equivalent of direct Tamil word.
Example Apple, Orange, Cauli flower, beans, plums.

because these were not known by the ancient tamils and only after the medieval times when Europeans colonized India we started referring them by their own language. Orange = aaru anju = 11 shozhais in the fruit is a joke reference and not actually a fact.

We use Putti every now and then. When we see a thick spectacles wearing person we call him soda putti. but now a days they have many solutions to it and we hardly see a person with such an eye glasses on.

[inchennai]

Originally Posted by vinodgopal

because these were not known by the ancient tamils and only after the medieval times when Europeans colonized India we started referring them by their own language. Orange = aaru anju = 11 shozhais in the fruit is a joke reference and not actually a fact.

We use Putti every now and then. When we see a thick spectacles wearing person we call him soda putti. but now a days they have many solutions to it and we hardly see a person with such an eye glasses on.

Most of IE words should be there in Tamil originally.

Orange came from the word Naarthankaai. Naatram means smell in Tamil.

[Anniyan]

Latin word for bottle is also "Butti".

French word bouteille is also pronounced as buttee.

Other Tamil word that is similar to french is thé for tea.

[Vicvin86]

Originally Posted by R2IChennai

will they implement in all schools like international schools too? who will pay for the tuition?

Looks like you did not get what I wrote..

[thillai_selvan]

Originally Posted by Raji7373

But still tharamani link road which starts from Vijayanagar Bus junction is terrible. (Full of pot holes and garbage) M.G.R Salai where RMZ, SP Info city & CTS are located is becoming worst day by day. IT parks located amidst of garbage & slums. That can happen only in Chennai.

+100. I am dreaming for a day when these roads will become like Anna salai.... Atleast they should start planting trees on both sides of roads...

[Arul Murugan]

Originally Posted by thillai_selvan

+100. I am dreaming for a day when these roads will become like Anna salai.... Atleast they should start planting trees on both sides of roads...

thambi anna salai ya...

taramani link road is the most filthy road in chennai.. last week I traveled in that road from MGR salai to vijayanagar Jn. Pathetic road and no works happenening there!!

I recommend every major road in chennai or tier II city to have Anna arivalaiyam and admk office.. then our roads will look good.

[dkravind]

Originally Posted by Arul Murugan

thambi anna salai ya...

taramani link road is the most filthy road in chennai.. last week I traveled in that road from MGR salai to vijayanagar Jn. Pathetic road and no works happenening there!!

I recommend every major road in chennai or tier II city to have Anna arivalaiyam and admk office.. then our roads will look good.

Thats true arul .... Dont know what to say .... So pathetic and helpless crying is our situation when it comes to Infrastructure in India

[ranga]

What are your plans for India?
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle3318692.ece
For Caterpillar, investment continues in India, much like it does around the world. We are opening our backhoe loader facility in Tiruvallur. In November last, we announced the second phase of our expansion, on the Perkins 4000 series engine plant in Aurangabad, Maharashtra. It will be our first plant outside Tamil Nadu and we are excited about that. This will be also the first Perkins 4000 series engine plant outside the U.K.We are just beginning construction and that's going to keep us busy for the rest of this year till we go into production, in the first quarter of 2015.

How are you coping with the power supply problem in Tamil Nadu?

Obviously Tamil Nadu has had some problem with the power supply over the last five years. We have been told that that's going to be abated as new supply comes on, but for us in our supply base, Tier-I and Tier-II suppliers have felt the pinch on planned and unplanned cuts. You can devise strategies to work around planned cuts, but unplanned bite pretty hard. It is difficult to work around, so we have appealed that unplanned cuts should not happen. It should only be planned, so that business can plan.Is this driving more investors towards Maharashtra and Gujarat?

Power certainly is one, the other is port. We export out of Chennai. We also take some stuff out of Ennore. The efficiency of the ports in Tamil Nadu has deteriorated over the last couple of years and we have also talked about this to the government. There were well intentioned plans to expand, but they have not been executed for a variety of reasons. I think we have reached a choke point. We take containerised cargo out of Mumbai. As we feel the port situation is better up north, we decided to set up the Perkins plant at Aurangabad. It is lot easier to move the engines as they are containerised.

Will you be exporting Perkins engine from Aurangabad?

It will depend on the market conditions. We think half of the production would be for China and half for India. The initial capacity of the plant would be 3,000 units and we expect it to go up to 5,000 units.

How conducive is the regulatory framework in India? What changes do you look forward to?

Lots. Number one is environmental clearances. Last July there was a new Environment Minister from Tamil Nadu and we have very high expectations.

But, as of today, there are 571 environmental clearances pending, most of which relate to mining and construction projects. The issue is how do we get to a point where you have a fast and fair decision. My feeling is that environmentalists have prevailed. We should not impair the development potential of India and my belief is that's the root cause for the slow down in GDP.

What do investors expect from the government?

There needs to be some predictability and certainty for investors, whether domestic companies or foreign investors, to understand what the pros and cons of the engagement are. We have to plan our affairs right and investments like ours are not something that we put in place and then we can pull off and move to another market.


There needs to be some predictability and certainty for investors,

whether domestic companies or foreign investors, to understand

what the pros and cons of the engagement are.

[kongutamizhan]

Originally Posted by ranga

How are you coping with the power supply problem in Tamil Nadu?

Obviously Tamil Nadu has had some problem with the power supply over the last five years. We have been told that that's going to be abated as new supply comes on, but for us in our supply base, Tier-I and Tier-II suppliers have felt the pinch on planned and unplanned cuts. You can devise strategies to work around planned cuts, but unplanned bite pretty hard. It is difficult to work around, so we have appealed that unplanned cuts should not happen. It should only be planned, so that business can plan.Is this driving more investors towards Maharashtra and Gujarat?

[B]Power certainly is one, the other is port. We export out of Chennai. We also take some stuff out of Ennore. The efficiency of the ports in Tamil Nadu has deteriorated over the last couple of years and we have also talked about this to the government. There were well intentioned plans to expand, but they have not been executed for a variety of reasons. I think we have reached a choke point. We take containerised cargo out of Mumbai. As we feel the port situation is better up north, we decided to set up the Perkins plant at Aurangabad. It is lot easier to move the engines as they are containerised.

indha maadiri naalu peru podanila pottalum namma makkal tamilnaadu olirgirathunu solluratha nirutha maatanga

ini caterpillar namma makkal naakula naayi padatha paadu padum indha threadla. (because obvisouly if they move out it can only be their fault and not the fault of TN state and they don't deserve us)