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HipHopCanada · February 5th, 2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by filcan

It looks like they're starting the recladding of FCP...

Uhh it started like 3 months ago lol. I assume it'll be done by 2015.

filcan · February 5th, 2010, 02:17 AM

Eh?...3 months but it looks like they've only done about two floors...looks pretty slow to me...

isaidso · February 5th, 2010, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by filcan

Eh?...3 months but it looks like they've only done about two floors...looks pretty slow to me...

They're saying it will take a few years to complete. I'm not sure why cladding should take longer that building a tower from scratch, but that seems to be the time line.

jjippidy · February 6th, 2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by isaidso

They're saying it will take a few years to complete. I'm not sure why cladding should take longer that building a tower from scratch, but that seems to be the time line.

Well, it is a huge building.

The cladding of new buildings takes place while the structure is still being built.

And, on this one you're not only cladding, you're removing 300lb sections of marble 900 feet up and retrofiring the new cladding into a system originally designed to hold rock.

isaidso · February 6th, 2010, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jjippidy

Well, it is a huge building.

The cladding of new buildings takes place while the structure is still being built.

And, on this one you're not only cladding, you're removing 300lb sections of marble 900 feet up and retrofiring the new cladding into a system originally designed to hold rock.

Good points.

InTheBeach · February 7th, 2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jjippidy

Well, it is a huge building.

The cladding of new buildings takes place while the structure is still being built.

And, on this one you're not only cladding, you're removing 300lb sections of marble 900 feet up and retrofiring the new cladding into a system originally designed to hold rock.

And no full-size crane.

Mind you, the old Guardian building was reclad pretty quickly.

AndrewJM3D · February 7th, 2010, 11:50 PM

One reason it takes so long to re-clad compared to new build is that you're no longer working with a construction site. You're working on a fully functioning building. they only have a fraction of the space to stage for the retrofit. When building they would have had a massive boom crane and each new floor would have acted as a staging floor for materials. The can only use the roof and the podium roof to stage for this.

jjippidy · February 8th, 2010, 02:55 AM

Another good point, and probably the main source for the slow down.

All things considered, the timeline could actually be viewed as fairly speedy.

valantino · February 8th, 2010, 06:22 AM

This one is looking a lot better than expected despite the lime green spandrel

Marco Polo · February 8th, 2010, 01:48 PM

I agree with you Rudolph.

isaidso · February 8th, 2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by valantino

This one is looking a lot better than expected despite the lime green spandrel

I would have preferred navy. Fire engine red might have looked good too, but lots of stodgy types would have had a fit.

valantino · February 9th, 2010, 06:21 AM

I guess there's a fine line between imagination and poor taste. Fire engine red spandrel glass on a classically design building likely falls in the latter category.

isaidso · February 9th, 2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by valantino

I guess there's a fine line between imagination and poor taste. Fire engine red spandrel glass on a classically design building likely falls in the latter category.

I knew you'd fall for that one. Quite predictable. The point being you're awfully self righteous about what is an appropriate aesthetic. You do realize that there is not one correct style that's accepted as good taste. With you it seems to be if it doesn't fit your stodgy personal taste or personal accepted way of doing something, it is wrong or silly. It's getting really tiring listening to you offer personal opinion as fact.

valantino · February 9th, 2010, 09:25 PM

Well, I grow tired of your passive aggressiveness towards those that see past your thinly veiled self enlightenment. And, there is something definable as good taste that goes beyond personal opinion. The lime green cladding would not be my personal choice but, at least represents a traditional cladding colour in the form of oxidized copper. On the other hand, fire engine red would represent the worse in PoMo historcism in trying to be both modern contemporary and traditional at the same time. Trump is enough of a candidate already.

I'm not implying expertise nor are you supposed to take make that seriously.

isaidso · February 10th, 2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by valantino

I'm not implying expertise nor are you supposed to take make that seriously.

Finally, something we can agree on. Let's move on.

Intheknow07 · February 11th, 2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by isaidso

Finally, something we can agree on. Let's move on.

Hilarious!!

HipHopCanada · February 11th, 2010, 11:57 PM

Looking/Up · February 12th, 2010, 02:11 AM

Thanks for posting, it's going to look great once done.

The CI Investment's building you get a shot of in the video is terrible.

Jasonzed · February 14th, 2010, 03:50 AM

Sid_toronto · February 15th, 2010, 12:25 AM

thanks for the update, it's starting to look like a skyscraper already, i'm loving the gray stone.

February 5th, 2010, 02:17 AM	#3362
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February 7th, 2010, 11:50 PM	#3367
AndrewJM3D Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,028 Likes (Received): 15	One reason it takes so long to re-clad compared to new build is that you're no longer working with a construction site. You're working on a fully functioning building. they only have a fraction of the space to stage for the retrofit. When building they would have had a massive boom crane and each new floor would have acted as a staging floor for materials. The can only use the roof and the podium roof to stage for this. Last edited by AndrewJM3D; February 8th, 2010 at 08:46 PM.

February 8th, 2010, 06:22 AM	#3369
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,469 Likes (Received): 0	This one is looking a lot better than expected despite the lime green spandrel __________________ Jeez, supertalls and faux deco.

February 9th, 2010, 06:21 AM	#3372
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,469 Likes (Received): 0	I guess there's a fine line between imagination and poor taste. Fire engine red spandrel glass on a classically design building likely falls in the latter category. __________________ Jeez, supertalls and faux deco.

February 9th, 2010, 09:25 PM	#3374
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,469 Likes (Received): 0	Well, I grow tired of your passive aggressiveness towards those that see past your thinly veiled self enlightenment. And, there is something definable as good taste that goes beyond personal opinion. The lime green cladding would not be my personal choice but, at least represents a traditional cladding colour in the form of oxidized copper. On the other hand, fire engine red would represent the worse in PoMo historcism in trying to be both modern contemporary and traditional at the same time. Trump is enough of a candidate already. I'm not implying expertise nor are you supposed to take make that seriously. __________________ Jeez, supertalls and faux deco.

February 8th, 2010, 02:55 AM	#3368
jjippidy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 123 Likes (Received): 0	Another good point, and probably the main source for the slow down. All things considered, the timeline could actually be viewed as fairly speedy.

February 8th, 2010, 01:48 PM	#3370
Marco Polo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sudetenland Posts: 4,325 Likes (Received): 44	I agree with you Rudolph.

February 11th, 2010, 11:57 PM	#3377
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February 12th, 2010, 02:11 AM	#3378
Looking/Up Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,117 Likes (Received): 1	Thanks for posting, it's going to look great once done. The CI Investment's building you get a shot of in the video is terrible. __________________ I dropped you off at the train station, And put a kiss on top of your head I watched you wave, I watched you wave Then I went on home to my skyscrapers, Neon lights and waiting papers That I call home, I call it home - Adele

February 14th, 2010, 03:50 AM	#3379
Jasonzed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mississauga Posts: 5,202 Likes (Received): 90	__________________ _________________________________________________ Please visit myMississauga thread in Urban Showcase http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=641695 Please listen to Filo, myGirlfriend's music:) http://music.cbc.ca/#/artists/Filo

February 15th, 2010, 12:25 AM	#3380
Sid_toronto urbanite Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: x-Toronto Posts: 1,556 Likes (Received): 0	thanks for the update, it's starting to look like a skyscraper already, i'm loving the gray stone.

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