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Old March 13th, 2007, 02:16 PM   #241
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It looks like 4 tiers to me...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 08:48 AM   #242
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Largest Cantilevered Tier?

I've always been fascinated by the engineering that allows seating decks to be cantilevered over the lower decks in stadiums. The bigger the cantilever, the more I like it--it seems.

Anyway, I was very curious if it's known what the largest cantilevered seating deck is in any stadium. The largest one that I'm familiar with is the upper deck at Yankee Stadium. It's about 22 rows from the front row to the first row that isn't on the cantilever (not counting the walkway):




The white part of the end section clearly shows the cantilever, roughly 3/4 of the entire tier.





It's actually a cable-reinforced cantilever, with a steel cable "pulling" on the back of the deck to counterbalance the enormous weight:

If anybody has any examples of a larger cantilevered seating deck I'd love to see them!
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Old January 28th, 2008, 09:12 AM   #243
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That stadium would be far better looking if the stand went all the way around.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #244
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I've always been fascinated by the engineering that allows seating decks to be cantilevered over the lower decks in stadiums. The bigger the cantilever, the more I like it--it seems.
Totaly agree with you, then you must like Spanish footballstadiums too?
The same goes with me about steepness. The steeper the better!

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That stadium would be far better looking if the stand went all the way around.
It´s a baseballstadium... I like it the way it is!
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Old January 28th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #245
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it is not big but this is what you mean? (Elche CF stadium)

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Old January 28th, 2008, 10:52 AM   #246
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It´s a baseballstadium... I like it the way it is!
I just don't understand why they do that in baseball stadiums. Personally, i think it looks pretty awful like that. But that's just my opinion.

Sorry for taking this off topic a bit. Carry on...
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #247
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Old January 28th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #248
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Marckymarc do you know the steepness of the second deck?
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:18 PM   #249
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #250
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Lot of stadia in europe have that kind of tiers.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 12:55 PM   #251
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I've always been fascinated by the engineering that allows seating decks to be cantilevered over the lower decks in stadiums. The bigger the cantilever, the more I like it--it seems.

Anyway, I was very curious if it's known what the largest cantilevered seating deck is in any stadium. The largest one that I'm familiar with is the upper deck at Yankee Stadium. It's about 22 rows from the front row to the first row that isn't on the cantilever (not counting the walkway):

It's actually a cable-reinforced cantilever, with a steel cable "pulling" on the back of the deck to counterbalance the enormous weight:

If anybody has any examples of a larger cantilevered seating deck I'd love to see them!
I asked a related question a few days ago regarding the North Stand at Highbury (Arsenal FC). I think the entire upper tier cantilevered over the lower, balanced by large concourse areas at the rear of the whole structure. I'm sure the curved stadia often manipulate this feature most dramatically due to the intrinsic rigidity of a curved upper tier eg. Athens. I agree, these type of stands have the most dramatic effect, and of course are also functional in that they bring people closer to the action while offering the broadest range of views. Too many tiers can dilute the atmosphere though.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 01:19 PM   #252
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I can't find a suitable picture to demonstrate it but there's a fairly hefty overhang at the Maracana. The one between the first and second tier at the Millennium Stadium is fairly large as well:

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Old January 29th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #253
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That stadium would be far better looking if the stand went all the way around.
the blueprints were designed for it, but it was never built.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 04:51 AM   #254
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we've already seen what an entirely bowled baseball stadium looked like in Anahiem. All I have to say is Yuck.

As for cantilevers, those are good examples, but I think a more real example is the upper deck at DKR. It is truly cantilevered and not just hanging over a little bit.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 11:48 AM   #255
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camp nou got a big one to

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Old January 30th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #256
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Can you clear up the criteria we should be looking at? Is the number of seats that are "overhung" important, or simply the depth of the tier before you reach any supporting structure? There's no fixed correlation between the two - some cantilevered tiers are completely over another tier, some are over concourses/empty space.
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Can you clear up the criteria we should be looking at? Is the number of seats that are "overhung" important, or simply the depth of the tier before you reach any supporting structure? There's no fixed correlation between the two - some cantilevered tiers are completely over another tier, some are over concourses/empty space.
The depth of the tier. I don't care what's underneath the cantilever, just the size of the cantilever itself. Unfortunately, many of the examples given in this thread don't show the real depth of the cantilever, they're just pictures of cantilevers.

So far it looks like DKR Stadium in Texas, Bukit Jalil National Stadium and Yankee Stadium have the biggest--more than 20 rows each.

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Old January 30th, 2008, 09:24 PM   #259
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Old January 30th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #260
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Whoa, that's HUGE! Looks like 25 rows--we could have a winner!
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