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Old May 27th, 2013, 09:56 AM   #6041
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What Tuticorin railway station don't have town bus connectivity?? How people are reaching station then?
People get down at Chinna Kovil Stop / Muncipal office stop and walk 400- 500 metres with all luggage to reach the station. Or take a taxi / auto.

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Old May 27th, 2013, 12:22 PM   #6043
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Vignesh Sir,

Anthonny Sir's reply is a representation of all the passengers who have a tough time walking to the railway station and not from any of rail enthusiasts like me. Day by day the situtation is getting worse both in infrastucture and in operational needs from Tuticorin. MDU should atleast take some steps to improve Tuticorin and to make it look like a passenger friendly railway station.
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Vignesh Sir,

Anthonny Sir's reply is a representation of all the passengers who have a tough time walking to the railway station and not from any of rail enthusiasts like me. Day by day the situtation is getting worse both in infrastucture and in operational needs from Tuticorin. MDU should atleast take some steps to improve Tuticorin and to make it look like a passenger friendly railway station.
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Nellai also doesn't have bus connectivity to Junction Rly Station.
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Old May 27th, 2013, 02:13 PM   #6046
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Seriya sonnenga. Tuticorin la ippothaikku verum station thaan irukku. Station irukurathukkaha 1 fake superfast express, 1 express, 1/4 express train, 1 weekly express, 2 maattu vandi with diesel engine ah vittu vatchurukaanga.
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Old May 27th, 2013, 02:27 PM   #6047
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Thillai Sir,

What happened to the Junction bustand? All busses plying to Thenkasi and busses coming into the city from Thenkasi had to have a mandate stop at Junction bus stand and a fare is also collected. This has been approved by the Collector of Tirunelveli in 2004 itself as the new bus stand came into existence in 2003. I hope the bus stand is still operational.
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Old May 27th, 2013, 04:54 PM   #6048
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1000 acres to be aquired for ship building yard
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This is a great news... this should happen fast.

Yes few people need to make sacrifices by moving to other places; but eventually people and business of Tuty will benefit greatly by a shipyard.

But cant believe the claims that a lakh to 2 lakh people will lose their jobs in salt industry. If there is a lakh people is employed in this industry.. then it is a matter of few years that this industry will lose its value in the market; they need to understand that labor will become costlier and costlier and eventually they will lose the market to others who have automated their production - which is now becoming the case as salt from Gujarat is cheaper than what is produced in Tuticorin. So if they have 1 lakh jobs today, even without a shipyard coming up they will lose their jobs eventually because of no market for their product.

With a lovely ECR, most salt pans are now coming up on the Ramnad Road and these are ideal places for salt pans.. Most of the private owned salt pans along the bypass road and Tiruchendur Road have already converted themselves into warehouses or have sold to logistics companies. Within a radius of 10 Kms from the Tuty Port salt pans should be phased out as these are prime land for logistics operations. We have vast areas of land in the north of tuticorin which are ideal for these salt pans. Ofcourse salt pans are not agriculture lands that we need to feel sorry for relocation; production levels are almost the same whether it is near the port or some 30 kms away from the town.

If these agitations give way, Tuty should have a great future. Cheers!!!
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Well it will be easier to move the railway close to a bus stop; than bringing a bus route to the railway station... and in IR terms moving a railway station means a lifetime - maybe in a century this can happen

Jokes apart, moving the secondary station of Tuticorin - Keelur to next to the bus station was doing the rounds for quite some time - and it is the most ideal solution than arranging for a bus route to railway station; but then for IR this will never be a priority. So we will have to use our own transport to reach the station.

People of Tuty will be more happy if they have better connectivity to Mumbai, Delhi, Kerala and many other destinations; having a bus route to tuticorin is not a big priority unless we use train for daily commutation which is not case here.

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Old May 28th, 2013, 04:53 AM   #6051
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BlackPearl Sir,

I will reveal the reality of what happened to the relocation of the Railway Station. Couple of decades ago, we gave an idea to relocate the railway station to Milavittan as Milavittan had the potential to become the Junction and this idea had the solution to evade traffic in all the 3 railway gates within the city limits. Southern Railways also agreed to this idea and brought up a plan to relocate the Railways station. But with the help of short sighted politicians of Tuticorin agitation broke out and the project was stopped. Along with the agitation the day time trains of Tuticorin which were in proposal also were cancelled. So the station was retained in Keelur and the bridge was built in 3rd gate and the 4th gate was opened.

Well, the damamge was done and to heal it a little bit, we asked to move the Melur station opposite to New bustand and build it for a complete 24 coach length. This length is exactly the length from under the bridge from 3rd gate to 4th gate. But our elite Tuticorin Corporation was not ready to allocate the land for the platform. So now its that the same Melur station will be retained in the same place and has to be extended atleast upto the karutha paalam. In future people from the unreserved coach of Pearlcity express may even jump into the gutter!!!!!

Now the same people who opposed the shifting of station to Milavittan are asking to shift it to Milavittan after they saw the news of Arupukottai - Milavittan, Milavittan - Arumuganeri new lines. But now it can be done but only partially. The life line of Tuticorin railways - the pitline is in Keelur. Even if the trains are stopped in Milavittan, atleast for maintanence, trains will come to Keelur.

We can now make just one thing. Rename Milavittan as Tuticorin Junction and Keelur as Tuticorin Central and to terminate trains in Milavittan which have no maintanence in Tuticorin (Pearlcity, Mysore Express, Coimbatore link, Chennai daytime link, passengers) and bring trains to Keelur which have maintanence in Tuticorin (Vivek Express).

Issue is Milavittan has to be improved to the limit to handle all such trains and there should be a good road to reach Tuticorin from Milavittan station.

I am not sure whether this would happen in my lifetime. Our city is very well known for hindering development projects from bus stand to railway station. Lets learn to live in this situation.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 05:42 AM   #6052
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I will reveal the reality of what happened to the relocation of the Railway Station. Couple of decades ago, we gave an idea to relocate the railway station to Milavittan as Milavittan had the potential to become the Junction and this idea had the solution to evade traffic in all the 3 railway gates within the city limits. Southern Railways also agreed to this idea and brought up a plan to relocate the Railways station. But with the help of short sighted politicians of Tuticorin agitation broke out and the project was stopped. Along with the agitation the day time trains of Tuticorin which were in proposal also were cancelled. So the station was retained in Keelur and the bridge was built in 3rd gate and the 4th gate was opened.

Well, the damamge was done and to heal it a little bit, we asked to move the Melur station opposite to New bustand and build it for a complete 24 coach length. This length is exactly the length from under the bridge from 3rd gate to 4th gate. But our elite Tuticorin Corporation was not ready to allocate the land for the platform. So now its that the same Melur station will be retained in the same place and has to be extended atleast upto the karutha paalam. In future people from the unreserved coach of Pearlcity express may even jump into the gutter!!!!!

Now the same people who opposed the shifting of station to Milavittan are asking to shift it to Milavittan after they saw the news of Arupukottai - Milavittan, Milavittan - Arumuganeri new lines. But now it can be done but only partially. The life line of Tuticorin railways - the pitline is in Keelur. Even if the trains are stopped in Milavittan, atleast for maintanence, trains will come to Keelur.

We can now make just one thing. Rename Milavittan as Tuticorin Junction and Keelur as Tuticorin Central and to terminate trains in Milavittan which have no maintanence in Tuticorin (Pearlcity, Mysore Express, Coimbatore link, Chennai daytime link, passengers) and bring trains to Keelur which have maintanence in Tuticorin (Vivek Express).

Issue is Milavittan has to be improved to the limit to handle all such trains and there should be a good road to reach Tuticorin from Milavittan station.

I am not sure whether this would happen in my lifetime. Our city is very well known for hindering development projects from bus stand to railway station. Lets learn to live in this situation.
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Firstly, i accept your ideas about Tuticorin Junction and Tuticorin central.

But please consider that we are taking of people not able to reach Tuticorin melur station by bus which is only 4-5 kms from both bus stands inside city. How can people reach 10 kms outside the city limits. No connectivity even till date. Not even a single bus to meelavittan station. Only one SIPCOT bus (two times a day). I hope you have visited meelvittan station. It is a aloof station with hardly 5-10 people boarding trains at any time. It is an industrial area, and improvements in meelavittan is skeptical.

Again i accept your suggestion of changing the tuticorin keelur station to Opposite new bus stand. As you have said, the main trains destined to Tuticorin can stop at this station. Only those trains that need pit lane, halt can go to the tuticorin melur station. in this way the I and II gate closures will be lessened. But are there enough space opp. new bus stand for a Railway Station. It can maximum handle 2-3 tracks with platforms only, then how station, parking etc.

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Old May 28th, 2013, 06:01 AM   #6053
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This is a great news... this should happen fast.

Yes few people need to make sacrifices by moving to other places; but eventually people and business of Tuty will benefit greatly by a shipyard.

But cant believe the claims that a lakh to 2 lakh people will lose their jobs in salt industry. If there is a lakh people is employed in this industry.. then it is a matter of few years that this industry will lose its value in the market; they need to understand that labor will become costlier and costlier and eventually they will lose the market to others who have automated their production - which is now becoming the case as salt from Gujarat is cheaper than what is produced in Tuticorin. So if they have 1 lakh jobs today, even without a shipyard coming up they will lose their jobs eventually because of no market for their product.

With a lovely ECR, most salt pans are now coming up on the Ramnad Road and these are ideal places for salt pans.. Most of the private owned salt pans along the bypass road and Tiruchendur Road have already converted themselves into warehouses or have sold to logistics companies. Within a radius of 10 Kms from the Tuty Port salt pans should be phased out as these are prime land for logistics operations. We have vast areas of land in the north of tuticorin which are ideal for these salt pans. Ofcourse salt pans are not agriculture lands that we need to feel sorry for relocation; production levels are almost the same whether it is near the port or some 30 kms away from the town.

If these agitations give way, Tuty should have a great future. Cheers!!!
Thanks for your positive thinking

The land that is going to be acquired is from Our Port. The balance land is porumbokku land that has been identified near mullakadu (700-1000 acres). most of the lands is under lease to the salt panes. they are being recovered back. hence, there is no need for sacrificing lands - as per our district collector. The word 2 lakh mentioned here is the total number of people involved in salt industry allover the tuticorin district which is more than 22,000 acres. the number of people directly have to shift places or jobs will be not more than 2000 at any survey.

Thanks for your suggestion that north tuticorin has vast lands. lands of more than 10,000 acres along coastal line can be converted to slat panes in the ECR. NO possibilites of agriculture in this areas. Sahayamatha salt panes, is in vepalodai, which is nearly 10 kms from taruvaikulam. this suplies salt to Tata Salt, annaporna and another branded company. apart from this it exports also.

But the problem of shifting of shifting involves two jobs. One is manpower. next is land.
1) the manpower available in north Tuticorin is already occupied by the existing salt panes. Comparing Gujarat, the wage per manday is not more than Rs. 110/-. but our people demand Rs.350 - 450/-. automation will soon be implemented.

2) The land has to be identified. unlike Gujarat (where sea tide is used), we are using bore wells. hence, the bore well has to be studied. next the land should be filled with clay sand and it takes 3-6 months to create a new salt pane. the first two output has to be discarded for land setting. Land has to be purchased at Rs. 10-30 lakhs per acre.

But the above is the only solution for Tuticorin growth.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 06:08 AM   #6054
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Milavittan is part of the city limits now. As part of the development plan Milavittan has to be improved with good road facilities and station. At the max now, we can have a couple of platforms, and stabling lines and a good road. Initially mini busses can reach and then it can progress further. If not this is done now, once it become a junction, automatically things will happen. Anyways, doubling of railway tracks which is progressing from Chengalpattu towards Kanyakumari and also has an extension to Tuticorin which is only upto Milavittan.

Sir, Tuticorin Keelur station can never be moved away since the pitline is there. I meant here is the Tuticorin Melur station. Have you seen the overhead electrical line and the posts between the 4th gate and the 3rd gate? If you have seen it clearly, the poles for the overhead electrical lines will be in one side between the 3rd gate and the 4th gate and beyond the 4th gate it will be in the other side. This is done to have a single platform like Melur station there. The area opposite to the New bus stand cannot accomodate a fully fledged station with all passenger friendly amenities. But it can be done in Milavittan.
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What happened to the Junction bustand? All busses plying to Thenkasi and busses coming into the city from Thenkasi had to have a mandate stop at Junction bus stand and a fare is also collected. This has been approved by the Collector of Tirunelveli in 2004 itself as the new bus stand came into existence in 2003. I hope the bus stand is still operational.
All the buses are starting from new bus stand only. the buses going to tenkasi will be stopped opposite to tiruchendur buses

But it has been a practise from long back and hence, the buses go to jucntion and pickup the passengers. Moreover there is no direct route from thenkasi road to new bus stand. hence the buses have to ply inside the city.

Only now outer ring road is proposed and i do not know in what stage it is.
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Anthony Sir,

If we want to move ahead from the congested Melur station area and to evade traffic jams when the gates are closed, we have to do this. Tuticorin is already in dire need of trains to Chennai, Mumbai, Kolkata, New Delhi, Kerala and Mangalore. These trains will come in the form of being maintained in Tuticorin pitlines only. Then the 1st gate will be in the state of being closed most of the time as these coaches will be shunted front and back. Soon Keelur will become congested then where will all the coaches go? We have to move it to Milavittan. Now if we stop trains at Milavittan that are not maintained in pitline atleast we can save ourfself from traffic jams and unwanted shunting between Keelur and Milavittan station and unwanted closure of railways gates. Milavittan will also grow to become a better station.
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What happened to the Junction bustand? All busses plying to Thenkasi and busses coming into the city from Thenkasi had to have a mandate stop at Junction bus stand and a fare is also collected. This has been approved by the Collector of Tirunelveli in 2004 itself as the new bus stand came into existence in 2003. I hope the bus stand is still operational.
Ya. What I am talking about is, unlike stations like Erode, Trichy, Salem, Chennai Egmore, Central it is not having bus stop for railway station and it is impossible ever
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Milavittan is part of the city limits now. As part of the development plan Milavittan has to be improved with good road facilities and station. At the max now, we can have a couple of platforms, and stabling lines and a good road. Initially mini busses can reach and then it can progress further. If not this is done now, once it become a junction, automatically things will happen. Anyways, doubling of railway tracks which is progressing from Chengalpattu towards Kanyakumari and also has an extension to Tuticorin which is only upto Milavittan.

Sir, Tuticorin Keelur station can never be moved away since the pitline is there. I meant here is the Tuticorin Melur station. Have you seen the overhead electrical line and the posts between the 4th gate and the 3rd gate? If you have seen it clearly, the poles for the overhead electrical lines will be in one side between the 3rd gate and the 4th gate and beyond the 4th gate it will be in the other side. This is done to have a single platform like Melur station there. The area opposite to the New bus stand cannot accomodate a fully fledged station with all passenger friendly amenities. But it can be done in Milavittan.
Thanks for your quick response.

I accept your suggestion of developing meelavittan station. and only meelavittan station can be developed into junction will all amenities.

But you are more aware than me about the madurai division. will it take initiatives to develop this station with new platforms. and even it takes it will make atleast four or five years to implement.

My no. is 9488071303. But i will not be able to pick phones during 8.00 am to 6.00 pm. (phone not allowed inside factory). Again, we can chat in here, where our discussions can bring in more people and new views and ideas
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Fishermen get ready for bumper catch

A boat getting a new coat of paint at the Tuticorin fishing harbour on Sunday

Even as the 45-day fishing ban period is nearing to an end, fishermen are busy overhauling their mechanised boats. The ban that came into effect on April 15 to allow breeding of marine fish along the East Coast will end on May 29.

Boat owners and fishermen have moored 262 mechanised boats at Tuticorin Fishing Harbour, which now witnesses hectic activities like dry docking of boats, maintenance works, overhauling of engines, repainting and mending of nets.

According to S.Xavier Vaz, president, Tuticorin Mechanised Boat Owners Association, major overhauling works, including engine works, on a large boat would involve an expenditure of Rs.5 lakh to Rs.10 lakh. Medium and small boats would need an average expenditure of Rs.3 lakh to Rs.4 lakh, he said. He said barnacles, which attached themselves to the bottom of boats, could be removed only during dry docking. If they were not removed, the weight of the boats would increase, leading to additional diesel consumption. “Only 10 per cent of the total fleet normally requires major works during this annual lean period, and the other boats need five to seven days of menial works,” Mr.Vaz told The Hindu.

Fishing nets also suffered damage as prime fishing grounds had hard and rocky sea bottom, J.Wellington Vaz, a boat owner said. Since nets could get damaged any time, the boats would carry a maximum of seven nets each to successfully complete their stay at sea, he said.

During the lean period, the fishermen were taught safety measures to be taken while fishing and various methods of responsible fishing, N.Neethi Selvan, Professor, Department of Fishing Technology and Fisheries Engineering, Fisheries College of Research and Institute, Tuticorin, said.

With only a few days left for the start of fishing season, most fishermen in the city and neighbouring coastal villages were seen mending nets, hoping for a bumper catch.

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Salt producers protest planned acquisition of salt pans

TUTICORIN: Salt producers in Tuticorin staged a protest on Monday in front of the collector's office against the proposed move to take over their salt pans for a shipbuilding yard.

Tamil Nadu government's proposal to set up the state's first ship building yard in Mullakadu has upset the salt producers here. They fear that their lands in Mullakadu and Muthiapuram would be taken over for the construction of the yard and that over one lakh workers who depend on these lands for their livelihood would lose their jobs. On Monday, hundreds of workers, along with their families, staged a protest in front of the collector's office expressing their opposition.

According to P Sekar, secretary of the Kovalam- Pasuvandharai Thanpadu Small-Scale Salt producers Association, they have had apprehensions since February when authorities started surveying their land. "Most of us come from traditional salt-producing families that have been producing it for the last 80 years after the Gandhi-Irwin pact allowed Indians to produce salt for their own use. In 1949, a government order allowed people living on the seashore to clear the lands and start producing salt. We do not own these land but they have been transformed into today's saltpans after our fathers and grandfathers painstakingly cleared forests and levelled the ground for many years," he said. They call themselves, 'thanpadu' salt makers which means physical labour of one's own. They now fear the government will take away the pans from them.

Meanwhile, speaking to the media after the grievance day meet at the Tuticorin district collector Ashish Kumar denied reports that private patta land would be taken over for the shipyard and that only about 1,000 acres would be procured for the construction of the yard. He said that there was no question of the workers losing their livelihood as they would find jobs in the shipyard.

Tamil Nadu stands second among the salt-producing states in India and Tuticorin contributes 90% of the salt produced in the state. The salt produced here is of high quality and exported abroad. About 22,000 acres are under salt production and of these 11,000 acres are run by small-scale producers who do not own the pans. The output from the saltpans of small-scale producers is 12 lakh tons. They employ about two lakh workers for various processes in salt production such as raking, collecting and storing.

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