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Old January 2nd, 2015, 12:12 AM   #21361
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The Shanghai Tower - The Greatest Light Show of 2015 (LIVE).
nice but this is just computerised...Not real show
colors too bright and no life around Shanghai tower
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 12:14 AM   #21362
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I just heard about the panic on the news. A dutch reporter filmed it all. I'm sorry for every Shanghainese and everyone who lost someone. It could be prevented. May them be blessed.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:08 AM   #21363
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pretty sad really . I was quite surprised hearing 37 people died thats a seriously big tragedy.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:16 AM   #21364
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Incredible lights show!!!! Really cool !
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:33 AM   #21365
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A stampede? Damn how can you step on people and not care?
No one wants to step on anyone. But when you're in the middle of a crowd surge, you can't control where you stand. All you can do is try to keep yourself upright.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 06:02 AM   #21366
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[QUOTE=Eroha;120302722]Memory of the victims of crush.







Does anybody else find it ironic, that there is a "Live for Now" sign up right in the background (Pepsi Slogan), at the gathering of people to pay respects to the people who were crushed and killed?

This really is sad, and preventable. I hope they find out who, or what caused this, and correct it so it does not happen again. I read somewhere that fake dollar bills were floating down to the street, and that is what started the rush? Or is that some kind of bullshit, or just a joke (that was fabricated too soon) after this tragedy?

I hope to visit China one day; especially Shanghai and HK. I have heard from many people that its a very nice experience, and you are actually more free to do what you would like over there, then what most people in the US tend to think?
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 06:17 AM   #21367
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A stampede? Damn how can you step on people and not care?

A stampede is never one where people run over others, but a slow crush of trapped bodies. Those who fall (fainting, crushed, tripping on lost shoes/handbags etc, on unseen stairs), die, and those who don't have no choice but to step on them, or fall over them too. Crushes usually happen when the crowd pushes one way to avoid a crush, while the crowd does the same from the other direction. Most people died on the corner, and the steps. It was over in minutes, and the majority of the people had no idea it happened. It wasn't caused so much by people running to get the fake money, but the fact the stunt made the crowd reverse direction.

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This is a rare photo of an example of a crush (Cambodia, 2010) where people are trapped on a pile of bodies after a person has fainted and tripped up more and more people - in the background people are standing up and have enough room, but those in the foreground cannot move even though noone is pushing any longer. They have been trapped long enough to be passing water to each other or have passed out even though the crush around them has dissipated. Neither can they turn. It took several hours to free them by moving dead bodies, and those with broken ribs and limbs.



^345 died that night as the crush 'spread' through the crowd. It started after someone fainted and people began tripping, then the crowd tried to move away from the crush eventually blocking a bridge. When the bridge began swaying from the amount of people jammed on it, the crush effect spread in all directions as people pushed to get off a potentially collapsing structure, which in turn created more falls and more crushes from the lost shoes and items of victims underfoot. Most people die not by falling in fact but the crush/ blockage that ensues a fall, where their ribcases are crushed and asphyxiated while they stand, trapped:



In short a 'stampede' usually manifests itself slowly and inexorably, while a few metres away people will be fine and have no idea what is happening in front of them. One example is the Bethnal Green disaster in London, when a woman dropped her baby as people entered an air raid. As she stooped to pick the girl up, someone tripped on her, on the stairs, which was all it took.



The Love Parade disaster in Germany started when the crowd went into two different directions, due to overcrowding police loudspeakers told people to turn back and out of the tunnel (the only entrance and exit for 1.4 million people), whilst people were still entering at the other end. The investigation showed it wasn't panic or a stampede, but 'crowd turbulence' that led to the tragedy.




similarly the worst crush ever was in Chongqing during wartime, when 700-1000 people died during an air raid. An all clear signal led to people exiting the huge shelter, but when the danger siren went off again people began to head back in again, while those inside were still trying to head out.

Only a few lethal crushes are caused by a genuine stampede - the Victoria Hall tragedy in England killed 183 children out of 1100 as free sweets were given out at the bottom of a stairs, with a locked doorway behind that only opened inward.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 08:32 AM   #21368
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Shanghai New Year's Eve crush ''kills 36''.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 08:32 AM   #21369
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a definite wow

Yes, that was phenomenally impressive! Wow... just one wish: after the countdown, was there no way to add "2015" somewhere in lights? It was anticlimactic at that time, waiting for the new year to show up.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 09:21 AM   #21370
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The Shanghai Tower - The Greatest Light Show of 2015 (LIVE).
Is this an animation or it is real? If this is real is AMAZING AMAZING really looks like a render or animation.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 09:44 AM   #21371
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It looks like an animation because it is.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 11:00 AM   #21372
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yes, it's all computerized, but someone has to go through and program it all.

(that's what I do for a living)
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 11:14 AM   #21373
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yes, it's all computerized, but someone has to go through and program it all.

(that's what I do for a living)
we all know, of course, that someone (like a human being lol) actually programs those things with a computer

what we are saying is that this was not the live show as it appeared on the 31st of december...unfortunately the real version wouldn't be so clean and neat...
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 12:48 PM   #21374
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The Love Parade disaster in Germany started when the crowd went into two different directions, due to overcrowding police loudspeakers told people to turn back and out of the tunnel (the only entrance and exit for 1.4 million people), whilst people were still entering at the other end. The investigation showed it wasn't panic or a stampede, but 'crowd turbulence' that led to the tragedy.


so you means that love parade victims die not by stampede but by Compression with standing stance? so they are suffocated by compression?
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 12:53 PM   #21375
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I think he means that. If the ribs get compressed then they could pierce the lungs
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:12 PM   #21376
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:14 PM   #21377
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The Shanghai Tower - The Greatest Light Show of 2015 (LIVE).
100 % FAKE.

There is NO movement from anywhere at all in the background. Lights dont blink. Traffic doesn't move. Boats dont move on the river. Clouds don't move. And look at the roads... the "traffic" has long exposure light-streaks where headlights have made lanes of light rather than moving traffic.

The Chinese are well known for this fakery. Remember the amount of faking that went on at the opening of the Beijing Olympics in 2008. They faked the light show then...they faked the fireworks display...they even faked the little girl singing.
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A stampede? Damn how can you step on people and not care?
What a stupid STUPID comment.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 01:18 PM   #21379
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