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Old June 5th, 2015, 05:13 AM   #22441
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The bridge was retrofitted and not built according to initial plan right? Also it is a... eh... bridge? Not quite the same as actual ground-level environment i.e. no easy access to nearby objects and attractions. It's perhaps better than what it was before but it is fundamentally not a problem solving solution.

I don't really get what point you are trying to make here regarding 'mixed use'? Both Lujiazui and Zhujiang CBD are all mixed-use and heavily surrounded by residential apartment towers so there isn't much difference in this respect. The difference is in planning practices and quality on the ground level and this is where the difference in liveliness and things like dining options on the street level come from in Lujiazui vs Zhujiang CBD. Have you actually been to Zhujiang New Town during the past year or so?
The bridge from Oriental Pearl to IFC has been around for years, but they extended to connect to Jin Mao and SWFC further down Century Avenue very recently. A lot of people use it as they flow inland from the waterfront viewing areas, and the bridge serves as a connection to the nearby buildings and parks. This could also be achieved on the ground as there are wide sidewalks, but the views from the bridge are a bit nicer indeed. The bridge has actually made it easier for pedestrians to reach further inland from the waterfront.

I actually don't think having street-level retail and lively streets everywhere is necessarily good urban planning. A successful city needs to have purpose - whether it be offices during the day, and a recreational area at night. Lujiazui actually achieves both quite well as the area is bursting with tourists already, so even after the offices clear out, the flow of people is still up there looking at the neon and the Bund across the river. Would having more restaurants at street level make the area lively? Not necessarily. Eating in this part of town is very expensive, and incomes in China are still relatively low, so having a nice alfresco dining experience here is not going to be economic with so many high class places inside the buildings already. Are people likely going to enjoy this in the 37C summer and the rainy season that lasts for months? Do more fast-food joints offering cheap eats enhance the urban landscape?

Zhujiang New Town serves a more local purpose, since Guangzhou doesn't get that many international tourists anyway and the views from here are nowhere as spectacular as Lujiazui. So we see lots of families and locals enjoying the park facilities. I don't recall seeing large-scale alfresco dining or restaurants even within the central axis park though. It is a very nicely landscaped park, but somewhat disconnected as it breaks up at the riverfront. The APM is a bit redundant since there is a parallel subway line 100-200m away already.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 07:45 AM   #22442
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Old June 5th, 2015, 02:00 PM   #22443
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Old June 5th, 2015, 04:07 PM   #22444
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Perfect design of the tower and super skyline, too!!!
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Old June 5th, 2015, 06:41 PM   #22445
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Old June 5th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #22446
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I prefer the postmodern Jin Mao Tower out of the three, it's clearly the most iconic-interesting supertall there and has some Chinese appeal and identity to it. It's like a glass-steel pagoda in the sky, what you'd dream of for a Chinese sci-fi city. SWFC and Shanghai Tower could be anywhere else in the world. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8885/1...090746ff_h.jpg

Anyway, when is the Shanghai Tower supposed to open and be fully in service?
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Old June 5th, 2015, 07:39 PM   #22447
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Old June 5th, 2015, 08:13 PM   #22448
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I liked swfc the most before seeing them in person. Then I realized how much height matters, ST is just so crazy impressive that it draws all the attention.
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Old June 6th, 2015, 12:22 AM   #22449
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Old June 6th, 2015, 04:08 AM   #22451
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Old June 6th, 2015, 09:20 AM   #22452
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How is the legal situation in China with drones?
A lot of the last pictures are obviously shot with drones.
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Old June 6th, 2015, 09:29 AM   #22453
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Yes Nice drone pictures. What does every one thing about Wuhan Greenland Center, in Wuhan. It will surpass this tower by only a few meters in regard to height. I am looking forward to Smith and Gills Wuhan Tower but Aesthetically I like this tower more.
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Old June 6th, 2015, 01:12 PM   #22454
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How is the legal situation in China with drones?
A lot of the last pictures are obviously shot with drones.
This is what I was wondering too. I'm taking my DJI drone to China later this year and just wonder how 'safe' it is to fly it in urban areas without getting much attention from the cops?
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Old June 6th, 2015, 01:47 PM   #22455
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Old June 7th, 2015, 11:11 AM   #22457
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That must be the worst pic ever. Are you trying to raise environmental issues or what on earth compelled you to share that with the world?
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It's just an overexposed picture.
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