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Old November 15th, 2015, 05:56 PM   #22821
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I seriously doubt that. There are already rumors of a taller project in Pudong.
Really? Do you have more details?
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Old November 15th, 2015, 06:19 PM   #22822
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Really? Do you have more details?
No, not yet. Everything is still in the early planning stages.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 06:27 PM   #22823
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Why do you constantly repeat yourself?
Because nobody else mentions it and it's important to remember that buildings are designed for the people inside them at least as much if not more than for those looking at them. This is a beautiful building to look at but the views from inside will mostly be obstructed. That's a really negative aspect of this building's design and one that aspiring architects should be mindful of. That's why I have mentioned it about three times in the past year.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 06:30 PM   #22824
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Many more people will be viewing the building from the outside than the inside. Viewing the unique structural frame can be really cool for some people. Repeating your opinion over and over again doesn't make it fact.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 06:47 PM   #22825
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Many more people will be viewing the building from the outside than the inside. Viewing the unique structural frame can be really cool for some people. Repeating your opinion over and over again doesn't make it fact.
You bring up a good point about some people enjoying seeing the structure. A certain percentage will surely enjoy that more than having a good view.

Pointing out that "repeating my opinion over and over not making it a fact" doesn't negate the fact that it is a fact.

And the fact that you're talking about it means I've accomplished my point of making people aware of it. Now I'll stop and we can all see it as pictures will soon start showing it and I won't have to waste 1,000 words.

Have a nice day.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #22826
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I seriously doubt that. There are already rumors of a taller project in Pudong.
I don't think it will be an another 600 m + tower completed in Shanghai before
2035.
We will see ...
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Old November 15th, 2015, 11:23 PM   #22827
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You can't compare this to the ESB story.
Firstly, right after the ESB was built the biggest depression of the 20th century occured.
Secondly, right after that, there was WWII, and in the years after that there was recovery.
And it was a different time, when constrcution wasn't nearly as advanced as it is now.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 11:55 PM   #22828
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although construction wasn't as advanced it was damn fast though.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 02:59 AM   #22829
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Many more people will be viewing the building from the outside than the inside. Viewing the unique structural frame can be really cool for some people. Repeating your opinion over and over again doesn't make it fact.
You guys are both assuming that the view from the inside is bad. But it is actually not. There has been photos posted here before looking through the window of Shanghai Tower through the glasses, and the view is actually very decent.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 04:44 AM   #22830
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He is assuming the view is bad, and has repeated that point incessantly over the last few years. I think that opinions vary; some people may dislike the partially obstructed view while some may feel it is enhanced by the unique double-layered facade with stunning exposed structural supports and an unobstructed view that is available anytime anyway from the 12-story high sky gardens.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 06:11 AM   #22831
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He is assuming the view is bad, and has repeated that point incessantly over the last few years. I think that opinions vary; some people may dislike the partially obstructed view while some may feel it is enhanced by the unique double-layered facade with stunning exposed structural supports and an unobstructed view that is available anytime anyway from the 12-story high sky gardens.
I'm talking about the fact that the vast majority of views from this building to the outside will be partly or significantly obstructed. If you enjoy looking out at a view that is obstructed by structural supports, then please enjoy the view.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #22832
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I'm talking about the fact that the vast majority of views from this building to the outside will be partly or significantly obstructed. If you enjoy looking out at a view that is obstructed by structural supports, then please enjoy the view.
Yes, that's true. But it's a workplace, people are supposed to focus on work, not on enjoying the views.
For enjoying the view people can go to the lobby areas where the view is less obstructed.
The lobby areas are meant as "vertical public squares" where people are supposed to meet, exchange and also enjoy the view:




Anyway, its not like the offices are in the basement. As a worker you will still have a phenomenal view even from inside the office.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 04:41 PM   #22833
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You are correct that people who work there every day will get used to the views and rarely pay attention to them after a month or two. I live 300+meters up on a mountain and the views are spectacular, but now after living there for seven years, I hardly notice unless the weather is changing. All my visitors say "WOW, look at that view!" I say "I see it every day". It is only seeing their reaction that makes me really appreciate it.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 09:13 PM   #22834
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Can you see the double layers if I didn't tell you this is from inside the Shanghai Tower? Plus, you get this very nice garden every ~15 floors to chill during breaks.



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Old November 17th, 2015, 04:51 AM   #22835
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Plus everyone will get the view not just your boss or special employees.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 08:27 AM   #22836
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Old November 17th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #22837
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Who knows. All the proposals seem to be at least 100m taller than the SWFC excepting the third render, which doesn't look to be much taller than the Jin
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Old November 17th, 2015, 12:33 PM   #22838
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Nice progress!
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Old November 19th, 2015, 04:22 AM   #22839
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You are correct that people who work there every day will get used to the views and rarely pay attention to them after a month or two. I live 300+meters up on a mountain and the views are spectacular, but now after living there for seven years, I hardly notice unless the weather is changing. All my visitors say "WOW, look at that view!" I say "I see it every day". It is only seeing their reaction that makes me really appreciate it.
What about the hotel rooms at the top? Or did they make sure the views aren't obstructed in those pay-by-the-day views?
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Old November 19th, 2015, 05:24 AM   #22840
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No one besides you cares? Pretty sure they will have no problem filling all the rooms at 5-star prices. The view is pretty damn good and you have given no proof that it is a significant obstruction from interior views. Kix posted a picture where you barely see the supports. Very lightweight and airy.
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