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Old April 2nd, 2010, 05:31 PM   #3901
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Well don't get too excited, we don't know how this will turn out yet. Renders almost always make it look better than it is. Just don't go overboard.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 10:34 PM   #3902
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Well don't get too excited, we don't know how this will turn out yet. Renders almost always make it look better than it is. Just don't go overboard.
Actually, I've seen just as many renders which proved otherwise. Shanghai IFC being the prime example.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 11:32 PM   #3903
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Amazing render.......
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 12:53 AM   #3904
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Actually, I've seen just as many renders which proved otherwise. Shanghai IFC being the prime example.
I agree, most of the time the actual building looks much better than the rendering in my opinion.
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 07:00 PM   #3905
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so the inner skin, is it circular with the rotating tri focal curve for the outer skin, or is it just a less radicalised tri focal curve. i'm trying to estimate based on the shapes of the periodic sky lobbies but can't tell for sure.
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Old April 4th, 2010, 01:11 AM   #3906
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A truly magnificent skyscraper.. great for Shanghai
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Old April 4th, 2010, 02:43 PM   #3907
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- I'm pretty sure 60,000 meters cubed is a world record for a foundation pour. I hope the number is accurate.
That is equivalent to a square based equilateral pyramid (as in Giza-style) 63 metres (207 ft) high.
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Old April 4th, 2010, 08:45 PM   #3908
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That is equivalent to a square based equilateral pyramid (as in Giza-style) 63 metres (207 ft) high.
Not quite. The big pyramid of Khufu is 230m square and was originally 146.5m high. So the volume is 230^2*146.5/3 = 2,580,000m3. The pour was 60,000m3 or a fraction 0.032 of that. So the pyramid has to shrink a factor 0.032^(1/3)=0.285 to have the same volume, which would make it 65.6m wide and 41.8m high. Still impressive, I admit.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 08:11 AM   #3909
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To put that 65.6m wide, 41.8m high pyramid in another perspective, I found it easy to compare with the WTC towers, which were 64m wide and 417m / 415m tall (roof). Such a pyramid of concrete would almost exactly match the footprint of either tower, and be almost exactly 1/10th the height, perhaps 11 floors high (out of 110). Agreed, that's *massive* for one pour.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 02:28 PM   #3910
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Old April 5th, 2010, 02:56 PM   #3911
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I agree, most of the time the actual building looks much better than the rendering in my opinion.
I agree.....the new tower in Austin is a great example.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #3912
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Amazing project indeed! I reckon it will have much more floor space than the Burj Khalifa...
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Old April 5th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #3913
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Amazing project indeed! I reckon it will have much more floor space than the Burj Khalifa...

ST will have a total of 550 000 m2 (below grade and above grade) and Burj Kalifa 464 000m2. This is the info given by Wikipedia.

The price tag for ST is US$2.2 billion and BK is US$1.5 billion. So overall, despite being shorter (i.e. not having a tall spire), ST is bigger and more expensive tower. And, in my opinion, much nicer and sophisticated.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 07:35 PM   #3914
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I think the west tower in Gz, standing at 440m has more or similar floor space to BK
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Old April 6th, 2010, 10:57 AM   #3915
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ST will have a total of 550 000 m2 (below grade and above grade) and Burj Kalifa 464 000m2. This is the info given by Wikipedia.

The price tag for ST is US$2.2 billion and BK is US$1.5 billion. So overall, despite being shorter (i.e. not having a tall spire), ST is bigger and more expensive tower. And, in my opinion, much nicer and sophisticated.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #3916
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I wonder if thay're gonna continue on with another even taller building beside the ST, and taller after that. Would be a kind of stairway to the sky, which it is already now but only with two complete steps and one under construction. That way people would always have jobs and it could be like a "little" city project. Plus,... I'd watch that.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 08:36 PM   #3917
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Have I missed something..I have not seen a picture of the foundation block after the pour .. there were some pictures of the unfinished job ..do we have such pictures after the pour was made ?
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Old April 6th, 2010, 09:02 PM   #3918
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I wonder if thay're gonna continue on with another even taller building beside the ST, and taller after that. Would be a kind of stairway to the sky, which it is already now but only with two complete steps and one under construction. That way people would always have jobs and it could be like a "little" city project. Plus,... I'd watch that.
i don't think there will be any building taller than ST in lujiazui in the near future (at least a few decades). check out 'shanghai urban planning museum' for future shanghai skylines.

there could be more super-talls rising from the ground in other CBD areas in shanghai, but it is more likely to see future buildings surpassing ST in cities such as Shenzhen, Tianjin and Chongqing.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 10:44 PM   #3919
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i don't think there will be any building taller than ST in lujiazui in the near future (at least a few decades). check out 'shanghai urban planning museum' for future shanghai skylines.

there could be more super-talls rising from the ground in other CBD areas in shanghai, but it is more likely to see future buildings surpassing ST in cities such as Shenzhen, Tianjin and Chongqing.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 10:56 PM   #3920
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i don't think there will be any building taller than ST in lujiazui in the near future (at least a few decades). check out 'shanghai urban planning museum' for future shanghai skylines.

there could be more super-talls rising from the ground in other CBD areas in shanghai, but it is more likely to see future buildings surpassing ST in cities such as Shenzhen, Tianjin and Chongqing.
considering the Wuhan 660 is a project the municipal govt is dam serious about and Zhuhai 680 is all set to be implemented considering they just invested heavily in one of the best roadway exchanges in the world in zhuhai . Zhuhai 680 is a definite possibility. Also since pingan has ran some many campaigns . i think the Pingan IFC will be 646 mt and it is already in construction . I think by 2020 if shanghai zhongxin manages to stay in top 5 tallest buildings of China it would be a great achievement
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