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Old April 14th, 2010, 02:44 AM   #3961
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The cranes appear to be at the outer edges of the core. The building itself extends to the supercolumns, the bases of which are visible at the outer edges of the picture you quoted.

Here is a quick diagram. The building is acually a circle, it is slightly distorted because the picture was taken at an angle.

What you draw is what I am trying to say. Since what you drew as cranes are outside of the core, I believe they are not tower cranes.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 02:59 AM   #3962
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What you draw is what I am trying to say. Since what you drew as cranes are outside of the core, I believe they are not tower cranes.
So tell us....what do you call the the cranes?
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Old April 14th, 2010, 03:07 AM   #3963
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What you draw is what I am trying to say. Since what you drew as cranes are outside of the core, I believe they are not tower cranes.
you seem to have a skewed definition of what a tower crane is. they do not have to rise from within the core to be a tower crane.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 03:53 AM   #3964
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the design its unique, kind like futuristic...632m , 128fl = its perfect height...
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Old April 14th, 2010, 04:03 AM   #3965
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Both of you understood very well what I meant but wanted to be **** engineers I guess... I am calling these guys tower cranes:



and so far there is no sign of these babies for this construction.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 04:12 AM   #3966
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Both of you understood very well what I meant but wanted to be **** engineers I guess... I am calling these guys tower cranes:



and so far there is no sign of these babies for this construction.
That is exactly what is going on top of those red towers they are putting up right now. As the other posters said, they are not always in the core. Many times they are completely outside the building.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 04:12 AM   #3967
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What you draw is what I am trying to say. Since what you drew as cranes are outside of the core, I believe they are not tower cranes.
Are the same cranes from India?
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:14 AM   #3968
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How I understood there are two heavy Favelle Faco's tower cranes under erection...
So, what is a specification of these cranes?
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:22 AM   #3969
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Cool.
I can't wait until this tower is completed.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #3970
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What you draw is what I am trying to say. Since what you drew as cranes are outside of the core, I believe they are not tower cranes.
Correcting you when you're wrong isn't being ****, it's educating you.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #3971
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I hope there will be buildings with shop fronts lining the streets boarding the Shanghai Tower, to give the whole area a more urban feel.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 06:19 PM   #3972
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Correcting you when you're wrong isn't being ****, it's educating you.
Educate yourself. Most of hundreds who follow this thread can follow what I am saying, the guy I was talking had no problem because I was clear. You are just trying to look smart by taking things out of context. You are not even contributing what we are discussing. Just to "educate" you (which is an impossible task ) These cranes are not tower cranes that we see on almost every skyscraper which are rising on the cores. SWFC had three of them. I think ST will have at least two of them too.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #3973
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If it stops raining before completion I might be able to make some pictures and post them here
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Old April 15th, 2010, 12:50 AM   #3974
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Educate yourself. Most of hundreds who follow this thread can follow what I am saying, the guy I was talking had no problem because I was clear. You are just trying to look smart by taking things out of context. You are not even contributing what we are discussing. Just to "educate" you (which is an impossible task ) These cranes are not tower cranes that we see on almost every skyscraper which are rising on the cores. SWFC had three of them. I think ST will have at least two of them too.
Once again, they ARE tower cranes. I'm not taking anything out of context, you are flat-out making a statement that is incorrect, and now refuse to admit your fault.

A 'tower crane' gets it's name by the pieces of steel tower sections that make up its support, not because it sits within the core of the building, making it appear as though it's in a 'tower'.

Stating that there are no tower cranes on this job because of your incorrect opinion, only creates confusion for those who are not familiar with construction methods, and frustration for those that are.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 01:03 AM   #3975
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Once again, they ARE tower cranes. I'm not taking anything out of context, you are flat-out making a statement that is incorrect, and now refuse to admit your fault.

A 'tower crane' gets it's name by the pieces of steel tower sections that make up its support, not because it sits within the core of the building, making it appear as though it's in a 'tower'.

Stating that there are no tower cranes on this job because of your incorrect opinion, only creates confusion for those who are not familiar with construction methods, and frustration for those that are.
BINGO...thanks lotec....exactly the point I was going to make. I figured if he dodged that question he didn't really have the right answer to begin with. Never heard them called anything BUT tower cranes. Doesn't make any difference if the crane is in or out of the core....still a tower crane.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 01:54 AM   #3976
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By the size of the machine deck a couple of photos back, I'd say it's a Favco Favelle 760D tower crane.. I like the way they put little wooden platforms around the base of each section on the tower to help with installation.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 02:46 AM   #3977
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You two guys have problem to understand what I am saying. This is the post I responded first. Have a look at the bold part

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The big yellow crane is there to put up the tower cranes. Based on pictures of the pour there will be 2 tower cranes inside the building.
and I responded since they are out of the core these two cannot be the tower cranes we see on almost every skyscraper which are rising on the cores.

now, get it???
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Old April 15th, 2010, 02:51 AM   #3978
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Looks like Mission Impossible here...time to 86 this one from the mix on my end.
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Old April 15th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #3979
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Very interesting bioclimatic architecture inside the tower. A big plus !
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Old April 15th, 2010, 06:56 AM   #3980
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You two guys have problem to understand what I am saying. This is the post I responded first. Have a look at the bold part

and I responded since they are out of the core these two cannot be the tower cranes we see on almost every skyscraper which are rising on the cores.

now, get it???
As mentioned by other posters above a tower crane is simply a crane that is mounted on top of a tower. The location of the crane has no bearing on this.

If you have some other definition of a tower crane other than 'the ones used on other skyscrapers' please share it. If for some reason you think a tower crane must be placed inside the core of the building, which seems to be the case, explain why you think this is the case and what would you call the other cranes also mounted on towers that are not located in the core?
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