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Old June 9th, 2010, 04:00 AM   #4321
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thats 2 cranes will raise up till more then 632m...whats a feeling that man,see panorama inside that crane when the height reach 632m later
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Old June 9th, 2010, 04:30 AM   #4322
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Hopefully these men wont be distracted by the view :p Also i can see a problem that those people will literally be inside the cloud during a stormy / foggy day.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 04:31 AM   #4323
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just like on the tokyo sky tree which seems to be in the clouds all the time.......
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Old June 9th, 2010, 04:36 AM   #4324
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Yes but i would imagine Tokyo having far more days with clear sky than Shanghai.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 01:06 PM   #4325
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Crane operators don't rely on direct eye sight most of the time, so it wouldn't be much of a problem for them. Can't say the same about the people who are supposed to monitor the lifting process and instruct the operators though.
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Old June 11th, 2010, 08:39 PM   #4326
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Could someone please repost two last updates from abbs.cn (from June 8, and June 11). I have account there, but for some reasone I don't have access to particular threads and files. I suppose the main problem is that I am not a native chinese speaker. In fact I only depend on google translate whitch for chinese is rubbish
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Old June 11th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #4327
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Old June 12th, 2010, 12:22 AM   #4328
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you have to repost it to some other server becouse we (at least I) can't see it.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 01:40 AM   #4329
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That looks like a waffle-slab form.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 02:42 AM   #4330
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strange, the big steel beams don't seem to be the same on each side.
could be because of the cranes, or they might not have finished putting in all the steel yet.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 02:44 AM   #4331
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The tower doesn't have a straight forward design so the tensions and loads are not symmetrically distributed.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 04:20 AM   #4332
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Actually, under the skin, building should be symmetrical.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 05:33 AM   #4333
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I was more thinking that it is symmetric through the two lines through the middle of the core parallel to the sides of the core, but if you rotate the core 90 degrees it isn't the same.
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Old June 12th, 2010, 08:12 AM   #4334
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The tower doesn't have a straight forward design so the tensions and loads are not symmetrically distributed.
The core is symmetrical, they haven't finished the steelwork yet.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 10:30 AM   #4335
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That looks like a waffle-slab form.
Indeed, I also don't know this technique. Is it a form in which beams are integrated or can anyone explain it further?
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Old June 13th, 2010, 02:14 PM   #4336
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The core is symmetrical, they haven't finished the steelwork yet.
I was referring to the effect on the load-bearing columns, not the core itself.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 03:36 PM   #4337
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They are symetric too. There is no asymetric in this tower imo. Even clading layer. Its not asymetric, its just twisted.

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Old June 13th, 2010, 11:38 PM   #4338
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Regardless, I assume the core is carrying the load, not the outer layer / cladding.
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Old June 13th, 2010, 11:43 PM   #4339
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Not only the core. Supercolumns will do big part of the job as well. But anyway, what was your point saying the obvious about cladding? Because I think i missed something..
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Old June 14th, 2010, 12:28 AM   #4340
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They are symetric too. There is no asymetric in this tower imo. Even clading layer. Its not asymetric, its just twisted.
I don't think you understand what symmetry is.
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