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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #4421
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thanks for the diagram, just makes you realise how amazing this building is......
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Old June 20th, 2010, 02:15 PM   #4422
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Reposted those that didn't shown up:










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Old June 20th, 2010, 04:06 PM   #4423
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I still couldn't see the picture.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 07:03 PM   #4424
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Then either its something with youre system, or you are in China cause imageshack is blocked there.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:11 PM   #4425
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I would say they can pour even two levels more before adding new supercolumns.
It's really good thing because installation of supercolumns take a lot of time, and since it will be probably only two layers of supercolumns in the hole, the tower should rise out of the hole relatively fast.
Hi Pat.
Looks like you may be correct - they may do 2 pours before adding the next section of the supercolumns.
They've gotta be ready to pour very soon.

Hi Moyan.
Nice post - please post all you have.

The section drawing is the first I've seen.
By the drawing it looks to me like the raft will be the floor of level B5. Levels B4 and B5 are short with B2 and B3 taller and B1 the tallest.

Thing is - the forms going up right now look to be the floor for level B3 which means the raft would be the floor for B4. I think the section drawing may be deceiving because if there will be 2 levels below the forms they would both be too short in height to be useable IMO and one would think they would have formed and poured the floor for B4 before they formed the floor for B3 they are working on now.
Another point is the concrete retaining rings around the hole. There was talk a while ago they were poured with no regard to the lower levels. When compared to the section drawing they look to be right where the levels will be.
Here is a labelled shot (from Jayman IIRC) showing what I mean.



In summary I think there will be 4 lower levels rather than 5.
Hopefully some drawings will surface to confirm - barring that time will tell.

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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #4426
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Hmm I think I don't get your reasoning, Fury. We can be quite sure that height of the current section of supercolumns will inlcude 3 levels with floor on top for 4th level, then you point on the last photo that above current supercolumns there will be additional two levels. So that gives me planned 5 levels. Did I missed something?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:42 AM   #4427
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nice up date picture....
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Old June 21st, 2010, 05:24 PM   #4428
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 06:15 AM   #4429
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Hmm I think I don't get your reasoning, Fury. We can be quite sure that height of the current section of supercolumns will inlcude 3 levels with floor on top for 4th level, then you point on the last photo that above current supercolumns there will be additional two levels. So that gives me planned 5 levels. Did I missed something?
Hi Pat.
I see what your saying now. Your probably correct.
The supercolumns look to have connections for 3 levels that are the same height. Above that the section drawing looks to have 2 more above that, each much taller.

That would make 5 lower levels if they pour at each of those apparent connections and then follow the drawing.

We shall see.
First they have to pour this first level above the raft.

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Old June 22nd, 2010, 09:06 AM   #4430
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The third diagram from the top shows a cross-sectional view of the tower. The drawing shows that the several floors deep foundation is much wider than the actual tower. In the shots of the building site however, I see that the foundation is only as wide, or slightly wider than the tower.

Or am I getting something wrong here?
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 12:22 PM   #4431
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Last moments before pouring..

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Old June 22nd, 2010, 12:24 PM   #4432
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For those speaking Chinese out there...wouldn't "中心" translate into "Center" rather than "Tower"? Can it be used for "tower", or did they simply decide to have a different name in English? If so, why?
They had to change it because there's already a Shanghai Centre in Jing'an
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 06:28 PM   #4433
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 07:08 PM   #4434
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I took some photos last week from the lobby of the Hyatt in the Jin Mao Tower, but my account I just created in this forum does not allow me to post attachments here. Hope to get this fixed soon. But photos are not spectacular. Nevertheless, if you ever are in Shanghai, the Hyatt Lobby is a good place to take pictures of the construction site. There is not any access restriction or costs to get there and the staff leaves you alone if you walk to the windows to take some pictures.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 07:12 PM   #4435
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I took some photos last week from the lobby of the Hyatt in the Jin Mao Tower, but my account I just created in this forum does not allow me to post attachments here. Hope to get this fixed soon. But photos are not spectacular. Nevertheless, if you ever are in Shanghai, the Hyatt Lobby is a good place to take pictures of the construction site. There is not any access restriction or costs to get there and the staff leaves you alone if you walk to the windows to take some pictures.
you could upload them on imageshack or a different picture upload site and post them here with: [img*] the url of your photo [/img*] <= without the stars
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 07:13 PM   #4436
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No need to post attachments, you can enter the IMG code in your reply after you upload them at to a host (Tinypic, Flickr etc.). Good luck!
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 07:22 PM   #4437
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ok, another try (and sorry for the limited picture quality)
[IMG]http://i50.************/qzf280.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i46.************/2mdsc51.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i45.************/292pfki.jpg[/IMG]
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 08:41 PM   #4438
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You can't imagine how we appreciate even such blurry shots from that lobby in Jin Mao. Hope you haven't been there just on trip, and will provide as with more pics from that spot
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 08:44 PM   #4439
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You can't imagine how we appreciate even such blurry shots from that lobby in Jin Mao. Hope you haven't been there just on trip, and will provide as with more pics from that spot
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 09:25 PM   #4440
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Was just a trip, back in good old europe...I believe the lack of pictures is also due to the fact that the obvious spots to take pictures do not work, i.e. you can only see a small part of the construction site from top of the Shanghai World Financial Center.
But I have a friend in Shanghai and hope I can convince him to at least give us some updates once per week or so. As soon as this is above ground level, I am sure that we will be flooded with pictures that people will take from the street.

Maybe just two other points I realised when being in Shangai:
1) There is a model of the tower in the Center for Urban Planning, not sure if this can be well seen in this picture, but at least in the model the tower is fully "straight" and only the skin asymetric, so this model has completely different "character"
2) As much as I love this project, I am so sorry for the World Financial Center. Especially from the other side of the river, the SWFC is so dominant in the skyline and looks so massive. One cannot capture that in a picture. It will loose this and now with three next to each other, at least from a distance I don't think they will look as iconic as the SWFC does
[IMG]http://i49.************/abrqyr.jpg[/IMG]
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